Paulina
16 Jan 2014
Paulina
16 Jan 2014
Language / Extremely Hard - Polish the hardest language to learn [226]
Btw, when I write about my RP, I don't mean that it's perfect British RP. I was told by a teacher once that my pronunciation is really good, that I sound like the British queen lol (I was watching a lot of BBC World those days) After this I decided to change it, because I didn't want to sound ridiculous and too posh or sth. So I watered it down.
What I mean is that when I say "furthermore", "perfect", "therefore", etc. I say it in the British way, not American way - I'm sure you know what I mean :)
But you live in the US, right? Why did you decide to learn Polish (if you don't mind me asking)?
Btw, when I write about my RP, I don't mean that it's perfect British RP. I was told by a teacher once that my pronunciation is really good, that I sound like the British queen lol (I was watching a lot of BBC World those days) After this I decided to change it, because I didn't want to sound ridiculous and too posh or sth. So I watered it down.
What I mean is that when I say "furthermore", "perfect", "therefore", etc. I say it in the British way, not American way - I'm sure you know what I mean :)
We ain't crazy about Polish aspects either, but, hey, when in Rome......
But you live in the US, right? Why did you decide to learn Polish (if you don't mind me asking)?
Paulina
15 Jan 2014
Life / Do Poles have a problem understanding American English? [76]
It seems everyone does that, except from you. Poles, for example, are often very self-critical about their English to the point of being ashamed to speak it. So, again, I don't understand what's your problem.
I haven't wrote that someone who isn't immersed in foreign languages doesn't want to speak them well.
I just have a problem with your attitude.
The sooner others freely admit to their English faults as such, the sooner I'll "relax", as you put it.
It seems everyone does that, except from you. Poles, for example, are often very self-critical about their English to the point of being ashamed to speak it. So, again, I don't understand what's your problem.
By the way, one needn't be "immersed in" foreign languages to want to speak them well.
I haven't wrote that someone who isn't immersed in foreign languages doesn't want to speak them well.
I just have a problem with your attitude.
Paulina
15 Jan 2014
Language / Extremely Hard - Polish the hardest language to learn [226]
RP, of course. That's what I was taught at school.
I know I make mistakes, grammar has been always my Achilles' heel whenever I've studied a foreign language, I have serious problems with English Tenses, for example. I hate them lol :)
Just curious as to whether or not your 'British' reflects RP (Received Pronunciation, i.e. the English of Her Majesty's) or that of the rank and file Londoner? Or is Aussie in these days?
RP, of course. That's what I was taught at school.
Your English isn't bad, by the way! Oh, there are few sentence structure thingies, but nothing that reading your posts a few times won't cure:-)
I know I make mistakes, grammar has been always my Achilles' heel whenever I've studied a foreign language, I have serious problems with English Tenses, for example. I hate them lol :)
Paulina
15 Jan 2014
Life / Do Poles have a problem understanding American English? [76]
Wlodzimierz, I don't understand what's your problem.
For people who aren't immersed in the foreign language by living in a foreign country watching films (or foreign TV in general) is the only way to listen to some everyday language, to practice listening comprehension, enrich their vocabulary in a fun way.
I'm sorry, Wlodzimierz, but you rant and rant all the time how English learners do everything wrong. It's irritating and it makes you look like you're obsessed. Relax.
Wlodzimierz, I don't understand what's your problem.
For people who aren't immersed in the foreign language by living in a foreign country watching films (or foreign TV in general) is the only way to listen to some everyday language, to practice listening comprehension, enrich their vocabulary in a fun way.
I'm sorry, Wlodzimierz, but you rant and rant all the time how English learners do everything wrong. It's irritating and it makes you look like you're obsessed. Relax.
Paulina
15 Jan 2014
Language / Extremely Hard - Polish the hardest language to learn [226]
Wlodzimierz, most Polish people have an accent, of course. Sometimes it can hurt your ears :) Some people, who are good at languages, don't have a Polish accent and if those people live in the UK (like my friend) they sound like British people.
However, I disagree with the "w=v" part.
I think I'd notice if most Poles would speak English like Count Dracula ;) Maybe some tiny minority. I even doubt that most Russians speak that way (although I don't really know).
I must admit that I don't really trust your judgment, I hope you don't feel offended :P
I'd prefer if some other native speakers wrote something on this subject. I'm sure there's plenty of English teachers here.
What are your observations, guys? Do Poles say "v" instead of "w"?
No, I wasn't lol This "w=ł" rule is easy to remember, and you hear "what" all the time in the movies.
First of all, I'm not a liar, thank you very much.
Maybe one day I'll buy some kind of microphone, record myslef and send it to you, if you don't believe me that I don't have a particular Polish accent :)
And I don't have an American accent. I think my English is pretty much accentless, although I do tend to pronounce some words in a British way and other in a American way, so it's a bit of a mess :))
Wlodzimierz, most Polish people have an accent, of course. Sometimes it can hurt your ears :) Some people, who are good at languages, don't have a Polish accent and if those people live in the UK (like my friend) they sound like British people.
