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Bratwurst Boy   
4 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

So those doomed to eternal austerity

Again, that is not something the EU can change...it isn't a federation as of yet, and won't be for awhile. If you mean the EURO membership, that is another thing altogether and of course that needs different rules.

And btw. there is no "doomed to eternal austerity"...there is just bad economy and bad monetary decisions...

Poland is going to tell them to stop talking nonsense.

Why? Been invaded recently? ;)

Plus, we might mention the fork (as a bonus)

I want to have a front row seat for that discussion (+ popcorn)... :)
Bratwurst Boy   
4 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

By welfare state!

Quite the contrary. I think the most unregulated phase of globalism is nearing it's end...but then I can only speak from a german point of view where right now bundles of new social initiatives are planned, decided and agreed upon.

But again, that is not an EU thing...all member states make still their own social policies.

There is some stuff nonetheless:

eurofound.europa.eu/topic/social-policies
Bratwurst Boy   
4 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

so we are certainly able to afford nuclear weapons.

But how about the political price? It's worse than building an nuclear reactor directly at your border. Because if something goes wrong your neighbour is paying the price...so he will be pissed!

In the EU Poland will get alot pissed off neighbours...and the French won't like that at all..
Bratwurst Boy   
4 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

There doesn't have to be a "core".

Maybe...the naming could be handled differently. But analysts expect the future...not-core....to consist of mainly the same cluster of countries which made up the founders of the EU. With some assorted plus who are able and most important willing to cross-link themselves into a federation (which will probably named differently too).

We will know the answer 10 years from now when Berlin and Paris are begging London to save them

From what?

Maybe the EU is more a continental thing...it was founded without London after all....

(But I expect totally the EU federation football team to beat the english team!!! :) After all wie would have the best Spaniards, Portugese, Dutch, French or German players and trainers!!!
Bratwurst Boy   
4 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

Big empires

Big Empires had exactly ONE top dog, Milo! Big difference :)

Unions are the next step...the industry is only the beginning. Most big players play globally and are multi-national by now...that is the future.

You don't want to play that game? You will fall behind...that's the alternative!

The EU doesn't have to be like Borg

Agreed!

The "one blanket" approach worked well in the beginning, for a culturally close core....but with so many so different members it's not possible anymore...and it doesn't has to.

Thing is that from Poland come mixed messages...they WANT to belong to this "core" but would still rather prefer the economical club, that's why they are fighting the idea of an "EU of different speeds" as it is also sometimes called...that is a question which Poland needs to find a solution for in the coming years...

A huge old dinosaur

Heh:) In the age of globalism the EU is the most modern thing in Europe! :)

Nationalism and national states acting only alone by itself are the "huge old dinosaur" here...in the same way horses had been at the dawn of the automobile!

But they are known and trusted and you know how to handle your horse and that "new thing" is still so strange...and so loud...and stinks....and get's people killed! And why the heck would people need to go so fast from point a to point b? Nobody needs that! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
4 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

And most Europeans are so blind that they don't see it!

They hear it but they know it's crap!

There is no world conspiracy of a powerful circle (mostly Jews of course) do steer the poor unsuspecting sheep into their direction....there just isn't!

You can fight against globalism's most unregulated features as you want and it would be good fight...but to fight globalism is like fighting the Internet, industrial revolution..or the printing machine....or the car...or the electricity...or even earlier the wheel.

It's the next step in our technological development! Alone it's possibilities is changing the world we are living in...it enables people and goods and ideas to wander in a till now unknown scale.

And during all aforementioned ages and developments there had been those who where scared and wished the "new stuff" away and the old times back...to no avail.

People will mix, borders will become less important, national states will grow into bigger unions...but that is a process we only see the beginning...our children and grand children will see it fully come to pass, but for them it will be a reality...nothing to be scared about. They don't know any differently anymore...

To say people are blind to that is wrong, most just come to different conclusions!

To make it all "go away" can only mean isolation, closed borders, only controlled contact with the outside world, censored internet etc....most people just don't want THAT (if they are given a choice)!

PS: Globalism is in no way neo-marxist (whatever that is)....it means foremost profit for those who seek lower labor costs and higher profits.

Also the EU's abject refusal to clearly identify its own nature. International organization? Confederacy? Federation in the making?

Because it's not "the EU" which decides about that, it's the members who struggle to clear that up because...*gulp*...there are many different opinions about that!

(Can you believe it! No allmighty mastermind behind all that!!!)

There are those who want a closer circle to develop into a federation...and there are those who don't want to....who would like to keep it as an economical club mainly.

I personally think those who want to cooperate more closely should do so and those who don't want to can stay out...and it seems that is the direction "the EU" will go in the end.

That's why the principle of unanimity was all but scrapped (after the Brexit referendum) only for those most important questions (like taking in new members and such). Now common projects can be worked on together by those who want to take part, whereas others can abstain.... In the long run it will lead to differently strong networks inside the Union.
Bratwurst Boy   
4 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

Maybe such kind of critics don't criticize the EU so much as rather Germany....and Germany's role in the EU. They are just germanophobic!

(As some Brexiters like to say: "We won 2 World Wars why are they ruling us now, dammit!!!")

I wonder if the EU would be more palatable to them if Germany would just leave?

But where would that leave Germany?
Bratwurst Boy   
4 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

She is the Supreme Chancellor of the German Fourth Reich,

....yeah....but she will probably gone next year....(not quite voluntarily if the current gov coalition breaks up)....what then?

