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Posts by peterweg  

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From: London, Battersea, Krakow.
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peterweg   
26 Oct 2011
News / Will Poland be badly hit by Recession ? I don't think so. [70]

162 billion exports in a population of 38 million while Germany has 1.2 trillion exports for 82 million people.This means that the living standard in Poland would have to be 15% of that of Germany if there were no outflows from the latter.But the Germans will get their money back one way or another.

Yes, lets compare Poland against the world biggest exporter, that would be fair wouldn't it?. Poland's exports have grown 13.6% this year to August, up over 1500% (in nominal terms) since 1991. If you want to simplistic, in 9 years Polands PER CAPITA exports would match Germany's.

Why not use the PLN as your base currency then there is no room for currency appreciation or depreciation.

Read the link I already posted where its in PLN, USD and EUR. In dollar terms exports are up 21.7% year to August.

stat.gov.pl/gus/5840_970_ENG_HTML.htm

By those figures its going to be $197billion by year end 2011
peterweg   
26 Oct 2011
News / Will Poland be badly hit by Recession ? I don't think so. [70]

You have to see what Poland exports that maybe of interest for other countries.The rest is just thin air the Germans provide now to get it multipied back in the next decades.

Exports:

$162.3 billion (2010 est.)

$142.1 billion (2009 est.)

Exports - commodities:
machinery and transport equipment 37.8%, intermediate manufactured goods 23.7%, miscellaneous manufactured goods 17.1%, food and live animals 7.6%

Exports - partners:
Germany 26.9%, France 7.1%, UK 6.4%, Italy 6.3%, Czech Republic 6.2%, Netherlands 4.3%, Russia 4.1% (2010)

cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/pl.html
stat.gov.pl/gus/5840_970_ENG_HTML.htm
peterweg   
18 Oct 2011
Life / Price of cigarettes in Poland? [192]

whats the security like at the boarders do they chick everyones bag

Its random, hour by hour it changes, just take in account that they maybe seized.
peterweg   
13 Oct 2011
Life / What is Poland's fastest growing ethnic group? [57]

not sure what you mean by that?

Honour Killings.

Muslims don't cause any more problems than anyone else in the UK, they don't tend to drink which accounts for most of the crime.
peterweg   
5 Oct 2011
Life / Rate Poland (Life Quality / Culture and People / Food): 1-10! [232]

I've never been to Paris but judging by pictures of it took by my friends, Paris seems to be dull and overhyped.

I've been, and your judgement is completely wrong. Paris is unique and beautiful. France is the most popular tourist destination in the world and deservedly so, its a beautiful country.
peterweg   
5 Oct 2011
Life / Rate Poland (Life Quality / Culture and People / Food): 1-10! [232]

A Polish woman who can make sushi. I would be in heaven, seriously :

My wife can, her nurse friends can make it as well. Its easy. The problem is getting Fish of sufficient quality, freshness and variety. pretty impossible here in Krakow.
peterweg   
30 Sep 2011
Food / Polish name for cut of beef [29]

Anyway, and back to the point: in his opinion if the cow is slaughtered in a distressing fashion it will tense up, moan (and everything else which id rather not go into detail about) thus creating a tough meat.

This true, AFAIK. Party why Kobe beef is so good is they make them very, very happy. The beer helps with this process.
peterweg   
29 Sep 2011
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

Apart from the loan on one which you told us about on the previous page

Its a personal unsecured loan. Nothing to do with the property and not a mortgage. I don't have to pay it.
peterweg   
29 Sep 2011
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

No, I was taking the ****. The assumption that renting is dead money, nobody loses money on property and all the other cliché's. Its true to an extent but not automatically. The rental yield on Krakow apartments looks ****, hence owning rather then renting might not be a good idea.

Do remind me to come to you next time I want financial advice.

Thanks I'll pass. We have two properties and neither has a mortgage so I feel happy with my own advice.
peterweg   
29 Sep 2011
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

But I'm sure we will need a time machine in order to go far enough forwards in time to see you finally produce the list of things that need to be done when building a house and the costs thereof.

Until I pay off the loan for the land in two years, the road gets built and the planning permission given I don't even have to start looking at building the houses.

No they won't. They will settle at the level where demand meets supply.

Same thing really.Where and when doesn't matter to 99% of the population, they can stay put and save.
peterweg   
29 Sep 2011
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

Nice is a beautiful place with beautiful food, beautiful climate and ocean views (pity about the stony beach).

Pay for a private beach and get away from the stones and peasants :)

The city is full of dog s*** though, never seen so much of it.

There is a huge difference between 35 sqm and 50 sqm

My flat is 40m and its got a bedroom, living room (20m2) and large bathroom.
peterweg   
29 Sep 2011
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

So you have a time machine or a crystal ball?