However, I disagree with the "w=v" part.
I think I'd notice if most Poles would speak English like Count Dracula ;) Maybe some tiny minority. I even doubt that most Russians speak that way (although I don't really know).
I must admit that I don't really trust your judgment, I hope you don't feel offended :P
I'd prefer if some other native speakers wrote something on this subject. I'm sure there's plenty of English teachers here.
What are your observations, guys? Do Poles say "v" instead of "w"?
Perhaps you too once were guilty of such.
No, I wasn't lol This "w=ł" rule is easy to remember, and you hear "what" all the time in the movies.
First of all, I'm not a liar, thank you very much.
Maybe one day I'll buy some kind of microphone, record myslef and send it to you, if you don't believe me that I don't have a particular Polish accent :)
And I don't have an American accent. I think my English is pretty much accentless, although I do tend to pronounce some words in a British way and other in a American way, so it's a bit of a mess :))
Paulina
15 Jan 2014
Language / Extremely Hard - Polish the hardest language to learn [226]
Wlodzimierz, first of all, we're not talking about me, but about Polish people and how they pronounce "w" in English.
But if you want to talk about me, then I have "a good ear" in general (for music) and for languages too and pronunciation is usually my favourite part when studying languages :)
I can tell when someone speaks with an accent and I can hear when someone says "v" instead of "w", that's really not a big deal :)
And if you're curious, I don't speak with a Polish accent. You probably could tell that I'm neither British nor American, judging by my pronunciation, or that I'm not a native speaker, because sometimes I may mispronounce usually a word I don't know, but I doubt you could tell where I'm from.
So, people who aren't native speakers of English can also tell whether someone is speaking with an accent when using English or not. You don't have to be a native speaker of English to do that :)
Well, so I'm asking what this "(miss-)pronoucning" of "w" looked like exactly?
Was it like ""Vere is my vife, I vant her to have a vok vith me in de park"? :)
Every single "w" was mispronounced?
What are you talking about? What Anglophone dialect comedy?
Wlodzimierz, first of all, we're not talking about me, but about Polish people and how they pronounce "w" in English.
But if you want to talk about me, then I have "a good ear" in general (for music) and for languages too and pronunciation is usually my favourite part when studying languages :)
I can tell when someone speaks with an accent and I can hear when someone says "v" instead of "w", that's really not a big deal :)
And if you're curious, I don't speak with a Polish accent. You probably could tell that I'm neither British nor American, judging by my pronunciation, or that I'm not a native speaker, because sometimes I may mispronounce usually a word I don't know, but I doubt you could tell where I'm from.
So, people who aren't native speakers of English can also tell whether someone is speaking with an accent when using English or not. You don't have to be a native speaker of English to do that :)
You have only to trust the ears of a foreigner who's heard Poles (miss-)pronoucning English for years.
Well, so I'm asking what this "(miss-)pronoucning" of "w" looked like exactly?
Was it like ""Vere is my vife, I vant her to have a vok vith me in de park"? :)
Every single "w" was mispronounced?
Part of Anglophone dialect comedy concerns Poles confusing the "W" of "will" with the "V" of "vote etc....
What are you talking about? What Anglophone dialect comedy?
Paulina
15 Jan 2014
UK, Ireland / Polish vs Irish stereotypes from a Polish girl in Ireland [22]
She seems like a nice and objective person and since I've never been to Ireland I found her observations interesting (and funny because of the way she's talking about it) :) It isn't some in depth analysis but since it's usually the expats in Poland sharing their observations on this forum, I thought I'll post it:
youtube.com/watch?v=nmfJX8q8j0o
Btw, she has a Polish accent, but it sounds like she's getting an Irish one too, don't you think? lol :)
She seems like a nice and objective person and since I've never been to Ireland I found her observations interesting (and funny because of the way she's talking about it) :) It isn't some in depth analysis but since it's usually the expats in Poland sharing their observations on this forum, I thought I'll post it:
youtube.com/watch?v=nmfJX8q8j0o
Btw, she has a Polish accent, but it sounds like she's getting an Irish one too, don't you think? lol :)
Paulina
14 Jan 2014
Language / Extremely Hard - Polish the hardest language to learn [226]
OK, so you mean when someone sees "what" but says "vot" because "w" in Polish is "v", yes? ;)
Well, Wlodzimierz, don't tell me that plenty of Polish people say sth like this: "Vere is my vife, I vant her to have a vok vith me in de park" :))
Especially young people - I don't buy that ;)
Yeah, I agree with that. That would rarely happen, if at all.
More simply put, you SEE the letter, but you instinctively pronounce the sound or grapheme "phonetically", i.e. as you THINK the sound(s) should be spoken because you still hear them in your native tongue. This is what is meant by having a 'foreign accent':-)
OK, so you mean when someone sees "what" but says "vot" because "w" in Polish is "v", yes? ;)
Well, Wlodzimierz, don't tell me that plenty of Polish people say sth like this: "Vere is my vife, I vant her to have a vok vith me in de park" :))
Especially young people - I don't buy that ;)
Some people might not be sure of the fact that "w" is always pronaunced as "ł" but absolutely no Pole would confuse it in the word "what" because it's very basic word.