Who will become your next boogeyman?

Does it have to be a German???

That's what I really don't get about the EU critics - can't they get their criticism (sometimes justified) across without resorting to such nonsense?

A question of mine too!

If you go by such critics the EU can't be that bad....
Bratwurst Boy   
4 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

I doubt there is such a thing as "100% benign"...it's always about how to get the most advantages out of something. And right now the EU and also the liberal market economy + democracy is our best bet...it keeps more people quite comfortable than any other known alternatives..

So...till the critics come up with a better concept I keep (and fight for) what enables me to live a reasonable free, self-determined, well off, peaceful and secure life, thank you!

(The alternatives I know of and have lived through all suck compared to what we have)
Bratwurst Boy   
3 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

Apart of that, out of 27 members there are those who have more to say than the others

And you know why they have more "say"? Better networking....being longer member still helps too....they are net payer....taking over responsibilities...that all Poland could do too...SHOULD too, instead of pouting in a corner and throwing tantrums....THAT won't gain you any support aka influence at all.

A union is for teamplayers!

"Vassals"....interesting choice of words for members who have all the same rights and duties...

What do you think will happen to Poland outside the EU? With a Poland which nobody gives a sh'it about...sure, you would have alot less duties, but alot less rights too and no vote at all.

You think of the union members as vassals? That's the future for Poland alone...you WILL become another ones vassal...again...all you will be able to do is saying THANK YOU to the few crumbs falling from the table of the big guys.

I have news for you, if you don't "make it" inside the EU, where you sit as equal on the table, you won't make it at all outside!

Poland, pay with your culture and your traditions

Did you? If so that has totally gone lost on me...and I apologize!
Bratwurst Boy   
3 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

We have to protect ourselves from a destructive and demoralizing ideological side of the EU....

You know that the EU consists of 27 totally different members (after Brexit), don't you?

Is it Poland against all other 26 member states? Are they all following a destructive and demoralizing ideological side?

Don't you think that protection would work better from INSIDE the EU? Changing things for the better through smart networking and policing?

What exactly do you mean when you shout such easy slogans?

I mean do you really think the advantages of the Single Market will come by so easily for Poland? Without compromising and paying for that privilege?
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

Not being able to match economical prowess with an with appriopate cultural influence is a big problem. For everyone involved.

Why now?

It seems Poland does alot to keep it that way purposely...the WWII is never far from the polish mind...the Pole of today must be always stay alert...against an over mighty Germany and the big russian bear, isn't that so Iron?

Where should the sympathy or interest come from with such a mindset?

PS: I bet I was the first German you ever had a long(er) standing contact and talks with...usually your knowledge of Germany comes from history teachings, am I right?
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

As someone pointed out Germany have no soft power to go with their economical influence and that is a problem, a big F problem.

I'm sure that if Germany would have any more soft power alot of Poles on PF would complain about a "take over"....

The same way parents all over Europe complain about their kids preferring english language, english songs, english movies, english fashion...at the same time "forgetting" or purposely ignoring about old national traditions etc....:)

Just imagine the polish/german teenagers running around in Nike's, with the jeans hanging down to the knees, listening to that black rapper, speaking some kind of ghetto-slang and believing themselves to be sooo cool...

Is that this "soft power" you mean?

Thing is the Brits don't have their culture and their language for their own anymore...in every country it gets bastardized and mixed and changes....
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

We are not talking about immigration or assimilation but about attractiveness of the German culture to an average Polish person.

Maybe a question of definition....people decide with their feet, they always have...and in that regard the direction of Poles is clear....it doesn't have to be about beer or Beethoven...they have come for centuries, still come, settle, learn German, work and live here...immigrate/assimilate...give birth to a new generation of GerPoles... or only stay for awhile...

I don't know exactly what you actually mean...so, be a grump! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jan 2020
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

...maybe interesting for this thread....

The first new year baby was born in Frankfurt...at 0.02. a little Jakub....son of polish parents Michal and Izabella...
He is in the running for Germany's fastest baby! :)

bild.de/regional/frankfurt/frankfurt-aktuell/frankfurt-geboren-um-0-02-uhr-herzlich-willkommen-kleiner-jakub-67028874.bild.html

The reality of the EU flies full in the face of all these quite theoretical visions....

Happy Birthday! :)

PS: Iron, the parents want to build a house there....I'm sure little Jakub will grow up fully appreciating what Germany has to offer! ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
31 Dec 2019
News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

I think the "EU Army" project was meant to help quell citizen unrest

Like the british army does in Britain?

"....There is a long history of soldiers being used to put down civil unrest or subdue public disorder on home soil. This has sometimes been very unpopular, especially when soldiers have turned their weapons on civilians...."

nam.ac.uk/explore/civil-enforcement

Like actually EVERY army if they are needed?

PS: They should help with terror attacks, securing big events and helping out in the case of natural disasters too...oh and fighting against any outside agression of course...

Oh wait...since the EU is a Gulag you expect them to be our jailers, right? Riiiiiight!

German culture is not attractive to Polish people at all, or any people other than Austrian maybe.

You know that Poles have a history of flocking to Germany for centuries? Hell, every second Berliner has a "ski" in his name...half of the Ruhr population is of polish heritage...

How can you ignore all that???