Life / I love Poland, but... [53]


lol Strzelec35, if I reported you for every abuse and lie you write about me when you have one of your meltdowns, you would be long suspended by now.

I don't have time to go through all of your crap, but here's one of the comments in which you wrote what great business human-trafficking of girls would be:

https://polishforums.com/archives/2010-2019/life/poland-last-bastion-europe-81842/#msg1606383

"by the way have you guys ever heard of the mafia smuggling girls and making p0rn sites? i wonder if pruszkow was wlwo involved along with the ukraińians or if there are any groups involved with this great trade? i think there is a lot of money to be made"


Mods?

Life / I love Poland, but... [53]


Then I hope next time you'll think more about what you're suggesting and to whom.


That's irrelevant considering Strzelec35 isn't a university employee.

Life / I love Poland, but... [53]

@jon357, we're not talking here about your friend or your friend's wife, but about suggesting Thailand or Cambodia to a man convicted of grooming a 12-year-old girl on the internet, a guy who was fantasising on this forum about joining a human-trafficking ring that would bring Asian girls to Poland for sexual exploitation, so, please, don't behave as if you were born yesterday, because that's not funny, tbh...

Life / I love Poland, but... [53]


She's Polish and she was complaining about Polish TV in another thread so I'm guessing she was born and lives in Poland.


Yes, it is. It's common knowledge. And you suggesting countries like Thailand or Cambodia to someone like Strzelec35 looks creepy, tbh...

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


You're being very generous here...


"Probably"? Do you think Rich had bad experiences also with Jews, blacks, Mexicans, liberals, dogs and pink aliens from Venus? lol He has often a general problem with empathy and understanding other people. I think he's simply a sociopath (and I'm guessing that his sociopathy was triggered by bad childhood, because that's how it usually happens). And Poloniusz... He seems to be even worse than Rich.


Sorry, maf, we're a bit too busy with fighting off an invasion of misogynists and you aren't helping us either. I'll try to respond to your comments, when I have more time though.

@Lenka, allegedly Rich has three daughters - I really admire them if they managed to remain sane (I guess they're alive so they didn't kill themselves)...

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


Atch, have mercy! ;D I'm honestly starting to get tears in my eyes from laughing! lol


Ah, I see... Sorry then, I didn't mean to come off as patronizing or anything of this sort, that wasn't my intention. I was being sincere :) Btw, when you lived in Norway did you date only Norwegian women or also Polish (if you don't mind me asking)?


I know how you feel, it's really off-putting - for me too. I often don't feel like taking part in a discussion or initiating any because of them. Or even writing on this forum at all...


I didn't write that I hate anyone personally, I simply stated a simple fact. The greatest creeps on here aren't writing about "femi-Nazis" or even "feminists" in their hateful comments. They're writing their prejudiced comments full of disdain about women in general. They're women-haters. Women read their comments and may draw conclusions. Hate may induce hate. Such are the repercussions. Sometimes I wonder, for example, whether Poloniusz and Rich by writing their comments want to make us hate them as much as they hate us and view them with as much prejudice and disdain as they view us, women. Is it their goal? Or maybe they have no goal at all and it's just as pawian wrote - they simply can't contain all their filth inside their dark, hateful souls, because there's just so much of that poison that they would explode...

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

@Lenka, yes, exactly, that's why I took that photo - because I liked it a lot too :))) I think it's inspired by the empire style.

@gumishu, it's a wedding dress, you silly :P It's not meant for walks in the woods... lol

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]


Yes, well done, that's exactly it! :)) It was a big wedding fair at Targi Kielce, with all the stuff needed for organising a wedding (plus a fashion show with the catwalk):

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@jon357, yes, it wasn't in Poznań :)

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

@Chemikiem, yes, those are wedding dresses, they're brand new (or at least were when I took that photo lol) and it's part of an exhibition! :)) But where?

Love / Incels in Poland [299]

@Novichok, there's nothing patronizing about what I wrote, I sincerely like the guy and I'm impressed with him, because I know a bit of his story. I wish him well and I hope he'll find himself a girl as nice and as decent as he is.

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


Wasn't it you who claimed that men "always" marry down and women marry up? If that's the case then where's the "delusion"? Those women apparently know by experience of other women that they can marry "successful men" if they're attractive enough. And if you're into "successful women" so much, then you should be all for feminism, women getting education, well paid jobs, etc. :)

Love / Incels in Poland [299]


I'm not sure why you think that... Sure that many women would want to be with "top notch males", just like many men would like to be with "top notch females", but in the end most people settle for what they can get... That's life.


Oh, don't worry, Grunni, you sound like a very nice and decent man, I think you'll have no problem with finding a wife in Poland :) Maybe she will even find you ;) And, btw, there's a Polish saying: "Za mundurem panny sznurem" ;))


This is so true. At least for Poland... I'm always honestly amazed when I see American men on PF (or elsewhere) complaining about them not getting custody of the kids after a divorce or the British men complaining that it's always Polish women being given the custody of kids by Polish courts. They're clearly out of touch with Polish reality. Since when men want to take care of kids? lol They don't want to do that when they're married and they suddenly wake up after divorce and they discover that they're a parent too? lol Wow... Please...


I'd like to know that too :) Btw, women don't need feminism to hate men. All we need are men like Poloniusz, Novichok, Strzelec35, Joker, cruisepatron or johnny_reb for that.

