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Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]
What is the point on posting on forums then if not exchange of arguments?
Iron, sometimes you can see a discussion with a certain person on a certain topic is rather pointless.
Nothing complicated about that, women are free to vote for anyone be it a woman be it a man.
I think I partly explained already why I think it's not so simple.
Now you are being sexist, seen the men as fit better for physical work..
Well, they are better fit for physical work because they have different physique than women. It does matter in certain jobs just like in sports. It doesn't mean that women can't do physical work. But they can't grow as much muscles as men. I suppose there are some big, strong women who would be able to perform such work as done usually by men like, I don't know, at construction sites - if yes, then by all means (after all, women in Russia were building railroads and such).
If they'll get hired, that is.
My classmate chose a sculpting specialization when she got to a Fine Art School. School's director was trying to persuade her out of it - he claimed that being a girl she won't manage, it's a work in stone and wood, she wouldn't have the strength to work with a chisel. But she was stubborn and chose the sculpting specialization anyway. There were all boys in the group and they were giving her some hard time, they even gave her once for Saint Nicholas Day a bag full of condoms. She had tears in her eyes.
However, eventually, she was one of the best and most talented sculptors in that group.
Men have much different physique than women, but men's and women's brains aren't that different to claim that they can't do the same jobs (jobs that involve brains), in my opinion. That was my point.
To answer your point - brain is distributed evenly in both sexes but both genders differ in psyche and priorities and the way they approach problems.
Psyche and priorities can be influenced by society, the way people are brought up, etc. Especially priorities. And what do you mean by approaching problems?
You didn't answer my question - for which jobs women aren't good enough and why?
In my opinion fewer women than men make are a good material to be a boss.
All my direct bosses in all my jobs were women (and those weren't "meant for women" jobs). In one of my jobs also a boss over my female boss was a woman. Only above that level was when the men were becoming the bosses. Why? I have no idea. Could you explain it to me, perhaps?
Those who do are in minority and hence their problem - that all but that would be a natural selection.
What if Polish parents and the society would encourage women to reach higher positions, to believe in themselves and help men understand that "women don't make worse bosses by default" and women would be given a chance? Do you think that "natural selection" would look in a different way then?
Ah so women vote on men and all this big hallo feminists are making is to brainwash them into voting on women just because they are women.
No.
They "brainwash" them so they wouldn't think that a man is a better candidate
only because he's a man. I hope you understand that?
Pretty name just to say - hey we know better and you are stupid slave to a convention - our convention is better cause it is #(befits us few).
Iron, there was a time when the convention was that a woman couldn't vote, work in most of jobs and couldn't attend a university. When women writers had to have male name pseudonyms in order to get published and so people would buy and read their books.
For you, it seems, the right convention is - a woman makes a worse boss than a man. Does she also make a worse politician?
Sure another case when you are telling to people that their thinking is wrong and not-modern and they should listen to you. Why?/ just because.
In that case if they do not their ass from their elbow why do they have the right to vote?Shouldn't that be restricted to only those citizens who know what they are doing not some morons. The problem is who is going decide who are those wise people.
I'm not sure what you're talking about, you clearly misunderstood me.
so far its all about women so how is that not dividing.
lol
Iron, it's about women because it's the women who still are in need of emancipation around the world.
LOL, the "whining about discrimination" is the tool feminists constantly use.
I used this phrase on purpose - because some men call demanding equal rights for women "whining about discrimination" :)
When some men retort that quotas are unjust you accuse them of complaining.
Me? No, I don't.
There can be no comparison about whining. The thousands of feminist books, articles, programs, etc have been an avalanche of whining compared to any comments men (and good women) have made about equality.
Zimmy, relax, I was just kidding :)))
The use of ":) ;)" was the indication that it was a joke.
I know what that issue is; I run into it with feminists all the time. Feminists don't want to hear anything that contradicts their Pavlovian feminist beliefs. It's 'difficult' hearing and seeing something which contradicts them. Feminists don't give a hoot about male concerns. It's all about them so viewing something which more fully explains real circumstances is difficult.
"Amazing how much you 'feel' you know about me, Do tell me more about myself. Not only are you judging emotionally, but you 'assume' so much without evidence. (feelings are not evidence)"
:)
I am open to arguments and I try not to be fixed in my views. Why don't you wait until I'll write what are my issues with that film, what I agree with and what I disagree with and then we can discuss. You've attacked me even before I've managed to voice my opinion lol
Relax, and turn off that attacking mode a bit, with your attitude you're pushing people into defensive I suspect.
You have to make up your mind what you want to do here - you either want to let out your anger or convince someone. I think to do the latter it would be better to calm down a bit :)
I'll answer all the rest later, probably I'll have to do it in parts over a few days, so be patient, please :P
What i dont understand is why feminists discriminate their sex by saying that housework is bad
If it's not so bad then why men don't want to do it? :D
and it is better to work in tesco 10 hrs a day with a nappy bcayse if ull take a break to the rest room then the boss will shout at u.
Housework is much better than going to work!!!
Then why men don't stay home and take care of the housework and kids?
You get your own money when you work. When you have your own money you aren't that dependent on your husband and when he starts drinking and beating the crap out of you you can take the kids and move out and make some life for yourself.
A job gives confidence, independence and an opportunity to meet people.
Besides, I can imagine it sucks when you have to ask your husband for money ;P
You watch some of what korwin mikke says.. Some of the stuff he says actually make a lot of sense!
lol