Yeah, I agree with that. That would rarely happen, if at all.
Paulina
14 Jan 2014
Language / Extremely Hard - Polish the hardest language to learn [226]
Well, I don't think I have... Maybe I simply wasn't paying too much attention to this, but that's one of the things that helps me tell whether someone who's speaking English with an accent is Polish or Russian - this Russian "vot do you vont" :)
To be honest, I don't understand what you're talking about ;)
I've heard Poles frequently confuse the "w" sound for a "v"
Well, I don't think I have... Maybe I simply wasn't paying too much attention to this, but that's one of the things that helps me tell whether someone who's speaking English with an accent is Polish or Russian - this Russian "vot do you vont" :)
To be honest, I don't understand what you're talking about ;)
Paulina
14 Jan 2014
Language / Extremely Hard - Polish the hardest language to learn [226]
Wlodzimierz, I'm not sure what you mean, but I think what Wulkan meant was that English "w" is pronounced like Polish "ł".
Russians don't have "ł" sound, only soft "l". Germans don't have "ł" at all, I guess.
So when you hear, for example, an American actor or actress, let's say, talking with what he or she thinks is a "Polish accent" he or she most often sounds like a Russian talking English, saying this "vot".
From my experience Poles say "łot", not "vot".
Wlodzimierz, I'm not sure what you mean, but I think what Wulkan meant was that English "w" is pronounced like Polish "ł".
Russians don't have "ł" sound, only soft "l". Germans don't have "ł" at all, I guess.
So when you hear, for example, an American actor or actress, let's say, talking with what he or she thinks is a "Polish accent" he or she most often sounds like a Russian talking English, saying this "vot".
From my experience Poles say "łot", not "vot".
Paulina
12 Jan 2014
Love / Are Polish men handsome to you? [182]
Total bull$hit lol
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about o_O
Noticed that polish women never say "I love you" "thank you", "please" or absolutely never say "sorry" too people within their family.
Total bull$hit lol
In contrast I find polish lady tend to put on an act totally removed from their true self.
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about o_O
Paulina
12 Jan 2014
Life / Do Poles have a problem understanding American English? [76]
OK, that's evil... lol
I guess it's more a dialect than an accent?
OK, that's evil... lol
I guess it's more a dialect than an accent?
Paulina
12 Jan 2014
Life / Do Poles have a problem understanding American English? [76]
Yes, for example, I have difficulties with understanding the Cajun accent.
I've been trained to use British English too since high school but that was the British queen's English (I was even told by one teacher at one point that I talk like her lol). But that's not how normal people talk in the UK, apparently. So it's so much easier for me to understand American English.
And Monitor is right - it's thanks to the American films on Polish TV.
Yes, me too. But I guess it depends how often you hear it. If you hear it often enough you learn to understand it, I think.
No, Americans usually speak more slowly and clearly, than the British, for example.
Not always, though - I remember watching "Gilmore Girls" in original and Lorelai and Rory could speak really fast when they were talking with each other and throwing some cultural references in and sometimes I had problems with understanding them.
So, who knows, maybe you're one of such fast talkers :)
Yes, for example, I have difficulties with understanding the Cajun accent.
I've been trained to use British English too since high school but that was the British queen's English (I was even told by one teacher at one point that I talk like her lol). But that's not how normal people talk in the UK, apparently. So it's so much easier for me to understand American English.
And Monitor is right - it's thanks to the American films on Polish TV.
I quite often find it difficult to understand foreign, non-English speakers speaking English if they speak with their own, (too) national accent.
Yes, me too. But I guess it depends how often you hear it. If you hear it often enough you learn to understand it, I think.
Specifically, do they think Americans speak too fast?
No, Americans usually speak more slowly and clearly, than the British, for example.
Not always, though - I remember watching "Gilmore Girls" in original and Lorelai and Rory could speak really fast when they were talking with each other and throwing some cultural references in and sometimes I had problems with understanding them.
So, who knows, maybe you're one of such fast talkers :)
Paulina
9 Jan 2014
Love / Questions about Polish Men - flirting, cheating, liking? [44]
I don't understand... If he has a girlfriend/partner, then it means he isn't single. I thought the term "single" is used in English both for people who are not married and don't have a bf or gf? Because that's the way it's used in Poland...
Just to be clear though, the person I am talking about is single but has a girlfriend/partner
I don't understand... If he has a girlfriend/partner, then it means he isn't single. I thought the term "single" is used in English both for people who are not married and don't have a bf or gf? Because that's the way it's used in Poland...
Paulina
9 Jan 2014
Love / Questions about Polish Men - flirting, cheating, liking? [44]
Oh, but that would mean that our dear expats from this forum are most probably cheated on by their Polish wives :))
I see foreigners attract a certain type of Polish women lol (gold diggers, for example)
OK, I have enough of this.
Listen, people, my mum worked with British men and Japanese men here in Poland (only men, they didn't send any women).
