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Polonius3   
6 Jun 2017
News / The dossier of TW "Bolek" - Poland's IPN assisted by police enters the home of the late general Kiszczak [306]

Pole still lives in poverty

You're 100% right up till October 2015. After the Kiszczak-Wałęźsa-Michnik faction won the June 1992 stand-off, the post-nomeklatura faction got a new lease of life and would enjoy disproportionate advantages under various governng parties, except PiS, for the next two decades. The Tusk government did slightly reduce the fat-cat pensions of SB OAPs, but only the PiS government reduced them to average level. To this day, SB colonels and other other unsavory PRL hold-overs flock to PO-led demonstrations ina bid to retian their undeserved privileges. But it's all in vain -- the reduction of their pensions to average level is due to commence in October.

Poland is still a poor countrycomapred to the top EU economies, but all the economic indicators have improved markedly.(As a hard-nosed pro-capitalist even you cannot deny that.) And for the first time in 30 years, more people are immigrating to Poland than emigrating. Of the immigrants, 75% are repatriates, job-seeking émigrés who had moved to the West, esp. British Isles and Germany, after Poland joined the EU.
Polonius3   
5 Jun 2017
News / The dossier of TW "Bolek" - Poland's IPN assisted by police enters the home of the late general Kiszczak [306]

Poland today is a free country

Communism collapsed in June 1989. It resurfaced as post-communism in June 1992, and soon thereafter PZPR Poitburo Member Miller and his comrades were back in office and another PZPR VIP Kwaśneiwski became president. They provided the proper protection for post-nomenklatura circles to prosper while the average Pole suffered poverty.
Polonius3   
5 Jun 2017
News / The dossier of TW "Bolek" - Poland's IPN assisted by police enters the home of the late general Kiszczak [306]

multi-million zloty villas

Wałęsa's digs have been posh and palatial, haven't they? He's not exactly languishing in some cramped flat in a ramshackle block. Why not get ylour PO buddies ot raise the issue of JK's sexuality in the Sejm? You seem fixated on the subject so go for it, otherwise stul pysk.

single, incompetent governmen

In that short time Olszewski stopped Wałęsa signing a deal with Moscow to turn ex-Soviet bases into "joint-ventures" meaning the Russians would have had a permanetn presence in Poland. He would have also stopped Balcerite robber-baron privatisaiton on which the nomenklatura got rich. He was toppled not due to incompetnece but because the dirty secrets and dodgy interests of an ad hoc political clique were threatened.
Polonius3   
5 Jun 2017
News / The dossier of TW "Bolek" - Poland's IPN assisted by police enters the home of the late general Kiszczak [306]

hypocrite

It's nothing to be proud of, is it? But rememebr, being a homo itslef is not a sin, it's an affliciton one is born with. Only the abominablre practice is sinful. Maybe he's reformed (once again assuming the insinuation is true). Everyone has free will and the opportuntiy to repent or (if you prefer) clean up their act.

can handle historical

Word 'truth' dropped out. Should have read: historical truth.
Polonius3   
5 Jun 2017
News / The dossier of TW "Bolek" - Poland's IPN assisted by police enters the home of the late general Kiszczak [306]

is never seen in female company

But you're a well-kown f*g-lover, homophile or whatever it's called. so if your insinuation about JK is true, then you should be all for him, n'est-ce pas? But we were not discussing anyone except Walęsa, so focus on him, his virtues and vices as well. The complete man. Also the bluster and waffling and how his fame has gone to his head and how he would get rid of anyone who was cleverer than him... And his unkrept promsies. He said he would send the commies off in nothing more than the socks on their feet. Instead the nomenklatura flourished and thrived on the fat of the land. Only now they are huffing and puffing when their undeserved pensions are being trimmed down to size.
Polonius3   
5 Jun 2017
News / The dossier of TW "Bolek" - Poland's IPN assisted by police enters the home of the late general Kiszczak [306]

there is another politician

There are many politicans, pharmacists, lawyers, priests and shopkeepers whose past haunts them. So what? What does that prove? You can ignore Wałęsa's biography and his self-admitted paid SB informer status and call him a hero. No law against that. And we all know why you think so. He has become the darling and patron of the losers' club with which you identify. Not surprising!
Polonius3   
5 Jun 2017
News / The dossier of TW "Bolek" - Poland's IPN assisted by police enters the home of the late general Kiszczak [306]

who was and was not in that group

Anyone who knows anything about Polish history and politics is fmailair with the workigns of the nomenklatura. In every captive nation or Soviet satellite all decision-making and managerial posts were reserved for that group who controlled the government, economy, media, education, culture and most other fields of endeavour.

