History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


Ask the United States, Canada, France, Brazil, Italy, Argentina and tens of other countries on every continent about the Poles who emigrated (basically ran away, and who can blame them?) during and after WW2. Besides, as Bobko said, don't forget that about 20% of pre-war Polish citizens were Ukrainians, Belarussians and Lithuanians.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

By the way...

... what the f*ck is that??? 2nd Ukrainian Lebensborn Division? FFFFF? F*ck For Fuhrer Female Forces? 0_0


Interesting. Could you please explain to those not as brilliantly informed how did you come to the brilliant conclusion that "Russians murdered Poles with greater zeal than the Germans"?

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


Say what? You meant that Russians murdered Poles with greater zeal than the Germans?

It's September 1st today, Alien, not April 1st.

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]


51st state - fully independent, always noble, sun shining right out of their arses. Why do you even have to ask?

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


Of course UPA murdered Poles with greater zeal than the Germans. Quite right, Alien!


If only Red Army, AK and LWP soldiers carried stopwatches with them - they could time UPA and see how fast they ran. I bet some respectable results were achieved back then, even by today's athletic standards.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

And those red-black flags waving in the wind... so many memories... so many historical connotations. They chose their heroes. They chose their identity.


As for Galicja - a clueless foreigner in Poland might think that the war is raging not in Donbass but somewhere close to L'viv, there's so many refugees from Western Ukraine in Poland!


Yes, poor things. Nazi armies rolled through Ukraine - they still didn't know what Nazism was. They exterminated Polish, Russian and Jewish civilians, and yet they still didn't know what Nazism was. Today they organise marches with torches and SS-uniforms, and I bet they STILL don't know what Nazism was. Poor, poor innocent little thingies.

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]


Every international agreement can be revoked, especially one enforced by extremists (and Green Khmers are indeed extremists).

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


Can't wait for the mental gymnastics. I bet it will be a masterful performance.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


The SS bit seems to be missing there.


La ilaha illa Ukraina wa Stepan rasul UPA?


And they actually used genuine photos of SS soldiers there!

Mind boggles...

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


Nah ja, Ukrainische Nr. 1. Sieg heil and all that.

Aber warum not call it by its proper name: 14. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS Galizien?


That was my first thought too.

*grabs popcorn and waits for mental gymnastics display from the usual suspects*

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

First to Fight: 1939



No more appeasing the monster, no more disgrace over honour - Poland will fight the nazi beast...

Abandoned by her allies, attacked from every direction on the entire length of the border, all alone...

Brave soldiers willing to lay their lives down for their country but poorly equipped and led by commanders ready for the previous war not this one...

85 years today... how the time flies...

CZEŚĆ I CHWAŁA BOHATEROM!

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@Pawian

You got it.

But be vigilant like ważka w okresie rui and reprimand me if I stray from the path again.

Peace.

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Ridicule? Far from it. A mere brotherly correction.

We are Poles. If our Latin is not correct, where are we in our lives?

Glad it was just a typo. Are you happy with the 2019 caesura?

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Pawian, one of the frozen chosen? Some time ago I though I was one of them but this episode in my life ended.

Pawian... a born again, regenerate monkey? Strange theology. ;)

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]


It's 'vitae'. Your Latin is getting rusty.

But OK... let's say the newest photos will be 2019. Happy now?

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

There were many photos very early in this thread which are hardly 'historic' (2023, 2024).

I don't see what your problem is. Campus Polska in Olsztyn already happened, so it's history now.

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

This thread has evolved from historic photos only to quotidian scenes from everyday life and public events too.

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]

I think it is evident now that Tacitus is a Green Khmer. If his ilk prevails in the EU, Poland will have no other choice but to leave the union.

#saynotogreencommunism

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And about bloody time!

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Oh, definitely! Western Europe has been robbing Africa of its precious natural resources for centuries, and now they are robbing them of their young generation. Despicable.

As I said. Mass immigration policies must change into mass deportation. Those young people are needed in their respective countries!

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No, we are not. If Green Khmers push towards this insanity, then the EU is history.


People are migrating from the Third World countries to the EU not because of the climate but because of the poverty, corruption and general lack of opportunities in places where they live. Instead of inviting them all to Europe we should make life better for them in their countries by...

- transferring technology (especially in farming, sanitation and health) and material support
- wiping their debt clean
- education

... certainly not by flooding them with climate reparations "free money" or by becoming poor ourselves (we will be in no position to help anyone if it happens).


Yes, my mistake - it's on the registration of new ones (which, of course, effectively means the stop of combustion engine vehicles production), so it will be a bit more spread in time.

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Anyways, I think it is vital for the EU to recognize the difference between sensible green policies and Green Khmerism. For example...

- transition to renewable energy sources and decreasing emissions to acceptable level - sensible policies;
- closing all coal mines/power plants, forcing poorer EU countries to pay the same emission prices as the rich ones, zero emissions target - Green Khmerism;

- government subsidies for electric vehicles, possible tax exemptions for companies switching their transport park to electric/hydrogen - sensible policies;
- complete ban on all vehicles using internal combustion engines starting from 2035 all over the EU with complete and utter disregard for the financial capabilities of poorer EU members and their transport companies, businesses etc. - Green Khmerism.