And she was telling me stuff, obviously.
British men, although married and with kids, were cheating on their British wives with Polish women. Some even divorced their wives and married those Polish girls. I've even studied with one of those girls! (eewww...)
And Japanese men... woah... Even the British men were telling me how they were cheating on their wives (and those British guys had the nerve to ask me not to tell my mum about this lol).
Because all men are the same? lol
(just kidding)
McDouche, I hate to burst your bubble but I had a look at Polish and British surveys on infidelity and the figures are similar. As probably in many other countries. I've read American men are reluctant to cheat because divorce in your country is costly lol, but still:
About Poland:
As for Polish women, I can tell you that, no, they don't have some kind of "different values". Cheating is a big "no no", not only among religious women but also among completely anticlerical ones. Of course not for everyone, I knew one girl who flirted with other guy, although she had a bf. I don't know about men, I'm not a part of their inner circle but I haven't noticed any flirting among married people at work. Only among singles. But maybe that's because I live apparently in one of the most faithful regions of Poland lol (according to the survey, at least). The only thing I know (but only from gossips at work) is that men at higher positions were sometimes using "the services" of call girls in the evenings (working late hours, huh, guys... yeah lol).
I don't know about the men, but it's common for Polish women to cheat.
Oh, but that would mean that our dear expats from this forum are most probably cheated on by their Polish wives :))
I have friends who dated Polish women and some of them have also reported the same thing happening.
I see foreigners attract a certain type of Polish women lol (gold diggers, for example)
I think that there is definitely different values here.
OK, I have enough of this.
Listen, people, my mum worked with British men and Japanese men here in Poland (only men, they didn't send any women).
And she was telling me stuff, obviously.
British men, although married and with kids, were cheating on their British wives with Polish women. Some even divorced their wives and married those Polish girls. I've even studied with one of those girls! (eewww...)
And Japanese men... woah... Even the British men were telling me how they were cheating on their wives (and those British guys had the nerve to ask me not to tell my mum about this lol).
If this is based on revenge, then why cheat on non-Polish men?
Because all men are the same? lol
(just kidding)
McDouche, I hate to burst your bubble but I had a look at Polish and British surveys on infidelity and the figures are similar. As probably in many other countries. I've read American men are reluctant to cheat because divorce in your country is costly lol, but still:
More than half of Americans - 54% - know someone who has an unfaithful spouse, according to a nationwide USA TODAY/Gallup Poll of 1,025 adults.
surveys in the UK and the U.S. suggest that between 25 and 70 per cent of women - and 40 and 80 per cent of men - have engaged in at least one extramarital sexual encounter.
About Poland:
As for Polish women, I can tell you that, no, they don't have some kind of "different values". Cheating is a big "no no", not only among religious women but also among completely anticlerical ones. Of course not for everyone, I knew one girl who flirted with other guy, although she had a bf. I don't know about men, I'm not a part of their inner circle but I haven't noticed any flirting among married people at work. Only among singles. But maybe that's because I live apparently in one of the most faithful regions of Poland lol (according to the survey, at least). The only thing I know (but only from gossips at work) is that men at higher positions were sometimes using "the services" of call girls in the evenings (working late hours, huh, guys... yeah lol).
Paulina
5 Jan 2014
Love / Polish cities with most single young women [11]
Plenty of people are moving to Warsaw, because jobs are there and higher wages. People go there to study at the university (hence so many young women). It's the capital and the biggest Polish city.
Those single women are often well educated and successful. So I guess they want career first and children later.
Stop the bull$hit, szczecinianin. The world doesn't revolve around me and you know it lol (and I do click on links).
You should always give the source of your information on your blog if there's a link available. That's the right and honest thing to do.
And why "singles" on your blog and only "women" in the title of this thread on PF?
maybe these ladies want to experience their own "Sex and the city" ;)
Plenty of people are moving to Warsaw, because jobs are there and higher wages. People go there to study at the university (hence so many young women). It's the capital and the biggest Polish city.
Those single women are often well educated and successful. So I guess they want career first and children later.
I did think of posting a link here for your benefit. Then I remembered that you don't click on them.
Stop the bull$hit, szczecinianin. The world doesn't revolve around me and you know it lol (and I do click on links).
You should always give the source of your information on your blog if there's a link available. That's the right and honest thing to do.
And why "singles" on your blog and only "women" in the title of this thread on PF?
Paulina
4 Jan 2014
Love / Polish cities with most single young women [11]
Szczecinianin, I think you should be giving links in the posts on your blog to articles from which you're taking the information given in those posts.
And why only "women" in your thread title? What about men?
Szczecinianin, I think you should be giving links in the posts on your blog to articles from which you're taking the information given in those posts.
And why only "women" in your thread title? What about men?
Paulina
3 Jan 2014
Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]
lol
No, I don't.
First of all, I meant - at work. In all the places where I worked there were no "kurwa's" flying around, at least not in my presence, I have to disappoint you. There was basically no "heavy" swearing, and certainly no "kurwa" used as an adjective.