Kiszczak, was top nomenklatura and together with Michnik (his dad was but he wasn't) created the roundtable to enable a smooth transiton for the commies into post-communist Poland. Anyway, this will give you the basics:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomenklatura
Polonius3   
5 Jun 2017
News / The dossier of TW "Bolek" - Poland's IPN assisted by police enters the home of the late general Kiszczak [306]

excellent description of

Someone disucsses oranges and you compare them to apples. Always taking the discourse off-thread.
Wałęsa lucked out. That one occurrence set off a series of events which often worked in his favour. He wanted to end the shipyard strike but his workmates were against it. If at that point he had said: "Continue your strike, I'm taking my marbles and going home" -- the world may have never heard of Wałęsa. But he went along with his workmates, displayed leadership qualities and, as peasant-rooted workers go, had the gift of the gab and the rest is history. But that hsitory is riddled with various elements. His presidential chancellery was populated by SB snitches -- not amateurish ones like himself in the 1970s, but hard-core, heavy-duty ones.You don't send amateurs to advise the president of a country! His éminence grise Wachowski, also a TW, represented the post-PZPR/post-KOR establishement, advised Wałęsa accordingly and remains a shadowy figure to this day.

The greatest living Pole? With the passing of JP2, one thing is certain: he is now the best-known living Pole.
Polonius3   
5 Jun 2017
News / The dossier of TW "Bolek" - Poland's IPN assisted by police enters the home of the late general Kiszczak [306]

a small group of post-communists

The nomenklatura plus their families, social circles and assorted fellow travellers were not a small group. The leftist-dissident KOR was initially a small group but when Wałęsa gave Michnik Gazeta Wyborcza, they became the most influential intellectual force. Both groups were mutually suppportive to a large extent and both were skilled in the PR/propaganda field. That is why their narrative lasted a quarter-century. Those who stayed in Poland did not rob Poland blind by taking it all out of the county, the hefty kickbacks from foreign-interest groups went into their private pockets, much of which was spent in Poland. So in a skewed way, their internal consumption fuelled the economy. I used to call it RP III myself until more and more previously hidden facts came to light. You don't like RT clique, fair enough. So they can be called the post-communist outfit (Capone's term), system, establishment, arrangement, club, coterie...take your pick. More accurate would be post-communist/leftist dissident group (KOR+PZPR) estblishment, etc., but that is a bit unwieldy, wouldn't you say?
Polonius3   
5 Jun 2017
News / The dossier of TW "Bolek" - Poland's IPN assisted by police enters the home of the late general Kiszczak [306]

not at all agressive towards Lech Wałęsa

Wałęsa is actually quite a tragic figure -- a hostage of his own past which continues to haunt him. When it is brought up, he goes ballistic and himself becomes quite aggressive. Together with Komorowski (who said opponents should be whacked with a board) Wałęsa has called (rhetorically so far) for physical attacks on his antagonists, eg helping them jump out of upper-storey windows. That in turn provokes aggression against him. There are those like Olechowski (one of the three tenors until Tusk booted him out) and Boni who have admitted their past and it has been largely accepted. Wałęsa wavered, once admitting it, later denying it probably at the advice of éminence grise SB plant Wachowski. Wałęsa by virtue of being in the right palce at the right time (jumping over the shipyard fence) did become a hero and by hobnobbing with real politicians as well as foreign diplomats and statesmen polished his act. Initially he opposed to roundtable clique and even declared a "war at the top" ot loosen their grip on the Polish body politic, but faced by the Bolek business in 1992, and advised by Kuroń and other KOR-ites, switched sides.Many people feel, he threw in with the wrong side, but in Realpolitik terms it was the winning side until, that is, October 2015. And that's it in a nutshell!
Polonius3   
5 Jun 2017
News / The dossier of TW "Bolek" - Poland's IPN assisted by police enters the home of the late general Kiszczak [306]

tremendously boring

Not everyone can handle historical. Some prefer a more palatable, sugar-coated, short-cut version. I can mimic it too: Wałęsa's 10-million-strong Solidarność teamed up with Poland's intellectual community to peacefully overthrow the communist regime and....they all lived happily ever after.....

No friction, no cross-currents, no confllcting pressures, no interest groups, no antagonisms....everything is clear-cut, balck & white, peachy keen and hunky-dory!
Polonius3   
5 Jun 2017
News / Poland calls on British expertise to analyse the Smolensk accident [49]

Ewa Kopacz

Kopacz deserves to face the Tribunal of State for gross neglect of duty and lying through her teeth to the Polish people. Anyone not afraid of the bitter truth would do well to read the latest issue of "Wsieci" weekly which graphically illustrates the Russians' "professionalism", "solicitousness", "empathy" and "all.round assiustance". What was left of the cadavers together with random body parts were dumped into grabage bags and stuffed into coffins. And that's not all.....
Polonius3   
4 Jun 2017
News / The dossier of TW "Bolek" - Poland's IPN assisted by police enters the home of the late general Kiszczak [306]

Black propaganda was working against PC

And it's the same black propaganda now working against the democratically elected PiS government. It's not about freedom, democracy, constitutionality or rule of law. Those are sugar-coated slogans designed to win support from the gullible. It's only about self-interest. In the case of the PO-KOD-Petru-PSL losers' club the watchword is: BACK TO THE TROUGH!
Polonius3   
2 Jun 2017
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Poland's post-election political scene