Give me the numbers for the lottery will you, my wife is very depressed about missing out on the 50million
peterweg   
27 Sep 2011
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

I live/lived in a 40m apartment in London, no problem. I've often had four people staying there. Perfectly do able.

The situation in Nice or the Alps (16m studio's) or Honk Kong (2m2 room) show what people are capable of.
peterweg   
27 Sep 2011
Real Estate / Cost to build in Eastern Poland - Ideally per m2 [71]

Well, if they are friends or family of yours, they're unlikely to have discovered the ceiling amount.

No, they are Polish, so of course not. What is it?

We agree to disagree. My company is Polish, I can buy what I want.

Not disagreeing, I don't know your company situation.
peterweg   
27 Sep 2011
Real Estate / Cost to build in Eastern Poland - Ideally per m2 [71]

Er, it isn't quite as simple as that, as a fair few people are starting to find out to their cost.

What do you mean 'starting', the family and friends have been doing this all their lives, whats changed?
peterweg   
27 Sep 2011
Real Estate / Residential real estate values go down in Poland [455]

Residential real estate values go down in Poland

According to a report by oferty.net and information obtained from analysts at Open Finance, prices of residential real estate on Poland's secondary market went down in many cities in in August.

Values in Gdynia and Lublin decreased by about 2 percent compared to July levels, to zł.6,128 per sqm and zł.5,134 per sqm, respectively, Rzeczpospolita wrote. In Warsaw, prices also went down by 1.2 percent, reaching an average of zł.8,811 per sqm.

Poznań, on the other hand, noted a slight appreciation in residential housing values, with prices going up by 0.4 percent in August compared to July, to an average level of zł.5,779 per square meter.

wbj.pl/article-56239-residential-real-estate-values-go-down-in-poland.html
peterweg   
27 Sep 2011
Real Estate / Cost to build in Eastern Poland - Ideally per m2 [71]

As I suspect you know, the poster meant 5,000 an "ara" not m2.

Nope, he made it quite clear he was talking about 5k per m2. Even restated that the total cost per m2 would be 9k.

If you delved deeper into these ads you might understand why they are this price.

This is what country land is like. They are narrow strips so that village houses can be classified as farms, you get the land but are 20meters from your neighbours for security/social reasons. The advantage of being a farmer (owning over 1ha) means that you get the income from farming and the state pension, healthcare and no tax returns for a 900pln payment per year. The preferential treatment for farmers is so unfair to normal citizens that the EU has demanded Poland stop it.

I can show you plots of land with direct access to tarmac road and a few hundred meters from the S7 highway between Krakow/Warsaw. My own land is going to have a road built (to the S7) and rezoned to Agro-building. Even then I would only value it 20-30pln/m2 in 8-10,000m2 plots (assuming I can split it). Its current value with a non-metalled road is about 4PLN/m2 as farm land. I guess..

The point is there are lots of cheap land, lots of new, quality roads being built, but its completely different to city land and development and you (assuming you are not Polish) are not even allowed to purchase until 2016 anyway. Of course it is of no interest to you.

The "little" things that I would expect an IT consultant to forget.

Stop the personal insults, I'm at least a qualified engineer, with a degree recognised by the IEEE. Are you a civil engineer? describing yourself as developer would suggest not. Building is an engineering endeavour, hardly rocket science, but it follows the same principles whatever the discipline. The real difference is practical experience, of course, and if the most hassle you have is moving a telegraph pole then I'd say you are lucky.

"Even the figures you quote for hassles don't make a dent on the overall cost... your 6k/m2 figure is higher than other builders are selling for, including land, and higher than the sales price for all sorts of completed property."

One or both of us misunderstood the other. The OP asked what the price was for building, excluding land. I'm saying it around 3k (excluding fixtures and fitting such as kitchen, bathroom) but including a septic tank/power.

I think I'll contact towncountry.pl and get exact specification of what is included.
peterweg   
27 Sep 2011
Real Estate / Cost to build in Eastern Poland - Ideally per m2 [71]

If you look at the OP, you will see he already has a plot of land to build on. What planet are you living on where building land costs 5k per m2 in Eastern Poland?? It doesn't even cost 9k per M2 in central Krakow, never mind country land.

here ,1200m2 land for 34k. works out 170pln per m2 build on a 200m2 building

100m, 55K, = 250pln/m2 for 200m built.

Here's a list. completed houses from 100pln per M2
peterweg   
23 Sep 2011
Real Estate / Cost to build in Eastern Poland - Ideally per m2 [71]

Poland is destroying her countryside

I agree, its annoying to see crappy built, half finished houses. Its economic, once Poland gets richer its governmnet may feel they can enforce similar laws.