Well then, you clearly hang out with the wrong crowd :)
Noone in my family, among friends and acquaintances does that. I'm serious - noone.
Sure there are the "kurwa boys", I can hear them sometimes in the street, and "kurwa" is used in Poland as "f*ck" in English, but I've met plenty of Poles who are not solicitors and don't use it as an adjective frequently.
+1
You obviously have a hearing problem or you belong to the group who use it every second word; so you don't recognise when you hear it.
lol
No, I don't.
First of all, I meant - at work. In all the places where I worked there were no "kurwa's" flying around, at least not in my presence, I have to disappoint you. There was basically no "heavy" swearing, and certainly no "kurwa" used as an adjective.
I've yet to meet a Pole, other than solicitors, who doesn't use it as an adjective frequently.
Well then, you clearly hang out with the wrong crowd :)
Noone in my family, among friends and acquaintances does that. I'm serious - noone.
Sure there are the "kurwa boys", I can hear them sometimes in the street, and "kurwa" is used in Poland as "f*ck" in English, but I've met plenty of Poles who are not solicitors and don't use it as an adjective frequently.
I have met some Polish people who don't say 'kurwa' all the time, as well as English people who aren't constantly using the word ******'.
+1
Paulina
2 Jan 2014
Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]
Yes, I have.
I've been to France, Germany, Italy, Austria and Slovakia.
I've been yelled at a public place only once in my life - in Austria by an Austrian woman.
My experience is completely the opposite o_O
I don't know, maybe that's because men don't swear in front of women.
Have you ever been outside Poland?
Yes, I have.
I've been to France, Germany, Italy, Austria and Slovakia.
I've been yelled at a public place only once in my life - in Austria by an Austrian woman.
I was astonished by how much young adults depend on the word " kurwa" to express themselves on any subject
My experience is completely the opposite o_O
I don't know, maybe that's because men don't swear in front of women.
Paulina
31 Dec 2013
Life / Do you think that Polish people are rude? [951]
Wlodzimierz isn't Polish.
I've never been yelled at by people in public places in Poland.
xD
Poor Szczerbaty :)
In what town/city do you live?
lol
Well, it does look like a joke to me :)
+1 ;)
I rest my case, even here people are rude.
Wlodzimierz isn't Polish.
Yes I agree that if you went to any country, you'd find rude people, but I have never been able to shake the number of times I was yelled at by people in public places in Poland.
I've never been yelled at by people in public places in Poland.
The woman at some other urzad was absolutely beside herself with rage every time I went in there.
xD
Poor Szczerbaty :)
In what town/city do you live?
I spoke to my mate yesterday to be told 'I will get you, the photographs were very bad' I said 'really', he replied 'yes, very very bad'. You did not take enough pictures of the [his] kids.'
lol
Well, it does look like a joke to me :)
I'd tell him that I didn't volunteer to take the pictures, or, I'll send you a bill, and laugh it off.
+1 ;)
Paulina
14 Nov 2013
Life / What's the best Polish radio station? [36]
You mean Trójka? This radio channel is a part of Polskie Radio (Poland's national publicly funded radio). It has a long history, unlike the commercial radio stations (there's a long article about Trójka on Polish Wikipedia, if you're interested).
today I discovered a Polish radio and have been listening to it most of the day.
You mean Trójka? This radio channel is a part of Polskie Radio (Poland's national publicly funded radio). It has a long history, unlike the commercial radio stations (there's a long article about Trójka on Polish Wikipedia, if you're interested).
Paulina
11 Nov 2013
Food / Polish Christmas Eve Dinner recipes [84]
I associate mazurki more with Easter than Christmas, but there's usually something with poppy-seed on Christmas Eve supper so why not (although I'm not a big fan of poppy-seed tbh, but that's me).
They're called faworki in my region and yesssss, I worship them (at least those made by my grandma ;d)!!! xD <3 Niebo w gębie :D
I recommend adding jelly cubes to the cream (for example strawberry or cherry flavoured) :)
I've never tasted such a mix, so I don't know whether they are going to be good or not :)
I wouldn't say they're difficult to make, you can check how they're made on Youtube:
Kutia is more an Eastern thing, I guess (Ukrainian, Russian, etc.), but it is eaten in some regions of Poland. I don't think I've ever eaten it and it doesn't sound too encouraging, tbh :P If you want to make it with wheat grains then you'll have to play Cinderella and peel every grain seperately, from what I've read ;O
Basically, dishes vary from region to region, from family to family.
There are supposed to be 12 dishes and usually there have to be some dishes that contain poppy-seed, mushrooms, honey, sauerkraut, to make it traditional.
Fish dishes are the only meat dishes served at Christmas Eve.
