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You don't either. If we are not talking about millionaires who are you talking about? What middle class? You mean salary men who are working in the office, mostly paid by the state? They are not a middle class.

In Poland 500plus is a strange way of a tax rebate.. Strange because it is more costly to do that this way but hey gov needs to show people they care and that cost money.


Poland can, EU or not, Germany can do it so can Poland. That was not really the main aim of PiS I agree but the idea is sound.

At the very least there is no reason to cheer for some shady company that owns a TV station in Poland. That kind of investment is or should not be welcome regardless.


by half for her own good?
By the way Ironsides know, we are not living in 19th century for that to be a secret. By the way food price doesn't go up only in Poland. In Poland it food was crazily cheap till now. On the other hand wages go up too.

I hope farmers will take advantage of the situation, there is a lot of potential..

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It could be a game aimed at their own (PiS) electorate. To show them that their are not USA lackeys...


I don't know statics but I would bet money against peanuts that there is no that much people who are rich and take 500plus. Not enough to rise pay for doctors or some such with money taken away from their kids.

To do that it would need a structural change including tax reform and so on and so forth..


You have been posting here for years and there is a fat chance that you would know better than me.
The only reason you mindlessly cheer for some shady business is because you imagine that PiS got its ass kicked.
Rather that worry about foreign capital owning mass media in Poland.
Stupid way PiS is acting up as if they were morons or were trying to make Polish gov look like a bunch of incompetent clowns that any punk can spook.

If they were to give up so easily why would they even strat it.
What is wrong with my views?
What so fanatical about them?
You should learn from me! To improve your political class you need to know what to vote for and what to demand from politicians. If you go with slogans, platitudes and empty promises you get what you see..

Pandering to foreign clowns and bending backwoods to accommodate them will bring nothing but misery. If you don't know that you and your kids will be shafted big time. What are you if not an idiot if you don't know that much?

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As long as there more people like you in Poland. To be honestly idiots like you. Poland and you too will be shafted all the time by any punk.

Ha ha you don't know anything do you about the issue but all you know is to kick PiS. geez

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So what? Biden and Democrats are the scourge anyway and Democrats never ever done anything for Poland even if they could.
PiS made a blunder not their first and maybe not they last. If they would go for limiting foreign capital in mass media in Poland it would be worth it.

To go and get some lone TV stations - its not worth it.
Anyway USA was always screwing Poland over in many things nothing new.

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Me too. that is why I don't care about this little TV station and PiS song and dance. I think however that mass media in Poland should be owned by the Polish capital and any foreign owned station should not be allowed to operate there. It is a question of a state security.

I think that any international operators that would like to work in Poland and I mean google, Facebook and such, should be a subject to the Polish law and their assets and interest should not be protected by the Polish law if they choose to play games to avoid abiding by its rules.

Let me tell you as a one realist to another that USA can't do much to Poland because they need EU, NATO , Germany and Europe as much as they need Australia. So they won't use big guns over some small matter they just talk big, like you to scare PiS.

All they can do is a legal action which is not a big deal anyway..


Like everywhere else. Poland is a part of the global community now.lol

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Aha, you are one of those, I guess they need only the uk.
Good luck with it, keep rolling with it and the winner is .....China!!

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Really?
Look I don't talk about this station or what nots of PiS politicks because I think that don't know what they are doing or doing it for the wrong reasons.

I'm talking about something else - USA wouldn't kick Poland out of the NATO and has to defend Poland. Poland doesn't need to bend backwoods for the USA just because of that..

Also if Poland's and USA interest clashed - things that USA can do to Poland are very limited bevosue of the EU and Germany. (not talking about war here)

Also there is another alterative for Poland i.e. China and don't tell me they are too far away as USA is not that close either..

Also Russia is not as much of a threat as you claim..

Also American investments are there due to EU and money not due to some deep reasons like an urge to help develop Polish economy and it scale is minuscule comparing to Germany involvement in Poland ...in fact Polish economical development so far depends on EU and Germany and there I see a danger but that it not the topic.

So instead of writing a big paragraph practically ramming home a massage USA Big and Poland small.
Why don't you answer my question ?- Do you think that USA doesn't need NATO and Europe?

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Who are you talking about? I didn't say it is essential to the US economy but hey there are some people/companies that stand to loose....

Poland doesn't really need that expensive gas. With the current admistracion that is just a business as any other...


Indeed but NATO with USA that doesn't fulfil its NATO obligations is just an empty shell. Nobody would need such a NATO.
So willingly or not USA would have to defend Poland. If they wouldn't that would be the end of that organization and US military presence in Europe.


Well, I don't see why not. After all EU wants to be an empire. Turkey also wouldn't stand still. I would say Russia is only that big in American eyes.

There are other options like China.

Poland is in a German zone of interest, our American buddy was supposed to help to change it. If he doesn't want it to do it, he can as well bugger off. the NATO is enough as it is. Don't tell me that USA would kick Poland out of the NATO over some trifle issues..

