News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


Yeaaaah.....nope!

Prussian heritage is goooood!!! :)

Not to forget it has been a repeated famous promise everybody knew of by the West for the East for as long as this division did go on...to start the re-unification with a broken promise would had been a bad start!

And why Frankfurt/Main? There is no other city in Germany which embodies the cold hard money more...is that enough for a capital? Would that be a good emphasis for the new Germany?

Dresden would had been better...all beautiful Gloria...a rich history....

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


Agreed!

One must'n forget that...

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


Especially as it would be made for and with the two halves now....East-Germans just got "added" to the western Basic Law...it's nothing they have been really part of.


It probably wouldn't nor shouldn't be much different...but it would be a nice gesture to take the amount of time and effort...

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


Do you really care about the numbers? Why is that important? Does a million less victims really lessens the atrocity for the rest?

And shouldn't a real Jew-hater like you not be proud of that and be happy with a high number? Why are you trying to talk it down?

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

In the GDR we called them just snitches....there were alot of them...

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


.....well....that is history!

Now it's the other way around..."Drang nach Westen"! Everybody and his grandmom wants to come to Germany!

News / First Coronavirus case in Poland? [30]

eeeew

The cases in Germany had been Chinese too...they should think of quarantining them the moment they leave a plane...all of them!

News / Poland economy is a financially drained economy of suppliers? [33]


I'm all for it, as it means the personal get's to keep the jobs and bread on the table....who cares which corporation profits from it (as long as it isn't Chinese, but I said that already:)


Yeah...well...that with North Stream develops slowly into a puzzle...nearly all in Germany are now against it...but Merkel! She keeps defending it...

*shrugs*

News / Poland economy is a financially drained economy of suppliers? [33]


Once China's economy isn't used by the chinese communist party for economical and political gains anymore I won't complain anylonger.

But as it is it's the age of the foundation and building of economical/political blocs and I would prefer Europe on top, thank you very much.

And that's also one of the reasons why the idea of Poland alone is so fruitless and senseless when the big blocs will divide the world between themselves. The idea that Poland could play an important role outside the EU, that it would have a voice which would count for anything is ridiculous.

For you and for Germany and all other european countries is the EU the only chance to be seen as equals, to still play a role in this new world. To wish for it's destruction is like the end of the once proud polish Commonwealth because of inner polish squabbles all over again. Only this time it wouldn't only be Poland that would be partitioned by the smarter unified victors!

And this is also the reason why the EU, no matter the inner squabbles, will prevail...there are today more sane politicians around than in Poland back then...


Could it be that you took the german take over of polish firms also as "crushing defeats"? Was that Grünwald and the partitions and the world wars all over again for you? Was that hurting your self-esteem? Is that the reason you begrudge the Germans it's economical power?

Is that it? Is that all? Is that the reason why you want Poland out of the EU? Why you want to destroy the EU? It would explain so much!

My my my...Spikey...I have good news for you...in the future that will happen more and more. The more Poland rises up economically, the more money will be available and the more the polish economy gets connected to the other european economies the more often such deals will be made, all over Europe!

But that also is bad news for a Polexit....because the longer Poland stays in the EU and the more it get's interconnected inside the EU the higher would be the losses by a Polexit, especially the soon to be polish economical fat cats will not support you...they don't want their money cut by politics.

The money is globalist in the first place!

News / Poland economy is a financially drained economy of suppliers? [33]

Heh:) Totally missed that.... *get's red faced and follows Torqi out*

News / Poland economy is a financially drained economy of suppliers? [33]

So what!

If the jobs are secured, who cares...but better it be Poles than Chinese...I'm pro-Europe!

News / Poland economy is a financially drained economy of suppliers? [33]

Condor still has to pay the millions back it got from the german gov to help it survive (and so to secure the jobs) after the disaster that was Thomas Cook....or has LOT now to pay the money back?

dw.com/en/germany-condor-to-keep-flying-thanks-to-government-loan/a-50572138

Ah...update....found it:


reuters.com/article/us-thomas-cook-condor-sale-lot/polish-carrier-lot-acquires-german-airline-condor-idUSKBN1ZN0OA

Nice!

I had to smile at this one though:

...Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki, whose cabinet is nationalist, told a news conference on Friday: "Up until now foreign companies have been taking over Polish precious assets, now it is the other way round!" ....

Well...that's called Globalism! It wasn't an anti-polish invention by them EU neo-marxists!!! :):):)

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


I would never want to become a Japanese...I would stay a German in Japan! :)

I can import my Bratwurst!!!