The Christmas dishes I personally like are:
1. Barszcz czerwony z uszkami - borscht with uszka (uszka are sth similar to pierogi, with a filling made of sauerkraut and mushrooms), it's a beetroot soup (and my favourite soup in general).
youtube.com/watch?v=I_yE5F93XOc
2. The fish dish (lol) I love is śledzie w oleju z cebulą - herring fillets in oil with onion:
gotujmy.pl/sledzie-w-oleju-z-cebula,przepisy-sledz-przepis,52089.html
3. I also like the all time classic sałatka jarzynowa - vegetable slalad with mayo and mustard (I think Russians have it too and eat it at New Year's Eve, if I'm not mistaken):
ugotuj.to/ugotuj/62133982/tradycyjna+salatka+jarzynowa+z+majonezem/p/
As for cakes, there's always some cheescakes, charlotte cakes and all kinds of other cakes with cream or without cream.
Everybody loves karpatka in my family, also everone knows murzynek in Poland:
wizaz.pl/kulinaria/przepis,2037,murzynek-prosciutki-i-pyszny
I also like pleśniak (known as "fuga" in my family). Apparently recipes for it are circulating on Italian blogs and forums as "torta slava" (Slavic cake) lol
everycakeyoubake.blogspot.com/2008/03/dzie-kobiet-pleniak.html
Miodownik (honey cake) is also a nice cake for Christmas.
Sorry, wrong links lol
This is a recipe for miodownik :):
domowe-wypieki.pl/przepisy-ciasta-miodowe/495-przepis-na-miodownik-z-masa-budyniowa
Btw, miodownik should be eaten two, three days after baking, because the cake is softer then.
Mazurek makowo- kokosowy
I associate mazurki more with Easter than Christmas, but there's usually something with poppy-seed on Christmas Eve supper so why not (although I'm not a big fan of poppy-seed tbh, but that's me).
Krusciki
They're called faworki in my region and yesssss, I worship them (at least those made by my grandma ;d)!!! xD <3 Niebo w gębie :D
I made Karpatka a few weeks ago that was pretty good, i'm sure my parents and fam would like it also.
I recommend adding jelly cubes to the cream (for example strawberry or cherry flavoured) :)
Lemon Blueberry Pierogi
I've never tasted such a mix, so I don't know whether they are going to be good or not :)
I would love to try making some piergoi from scratch is this hard, does anyone know.
I wouldn't say they're difficult to make, you can check how they're made on Youtube:
Kutia
Kutia is more an Eastern thing, I guess (Ukrainian, Russian, etc.), but it is eaten in some regions of Poland. I don't think I've ever eaten it and it doesn't sound too encouraging, tbh :P If you want to make it with wheat grains then you'll have to play Cinderella and peel every grain seperately, from what I've read ;O
Basically, dishes vary from region to region, from family to family.
There are supposed to be 12 dishes and usually there have to be some dishes that contain poppy-seed, mushrooms, honey, sauerkraut, to make it traditional.
Fish dishes are the only meat dishes served at Christmas Eve.
The Christmas dishes I personally like are:
1. Barszcz czerwony z uszkami - borscht with uszka (uszka are sth similar to pierogi, with a filling made of sauerkraut and mushrooms), it's a beetroot soup (and my favourite soup in general).
youtube.com/watch?v=I_yE5F93XOc
2. The fish dish (lol) I love is śledzie w oleju z cebulą - herring fillets in oil with onion:
gotujmy.pl/sledzie-w-oleju-z-cebula,przepisy-sledz-przepis,52089.html
3. I also like the all time classic sałatka jarzynowa - vegetable slalad with mayo and mustard (I think Russians have it too and eat it at New Year's Eve, if I'm not mistaken):
ugotuj.to/ugotuj/62133982/tradycyjna+salatka+jarzynowa+z+majonezem/p/
As for cakes, there's always some cheescakes, charlotte cakes and all kinds of other cakes with cream or without cream.
Everybody loves karpatka in my family, also everone knows murzynek in Poland:
wizaz.pl/kulinaria/przepis,2037,murzynek-prosciutki-i-pyszny
I also like pleśniak (known as "fuga" in my family). Apparently recipes for it are circulating on Italian blogs and forums as "torta slava" (Slavic cake) lol
everycakeyoubake.blogspot.com/2008/03/dzie-kobiet-pleniak.html
Miodownik (honey cake) is also a nice cake for Christmas.
Miodownik (honey cake) is also a nice cake for Christmas:
Sorry, wrong links lol
This is a recipe for miodownik :):
domowe-wypieki.pl/przepisy-ciasta-miodowe/495-przepis-na-miodownik-z-masa-budyniowa
Btw, miodownik should be eaten two, three days after baking, because the cake is softer then.
Paulina
30 Sep 2013
Love / Polish women: what do you think of Polish men? Physically unattractive? [180]
LOL
Wow, wait a minute, now you're exaggerating lol
Woah, "politics of memory" brought to a new level o_O
What? xD Come on, that's bull$hit. Men in Poland often think that caring too much after their looks is unmanly. And let's be honest, some men are simply lazy. Women usually put more effort in looking good, because they know how important it is.
Damn, you have some issues, dude o_O
There is no abundance of 'extraordinarily' handsome men in any country in the West or I would have heard about it and I would have seen it.
And I haven't. Even in Italy and France where women usually expect the hottest guys.