Come on tell me that USA doesn't need NATO and Europe and I will tell you who the winner is....

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You are ranting, it doesn't work like that and never was...


Look, do you think Poland need the us? Think again... its only NATO that is also what US need and if they ever fail to fulfil their NATO obligation you are done for and NATO is over.

What Poland is buying? - American gas for example... tell to those companies they don't need that money but hey wouldn't that be messing with their money, are you big enough to take them on?

If USA move troops to ?Romania or to the Moon they are free to do it.. boo ho!
They still have to fulfill their obligation as NATO or they are done for ... and they know it even if you don't!

JK this or that... who is better? PO? Don't make me laugh. If there is an alternative I would gladly see it in power, Konfederacja is the best shot.

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why are they cowards because they do not vote as you would like them? I say kudos to them as you have been always disparaging them.


I see that you repeat that lie. Hey I won't say it again IF you don't let it sink in I will assume you love to spread lies.


Is that the current narrative of Soviet Poles? If you all repeat it like mindless drones it is easy to guess..


they are actually not ruling in Poland, unless i don't know something, so it is hard for them to make such impactful decision, other than that it is all about Poland interest in the first place, not about making friends..


Well, As that is all pretty much one sided why would you shoot yourself in the foot? There are so many thing Poland doesn't need to buy from the USA. Other means to get at Poland would be of limited effect as Poland is a part of the EU and German economy..

'half a million drunk parents' oho what a condescending attitude ..... you would need to experience some Chinese love to mellow a tad.

Please cut down on the number quotes in your posts

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Lol!
Hey I didn't know that Konfedracja had so many supporters and fans on PF. You have been hiding well.
K has no interest or business in meddling into this issue.

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Well, yes, some people expressing their opinions, some are doing it as a part of their job.. I don't have anything to say on the issue..

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I mean if you are doing something in politicks you are going to be criticized no matter what...so the fact some people express their disappointment or dislike for this or that act of K doesn't mean anything. Its meaningless.

If you wanted to make a meaningful post you should add what, why and in your opinion..,,
Then I could have something to agree or to disagree or to ignore - commenting on some comments from a twitter is rather pointless.
Do I have to write that much? I would think - so what? - is on point!
Sorry that you failed to understand its meaning..

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So, what?

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Why don't you move where you belong some Russian or Soviet forum..?


You know nothing, You are even unable to follow what is being said..
You Sad Soviet stooge..

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I will IF I ever come to Chicago.

youtu.be/_2RrCL7MIrQ

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Cool, I never made it to Chicago but I have heard lots of bad rumors about the place... I#m pretty sure there some redeeming qualities to the place - like a like nearby.

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I don't know about that but I'm pretty sure you wanted to sound progressive cool and spewed some Marxist slogan to divide people. Suggesting that only females are only ever victims. Why would you do that?

Is not fault of the victims that is clear.
The only people that suggest otherwise are commies like you..

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Is that what is important here?
Acting irresponsible, recklessly and stupid can get you raped or killed or both.
That should be a massage out there!
Not the one that is being sold - women can do whatever they want and if something happen the men or the patriarchy are to blame.

What kind of BS is that?

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Indeed.
He is just cry become without Warsaw uprising Soviet Army would have advanced much further west than it did..


You know very little on the subject so stop spewing your crap.

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No you moron it wasn't, the whole Polish politicks before the WWII and somewhat during the war wasn't rational. Thing is even if it was Poland wouldn't have fared much better at the end.

Given the geopolitical vectors here that part of the world would have been dominated by the Soviets or the Germans..
So in the end it would be much of an happy ending for Poland either way.
Those who claim otherwise are somewhat delusional.
Due to irrational policy makers somewhat Poland ended without siding with the evil forces on one or the other side. That has it price - being chewed up by both.

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Not provoked but girls as well as women should be aware of the reality and act accordingly. Cannot act as if outdoors were just an extension of their parents living room. The world is not a safe place.

I would say some awareness and caution would be in order. Young men tend to be reckless and pay for it. Young women are more vulnerable and if they act recklessly they pay for it even more, that the way it is and is nobody fault.

Why do you keep acting as if the reality check was some kind of insult to women or men's fault? Get your head in order first.


Johnny do you hail from a two parent family?

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Only people who think in absolutes would draw that conclusion but the fact remains that is much better to have a mother and a father than to have only a one parent. And lack of one parent or a normal family increase chances of one becoming an abnormal or anti-social - Individual.


It is not that simple as in being a male role model...just because same male relative exist in the background it doesn't mean he will become automatically a role model.


Oft people can claim to be raped or some-such but that doesn't mean it is a factual information so even if there is no Indological bias in those organizations (oft there is) they tend to take the word of those who claim to be a victim of a rape on its face value.

As far as i know they have no way to verify those claims. It means that data is corrupted.
They don't even know to what extend all that alleged evidence is just an educated guess and ipso facto cannot be counted as an evidence or a scientific data..