Poles are critical of the way their country's political parties function. In a recent survey by pollster CBOS, 87% referred to parties as cliques whose only goal is to gain power. 80% felt political parties comprise people whose main motivation is personal ambition, and 66% percent said that the goals of most parties were unclear. But 54%admitted that parties propose solutions to major problems in Poland. CBOS noted that Poles have grown more critical of political parties compared with the results of surveys six and 16 years ago. The ongoing Polish-Polish war between the former liberal Civic Platform (PO) government, kicked out of office by voters in 2015, and the ruling conservative Law and Justice cabinet has often degenerated into mutual tit for tat mud-slinging over every possible issue. Those unending controversies have both polarized Polish society as well as turning many Poles against the political establishment as a whole. That largely accounts for Poland's generally low voter turnout.
Polonius3   
2 Jun 2017
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

PO scamster regime

The Schetyna game plan code-named "ulica i zagranica" (and we might add "Targowica") saw Poland-bashing opposition emissaries spread their venom far and wide. It actually led to a rating-agency downturn even though in 2016 the Polish economy was hardly a shambles.

But all the ballyhoo turned out to be little more than a smoke-screen to cloud the PO's shame at total election defeat and their desperate desire to return to the trough. Now the ratings are back up, nealry all economic indicators are positive, foreign investments are growing apace, new opportuniteis are opening up for indigenous Polish entrepreneurs, innovations are being promoted, more children are being born and....for the first time in 30-some years more people are migrating to Poland than leaving!!! Of the incomers 75% are Poles returning from job stints abroad, mainly from the British Isles and Germany. Some have told reproters that maybe one can earn more abroad but the prices of everything are sky-high. On balance, many can achieve comparable purchasing power in Poland, and their foreign experience often works to their advanatge. On the plus side, in Poland they are at home with family and friends and nobody calls them "bloody foreigners".

The moral of the story: PO did a lousy job governing, thereby earning a red card from the Polish nation. And they're not doing any better as an opposition. Lots of ballyhoo but utlimately they are too weak, inefffective and clueless to do much actual harm.
Polonius3   
29 May 2017
News / Poland calls on British expertise to analyse the Smolensk accident [49]

2010 plane crash

Another day, another example of slipshod PO misrule. During the exhumation of Smolensk victim Gen. Bronislaw Kwiatkowski the body parts of seven different people were found in his coffin. His widow said she was fed up with all the PO lies and wanted to shouther complaint out to the whole wide world.

PO's then health min. Kopacz said she had surervised the handling of the vicitms remains in Moscow in a comeptemnt and professional manner. She also promised the Rooskies the coffins would not be opened in Poland. That gave the Muscovites carte blanche to what they are best known for -- display contempt for human life and for their remains after death. On more than one occasion victims remains

were placed in the wrong coffins and odd body parts and random debris were foudn therein. No wonder PO wanted and wants to sweep the whole Smolensk busienss under the carpet.

wiadomosci.dziennik.pl/wydarzenia/artykuly/550955,ekshumacje-rodziny-general-bronislaw-kwiatkowski-katastrofa-smolenska.html
Polonius3   
28 May 2017
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

PO

Those who want to know why the Polish nation gave the PO scamster regime the red card in October 2015 would do well to read this link. Maybe someone will take pity on poor Anglo-jabbering PiSlamic and give him a brief summary in English.

grzechy-platformy.org/podsumowanie/
Polonius3   
25 May 2017
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

PO exceeded that for PiS

I clearly mentioned the " one-off margin-of-error fluke last month". Although elections are still well off in the fuutre, periodic monitoring of sirveys provides soem idea of the changing public mood.
Polonius3   
25 May 2017
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

PiS-bashers

Interestingly, PF's consummate PiS-bashers, who are always banging on about their various obsessions, hangups and complexes, are strangely silent upon learning the latest poll results. So let me repeat: PO has fallen a full 14 percentage points below PiS.
Polonius3   
25 May 2017
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

PiS

Read it and weep! As predicted, the good-change PiS party's lead over the PO scamster grouping is inching its way up following a one-off margin-of-error fluke last month. The latest Kantar poll showed that 35% had opted for PiS, a full 14 percentage points ahead of PO's - 21%, Kukiz - 10% and Petru's N-word - 6%.

It appears the Polish nation knows and feels something PF's PiS-bashers do not!
Polonius3   
24 May 2017
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

you admit this

I admit only that PiSlamic banging on about it reflects his obsessive-compulsive disorder, As his loyal disciple and admirer you should gently suggest he sees a shrink.
Polonius3   
24 May 2017
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

volunteered

Volunteering but not doing a thing did not harm anyone, so why the hang-up. Many of those observing PiSlamic on PF are convinced it is due to his the broken-record obsessive-compulsive disorder. He simply forgets he has typed the same thing 14 times in a single day.
Polonius3   
24 May 2017
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

served the people of Poland

Then whom did the SB and TW serve? People like Pawlak, Kuroń, Moczulski, Kwaśniewski, Miller, Boni, Cimoszewicz et al?