If I ever hear Polish women comparing Polish men vs men from the West they usually don't compare their physical features but the way they dress, the way they carry themselves, the way they behave, the way they treat women and what they say about women, their views, etc. ("Oh, Italian men are so cheerful, they smile all the time, they care after their looks, they pay you compliments and just walk up to you and chat up - this rarely happens to me in Poland! It's nice to be around them." etc. etc.)
If they compare the physical features they usually do it vs Southern men and that's usually about their complexion, colour of eyes and hair.
That's true that it puts off most women when a man spends more time on taking care of his looks than women do lol
However, some basic care won't hurt anyone. On the contrary. For example, some men have dry skin and they don't do anything about it. I'm sure it wouldn't kill them if they used a body lotion after shower from time to time :P Touching dry skin is unpleasant. It's a bit distracting when during a foreplay you start thinking: "Geez, he has a skin like a grater, ewww." ;)
True lol
this mythical creature, the Western Male.
LOL
I can proudly say atleast Polish men are in great physical shape compared to the rest of the continent.
Wow, wait a minute, now you're exaggerating lol
Maybe if Western Europe didn't sit around while we were battling Germany/Russia
Woah, "politics of memory" brought to a new level o_O
they can spend whatever they earn on their look
What? xD Come on, that's bull$hit. Men in Poland often think that caring too much after their looks is unmanly. And let's be honest, some men are simply lazy. Women usually put more effort in looking good, because they know how important it is.
there are very few 'extraordinarily' handsome men in Poland
Damn, you have some issues, dude o_O
There is no abundance of 'extraordinarily' handsome men in any country in the West or I would have heard about it and I would have seen it.
And I haven't. Even in Italy and France where women usually expect the hottest guys.
If I ever hear Polish women comparing Polish men vs men from the West they usually don't compare their physical features but the way they dress, the way they carry themselves, the way they behave, the way they treat women and what they say about women, their views, etc. ("Oh, Italian men are so cheerful, they smile all the time, they care after their looks, they pay you compliments and just walk up to you and chat up - this rarely happens to me in Poland! It's nice to be around them." etc. etc.)
If they compare the physical features they usually do it vs Southern men and that's usually about their complexion, colour of eyes and hair.
What a single man spends money on is very telling. I can get behind cars, sports, electronics, hobbies... but hair products? No, not a turn on at all.
That's true that it puts off most women when a man spends more time on taking care of his looks than women do lol
However, some basic care won't hurt anyone. On the contrary. For example, some men have dry skin and they don't do anything about it. I'm sure it wouldn't kill them if they used a body lotion after shower from time to time :P Touching dry skin is unpleasant. It's a bit distracting when during a foreplay you start thinking: "Geez, he has a skin like a grater, ewww." ;)
Sigh... The moment Zimmy jumps on board, he turns any thread into anti-feminist platform.
True lol
Paulina
30 Sep 2013
Love / Polish women: what do you think of Polish men? Physically unattractive? [180]
Are you from Holland by any chance? lol
I don't know, guys, you must have some kind of different perception. As I wrote already, most men looked pretty ordinary in every country I visited.
Polish men aren't some walking Adonises, but most men in other countries aren't either.
Get your feet to the ground a bit lol
Are you from Holland by any chance? lol
Personally I do see a lot of handsome guys from France, not to mention Scandinavia, Poland truly pales by comparison.
I don't know, guys, you must have some kind of different perception. As I wrote already, most men looked pretty ordinary in every country I visited.
Polish men aren't some walking Adonises, but most men in other countries aren't either.
Get your feet to the ground a bit lol
Paulina
29 Sep 2013
Love / Polish women: what do you think of Polish men? Physically unattractive? [180]
And I was abroad too. My female friends and acquaintances also.
FlaglessPole, I've been to a couple of Western countries and I'm telling you - I haven't noticed any abundance of handsome men in any of those countries. Most men look ordinary in all countries I've visited (and most men look ordinary in Poland too).
Are you telling me there are plenty of British Adonises chilling on the beaches of UK? Really? lol Or in the Netherlands maybe? Come on... ;D
Of course they were, which is exactly why they were able to compare. (It's only 5 and a half hour from Warsaw to Berlin by train and many go there to party.)
And I was abroad too. My female friends and acquaintances also.
FlaglessPole, I've been to a couple of Western countries and I'm telling you - I haven't noticed any abundance of handsome men in any of those countries. Most men look ordinary in all countries I've visited (and most men look ordinary in Poland too).
Spent some time in Mazury as well, chilling on a rather crowded grassy lake beach, nope maestro no slavic Adonises there either, just a bunch of speedophiles.
Are you telling me there are plenty of British Adonises chilling on the beaches of UK? Really? lol Or in the Netherlands maybe? Come on... ;D
Paulina
29 Sep 2013
Love / Polish women: what do you think of Polish men? Physically unattractive? [180]
Um... lol No, it isn't o_O
But the shape of his face is common in Polish men...