Sensible green policies can lead to healthier environment and more sustainable development with great advantage for the coming generations.
Green Khmerism can lead to economic downfall, social unrest and possible breakup of the EU.

It is all for the EU leaders to decide - will they decide to be sensible politicians or blunt doctrinaires? I would prefer the former but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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Billions upon billions are spent on the transition to renewables all over the EU, and even more billions could be spent if it wasn't for the lamentable carbon emission allowances scheme.


It's hardly new, is it? The scheme started in 2005, that's almost 20 years already.


Well, it's been 20 years and still nobody outside the EU seems to have noticed what a brilliant idea it is and decided to introduce something similar.

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]


No, but it is far poorer than Germany or the Netherlands, and yet we are forced to pay the same price for carbon emissions which effectively thwarts our economy. If the hard-headed stubbornness and blunt doctrinalism that you present on the matter remain the EU's mainstream policies, then I think PolExit might become a more real perspective than anyone dared to even imagine not so long ago.


You are arguing against your point. Precisely because there are coal and smog problems, the money should be spent on the transition to renewable energies, not on pointless CO2 emission allowances that nobody else outside the EU pays for. If the idea was so brilliant, I'm quite sure Japan, USA, China, Canada, Australia and others will quickly adapt the same or similar schemes. Somehow they don't.

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]


I simply can't explain it.

They either think that people are idiots or that we completely lost any capability for rebellion and civil disobedience. The worst thing is - they may be right...

- whose going to mass strike when trade unions are the weakest in history?
- can we hope for a coordinated action of any sort in the overwhelming "every man for himself" climate?
- how do we expect people to rebel against inflation, low wages and exorbitant energy prices when everyone is a millionaire of Facebook and Instagram?

The social matrix does seem to be intricately woven so as not to allow any sort of social unrest. Say what you want about PRL, but when commies went a bit too far with rising prices (like with food prices in 1976) they had mass strikes all over Poland - these days we can't hope for any such mass protest against the government.


Oh, so you agree that rich countries like Germany, the Netherlands or Luxembourg should pay exactly the same price for carbon emission allowances as Poland, Romania or Bulgaria? Because that's exactly what's happening now. If you do, then we have nothing to talk about - the idea is so preposterous that I can't even start to debate it.

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Then why isn't Japan implementing those "sensible policies"? Why China and the USA don't accept CO2 emission quotas (not to mention paying for carbon allowances)? Why don't Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil or - in fact - anyone outside the EU join this scheme or adapts any similar "brilliant" idea?


It might well be that it is "starting to" pay off for them, as you say, but it is starting to do so precisely because they don't destroy their economies with idiotic CO2 emission quotas which do nothing but thwart the development of many European countries. It would definitely not even start to pay off for them if, on top of the enormous cost of transition from fossils to renewables, they were forced to pay billions upon billions for emission certificates.

The matter is doubly scandalous especially because originally the emission allowances weren't supposed to be traded and speculated upon. In the last 5-6 years, the price of emissions allowances (EUA) traded on the EU's Emissions Trading System (ETS) has increased from below €10 per metric tonne of carbon to above €100 in February 2023. At the moment the price is around €70 and it is effectively thwarting the development of most new EU members who simply cannot afford such exorbitant payments.

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Oh, you know, things like Poland closing her coal mines while Germany is opening new ones - it does look strange and incoherent but we are led to believe that it is Germany (the EU) who is pressurising Poland into closing coal mines and coal-based power-plants. Things like CO2 emision certificates, the ban on internal combustion engines since 2035 etc.


Europe (not only companies but also ordinary people who, e.g. in Poland, are paying ridiculously high energy bills - especially compared to average wages) is falling behind the USA and China precisely because the USA and China don't give a f*ck about emissions or CO2 quotas. Green Khmerism is already ruining European economy and it will only get worse.

Maybe the general idea behind it is that when we become as poor as Africa, then perhaps the immigrants from the Third World will stop flooding our countries but it's a mistake: we will ruin our industry for nothing - they will still come because of the better climate, social benefits and retarded natives who allow this mass invasion.

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That is correct. If only your government would stop pushing the Green Khmers' agenda and switched from mass immigration to mass deportation mode, there would definitely be a visible improvement in German-Polish relations.

Off-Topic / What's your connection with Poland? Penpals. [595]


As any cultured, well-mannered and intelligent person is eventually bound to!

Welcome to the forum, John, good to have you with us. Hang around, enjoy the board, and should you have any questions regarding all things Polish, don't hesitate to ask me (others, as Atch mentioned, might not be well qualified to answer your enquiries).

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

Hello, fellow youngsters: 2024

Ruling government's politicians: Barbara Nowacka (49), Rafał Trzaskowski (52) and Sławomir Nitras (51) during a meeting with students in Olsztyn. :)

The photos today don't require any comment from me. They comment themselves; they are self-commenting, so to speak. :)