There is no question that some rapes are not reported to the police but there is nothing that can be done about it. Rather than being a meddling control freak to extent control over people you don't even know it is better to respect their individual choices.

On that note oft people who claim they care about all those unknow victim of a rape that hasn't been reported are out there to use it as an excuse to extent control over people...and society all those little Stalin out there..

Also a sexual abuse and a rape are not a one the same...

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So what??


I think you hold an idealistic view of the Polish countryside..


look it is a fact that people who came from a single partes family have a significant chance to become a criminal or suffer from many disfunctions....

It is not a good thing...


That is what some people claim but there is no evidence for that! So i would put it down as a pseudoscience.

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do you not follow? I'm not saying she was guilty of something. I'm not even touching all Nazis 'antics'... laws or whatnot ..from a moral point of view her people were guilty of an unjust war (even if it seemed justified in their eyes) it means that all the nasty consequences of them loosing it are on them, so if there are somebody to blame, her people are to blame for suffering or loss she exprinced...in that way she was a victim of her own people hence cannot claim a victim status in the context as that would require putting blame on the others which would be hypocritical.. in that case or in a case of any unjust war...

I would sue if I were in her shoes all those 'war heroes' who were doing very well in the post war Germany/// Like party members and so on...


Yes a good point an intent and a scale.
I would say from a moral point of view because from a legal one is all BS anyways. One need to have a power to enforce it and if one has that power it usually pair with a political convenience.


Oh and you are so much better, geez!

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What do you mean? karma is karma, not that I believe it or understand it really.
You just argue what genocide and what not, at who is a greater victim who is a greater preparator.. look it is all basically very simple

genocide is just any mass murder committed on civilians as well as POWs, the only difference between a genocide and other kinds of murder is - scale...

All those wise peoples and their definitions out there are basically about politicks, a dominat historical narrative and power. Those in power in charge of the historical narrative write and adjust those definitions as they like...

Have you Heard about so called Armenian Genocide? Took them lot of time and effort to lobby in the USA to have it recognized it as a genocide.

Here is catch:
If you ask me about my take on Germans and ethic cleansing after the war here it is - it wasn't a genocide. There is a concept of just and unjust war.

Unjust war means aggression and a just war is a self-defence - roughly speaking.
It means that Germans as those who waged an unjust war even if they suffered in consequence of it, do not get to claim a victim status.

I would think that is clear?

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karma?

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Dude I know that English is your second language but if you dare to make any sort of a argument in that language I would expect you to be very careful what you say and be precise in what you write.

The way you put it in your post is not only idiotic is gibberish, as if an idiot was talking about issues he hardly understand...

Also you pride yourself on being an original poster that cuts through the convention like a hot knife through the butter. Here and there however you are strangely conventional, not challenging or original at all you simply regurgitate already digested issues.

Yes Jews succeeded in installing in the USA their take on their exceptionalism when in comes to the WWII. If you share that view you should be saying it directly. Not hiding behind some lame created by you categories that make no sense or rhythm.

I have explained to you why both happenings were political. That should end the argument or you should try to challenge my take on that. However because you can't you choose another way, you called-my post idiotic.

Really? You dumb fraud, you really have no shame or dignity or a pulse for that matter. Some dope zombie from the ether.
geez ...what a twat!

what you should have said that an ideology behind it or a motivation for those acts were different. Still it doesn't make one mass murder a genocide while the other murder is something else. that is an illogical nonsense. If you condone it you should be supporting the law that introduces so called hate crime...

Illogical inconsistency is your forte, oh what to do? you pride yourself to be both consistent and logical ..lol!


They did! If they could put their hands on them they send them to Gulags or Siberia...Granted after 1941 they somewhat changed their policy towards Poles but before that date.


Hmm not really, they went after Polish farmers in te Soviet union in the 30' too. It wasn't even their fight with kulaks but that was so called Polish operation by NKVD.

You were saying?

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Oh really? What is the difference according to you?


That? Stop yapping! This are your moronic excuses not an argument.
a. Both were political because were created, planed and executed by a country governing structure i.e. it was an official policy.
b. Katyń wasn't a single separated incident of the Soviet extermination policy but only a one ring in the long chain of consistent genocidal policy directed towards Polish ethnicity.

If you don't know much and can't even bother to google little then you can, would you kindly shut your stupid mug you gobshite! ?


An engineer my foot. After 1945 there was no enough collaborators, gutter trash, criminals, minorities (like Jews) and some unknow creatures with fake IDs in the whole Poland to be anything but Soviet butlers. Without Soviet Army and NKVD they wouldn't last in Poland for an hour...

That slowly started to change after 1956 but mostly in the 60' and 70' when the new generation shaped by the Soviets grew up!

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Oh BS! you will find such individuals everywhere ...generally speaking Polish girls are OK,


Don't prompt that freak to post, he doesn't need prompting he needs culling..