But yes, my dream cottage (no longer a hut) at the baltic sea is still also an open option....

*goes thinking about that some more...with a beer or two....*

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

But that is not natural! I would like to live in Japan...I would still cheer for the german Mannschaft! Even from afar...maybe especially from afar as some dreary truths get rosy tinted over so far away....

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Yeah...well....they come on their own....and most are actually still other EU members....but that source is drying up now slowly...


Or we just shrink to a sustainable level (Berlin is just to full already!)...but to keep our living standard we either need humans or robots!

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

...since demography is pointing downwards in all western countries (also the WWII victors) it points to something socially and/or physiologically and not politically.

More and more women want to have a life now and also the quality and quantity of male spermatozoes are declining (probably because of environmental and food toxins)....

*shrugs*

PS: Since to many people is one of the worst ecological problems a declining population shouldn't be so bad...once we have so much digitalization in place to supplant the lacking work force with computers...or we keep on importing the workers in masses as we do now...

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


So, you are one of the "no-borders" kind?

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Maybe....but people sometimes don't work like that...as in rational...pragmatic...chosing what's best....

There was a saying in East-Germany back then:

"Wenn die D-Mark nicht zu uns kommt gehen wir zu ihr!" ("If the D-Mark doesn't come to us we go to her!")

Kohl never really had a chance to do things otherwise...also with hindsight.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


I see it differently....wandering comes natural to people, especially the young ones. Not wandering means staying with mom and dad forever...no curiousity for the the world and it's possibilities at all. These people exist, but most move at least once!

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Cut from what???


But still Esken blathers again from socialism as goal...*epic eye roll*

*takes helmet and wanders grumbling off*

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Well...Ossis had a good comparison in Hungary, the socialist brother country...every holiday in Budapest was a little bit like in the West TV. And then you had to come back to the dreary, grey, stinking, detoriating East-Berlin with nearly empty shops and only a few kinds of cars on the streets...if that wasn't enforced austerity than what is?

Not at least that for starting reforms you have to admit that things are just not working...but the news paper told every day only about victories on the proletarian front!


He and all his standing ovations clapper in the Zentralkommittee...even today I could vomit hearing that kind of rythmic steady applause...

PS: Of course that austerity was only so bad for these poor chaps without any D-Mark or contacts in the West who could help out with packages...or Party fat cats with connections...

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

...well...everybody has his dreams, I guess....

But now back to the real world!

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Yeah..but what? What do you see as necessary services?

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


You mean these little hippie villages where they try to live the communist dream with sunflowers in the hair?

Okay...honest question....imagine from tomorrow morning on all taxes are voluntary...what would you give? And for what?

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Yeah....but if that's the rule then you can close down the nation!

If it's everybody for his own then there is no nation anymore....there is only a weak government and the rule of the one who can buy the most with his money.

That is diametral to your wish of a strong independent Poland. There would be a few rich and influential Poles with alot of weak, dependent Poles and no state which could do anything, especially concerning foreign powers.

They would actually do their thing with the powerful Poles...there would be no strong army...no strong security....the infrastructure would be destroyed in time and the country would be wide open for any foreigner.

Did you really did think it through what a weak gov means? And a gov without enough tax money is weak...it is a starving gov.

Maybe you personally would be one of the lucky ones and you could save alot of tax money, and maybe it would even be enough to pay for your own security forces prowling around around your fenced in house and the doctor when you need one, but the land you would be living in would be very instable and violent...and your country would have not much of a voice.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Shouldn't the german tax payer say that????

Heh:)

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

Yeah...and I'm not an expert on THAT! ;)

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

Honecker surely was...

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


PS: I'm not sure what you mean by this....after all Germany isn't a socialist country....and just today the very capitalist DAX index thrived to new heights...

finance.yahoo.com/news/stocks-dax-hits-record-high-032900637.html

Recently the state reached another income-record....it's so much that there are discussions now about what to do with all the money...so...that doesn't look like an impending collapse of the country because of the welfare costs.


...It is the third time in the last five years that Europe's largest economy closed the year with a budget surplus. The 2019 surplus overtook a 2015 budget surplus of €12.1 billion.....

dw.com/en/germany-posts-record-breaking-budget-surplus/a-51991140

Something doesn't add up here....

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


"Freshly off boat" they live in a "Flüchtlingsheim" which is paid for be the state (also by me)....there they are housed and fed as long as the bureaucracy does it's thing and decides about their future status.

A regular EU-citizen does not. He is free to fight with everybody else for an apartement....


What promoting? It isn't exactly a secret...