Um... lol No, it isn't o_O
Paulina
29 Sep 2013
Love / Polish women: what do you think of Polish men? Physically unattractive? [180]
Who, Kaczyński? lol No, even in Poland the two brothers were depicted as hamsters ;) Besides, he's over 60 years old - why are we even discussing him? :P
Who, Kaczyński? lol No, even in Poland the two brothers were depicted as hamsters ;) Besides, he's over 60 years old - why are we even discussing him? :P
Paulina
29 Sep 2013
Love / Polish women: what do you think of Polish men? Physically unattractive? [180]
Ah, that explains a lot. You still have a thing or two to learn, young padawan :)
Were those Polish females ever abroad?
You know, the funny thing is - I don't really notice that much of a difference, or any difference at all (it depends on the country, of course, since I have my preferences) in the handsomeness of Polish men vs Western men (btw, Western men in all Western countries? Are you serious? lol)
But I do watch one Russian channel from time to time and I notice the same thing - women who work in news and actresses are often stunning and many men are far from that. I've never been to Russia so I don't know what it looks like on the ground. On the other hand, I've read comments of Russian women who live in Poland and they often prefer the looks of Russian men - they write they're more manly. And Polish women often say Western men are too metrosexual, in comparisment to Polish men lol
So, it seems the issue is a bit more complicated lol
xD
I'm sorry but that's one of the most ridiculous comments I've read on this forum ;D
A lot of Polish men don't shave their heads :)
I suspect that's the case.
There's some truth to it... lol
This doesn't mean you're handsome yet ;) Besides, it's always the personality that wins for me in the end and it looks like you loose in this department :P
LOL +1000
lose, sorry lol
I'm a young graduate student
Ah, that explains a lot. You still have a thing or two to learn, young padawan :)
And by the way my observation doesn't get any less valid just because I'm not a Polish woman, even though the issue did come up in a few conversations while in Poland (with Polish females)
Were those Polish females ever abroad?
Because it is very noticeable, particularly for someone from outside. All my friends visiting Poland say exactly the same thing; Polish women yes, Polish men meh.
You know, the funny thing is - I don't really notice that much of a difference, or any difference at all (it depends on the country, of course, since I have my preferences) in the handsomeness of Polish men vs Western men (btw, Western men in all Western countries? Are you serious? lol)
But I do watch one Russian channel from time to time and I notice the same thing - women who work in news and actresses are often stunning and many men are far from that. I've never been to Russia so I don't know what it looks like on the ground. On the other hand, I've read comments of Russian women who live in Poland and they often prefer the looks of Russian men - they write they're more manly. And Polish women often say Western men are too metrosexual, in comparisment to Polish men lol
So, it seems the issue is a bit more complicated lol
Ok, weird shaped faces and fat tends to build up in their cheeks. With men, fat usually evenly distributes around the body but with Polish men, it tends to concentrate in their faces.
xD
I'm sorry but that's one of the most ridiculous comments I've read on this forum ;D
Also, it doesn't help when a lot of Polish men shave their heads.
A lot of Polish men don't shave their heads :)
I don't think Polish men are any...uglier than their European counterparts, it's just that they tend to not take as much care of their look, in general. But things seem to change (they always do after all).
I suspect that's the case.
All those aspects help fuel the perception. If Spain was cloudy and raining, the perception would also be different. If Poland had beaches with men laying around all day tanning.....perception would be differen
There's some truth to it... lol
Hey you just admitted you like guys like me. Guess what? My heritage includes Native American and Italian. I have olive skin and dark hair. :P
This doesn't mean you're handsome yet ;) Besides, it's always the personality that wins for me in the end and it looks like you loose in this department :P
Guys why don't you just start a thread like : Foreign men: what do you think of Polish men? (only negative opinions welcome) and there you can circle jerk and boost your egos by bashing Polish males xD
LOL +1000
you loose in this department
lose, sorry lol
Paulina
29 Sep 2013
Love / Polish women: what do you think of Polish men? Physically unattractive? [180]
And Italian women like blue eyed blondes :) And Italian men are absolutely crazy about blue eyed blond women (even if they aren't that pretty) :)
Many people find what's different attractive.
xD
Are you trying to cheer yourself up by the expense of Polish men? ;) Because it looks like it, to be honest :P
What do you mean by "goofy"? Some men are goofy (as far as I understand "goofy"), some aren't. It doesn't depend on nationality.
I don't do conspiracy theories ;) I get a bad vibe, that's all.
It seems many women prefer this.
And Italian women like blue eyed blondes :) And Italian men are absolutely crazy about blue eyed blond women (even if they aren't that pretty) :)
Many people find what's different attractive.
at least British men don't look goofy like Polish men.
xD
Are you trying to cheer yourself up by the expense of Polish men? ;) Because it looks like it, to be honest :P
What do you mean by "goofy"? Some men are goofy (as far as I understand "goofy"), some aren't. It doesn't depend on nationality.
It is rather queer that him and "pierogi2000" come on at the same time. One criticises Poland constantly, the other makes Poland look like a racist backwater. And they're both obsessed with racial issues. hmmm.
I don't do conspiracy theories ;) I get a bad vibe, that's all.