@cruisepatron, why do you laugh? Men can have fun before they get married, but women can't?

Life / Paintings of artists from Poland? [192]


I really like this painting, very Art Nouveau (I like this period in art) :)


That's cool - props to him! I think we were thaught about it at highschool...

Jon357, what is the technique that Robert Olszowski's piece is painted with?

Btw, Stanisław Masłowski's father took part in the January Uprising as the head of the Chęciny district - he was arrested for that in 1864 and he spent six months in prison in Kielce.

I quite like some of the still life by a contemporary artist Edward Szutter (there's some painting process included in that link):

artystaisztuka.pl/art/edward-szutter/

A lot of it is quite kitschy, but I must admit that I even like kitsch when it's well done :) And his paintings are very well done - he has a very good traditional painting technique and his pieces are pleasant to look at.

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]


Yeah, I'm already lost for words (of awe and praise)! ;D If Chemikiem was a police detective she'd probably solve every case :))

Next riddle :)

What is it, what is it all about and where?

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I think he would be proud ;) Chemikiem is simply brilliant :)))


Yes, it is! It's educational even to Poles born and raised in Poland, I dare say :)


Once a teacher, always a teacher :))

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

I liked that band...


Hmm, no idea... Was is the song "Radio Free Europe"?

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]


Do you mean American band R.E.M.?

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]

@Chemikiem, yes, bingo! Well done :D
Johnny_reb did well too :)

juraparkbaltow.pl/en/

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]


Nope!


You got that part right :) But where exactly?


Yes, it's in an outdoor dinosaur park! But it isn't in Krasiejów :)

Life / Pączki Day--do Dunkin Donuts or Krispy Kreme count? [39]


You could try those sugar-free places:

slodkibez.pl/

sugarfree.com.pl/

Travel / Poland in photo riddles - part 2 [1680]


Yes!! I was about to give another hint, but you've guessed it before that, yay :D


Yes, it was a small museum with fossils, but it was just part of a bigger complex. Can anyone guess what kind of complex it is and where?


Yup! :D The egg probably belonged to Saurolophus, was found in China and comes from the Late Cretaceous period.

The whole photo:

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@Ziemowit, to make things more complicated this lake is part of a cluster of lakes also called "Mamry" - which is plural... According to prof. Miodek the name "Mamry" comes from an old Prussian word for "mud".

@jon357, wow, I don't think I would've guessed it...

@Chemikiem, it's not made of baked sand or clay - you were right before - it's "made" of stone, but it's not man-made. As I wrote at the beginning when I posted the riddles - both the Bieszczady riddle and this one are nature-related :) But it's not just a rock - it's more than that.

News / Previous Poland's government corrupting the media. [125]


If they didn't fulfill that promise (and the one about earlier retirement) they would be quickly kicked out - that was their main kiełbasa wyborcza. My grandma voted for PiS because of that earlier retirement promise - so my parents wouldn't have to work longer.

And you still didn't answer me what you think about 500+ for rich people :) What do you think about it?


Sorry, but why do keep coming back to the past? We live here and now. PiS is screwing up now - not PO, PSL or SLD. Even if, let's say, previous governments weren't trustworthy then PiS being the same or worse is somehow OK? Where is that "good change"?

News / Previous Poland's government corrupting the media. [125]


Try to quote people properly then :P


It isn't any manipulation - it's a pre-emptive action. Private media in Poland aren't stiffled - yet.This tax hasn't been passed yet. Do you remember the first women's protests concerning abortion during PiS rule? At that time PiS claimed that they have no plans to change the Poland's "abortion consensus", that it's just some nutcases that proposed the changes, that the protesters are exaggerating, blowing things out of proportion, PiS supporters claimed that it's anti-PiS hysteria, etc. And what turned out? That PiS changed the "abortion consensus" after all and the protesters knew what they were doing back then by taking it to the streets.

We've simply learned to expect the worst from PiS - they can't be trusted. And it's based on experience.

News / Previous Poland's government corrupting the media. [125]


No, not always, there was even one PiS' politician that I actually liked (Past Simple) - Tadeusz Cymański... But after watching one interview with him (after PiS came to power) I realised that even he has authoritarian tendencies and has a peculiar attitude to the rule of law. That was very disappointing and scary, to be honest... And anyway, you don't exactly love PO either, do you? :)))


Posting an open letter to the government on their sites for one day (and losing money from ads as result) is "an attack"? Wow, how "terrible" lol

News / Previous Poland's government corrupting the media. [125]


Gumishu, you're clearly a hardcore PiS supporter, so it's natural that you'd think that. I think you're the one who's biased. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

But what do you think about giving 500+ to rich people? Have you read those articles I linked to?


This whole tax is political (anti-non state media) and zwyczajne zdzierstwo too.


Exactly.

News / Previous Poland's government corrupting the media. [125]


She is (or was, not sure about now) pro-PiS - I even noticed that, not only my parents, gumishu.


But it was hit, and there's a freaking pandemic, businesses need help, so why instead of burdening private media with another tax (they're hiring many people too, you know) PiS won't cut the social spending - why don't they give 500+ only to those who really need it? I mean, that would be the sane, decent thing to do, for God's sake...

Btw, Poland was among the least hit during the crisis that delph mentioned and during the present crisis:

goldenmark.com/pl/mysaver/zielona-wyspa-kryzys-subprime-w-polsce/

News / Previous Poland's government corrupting the media. [125]


OMG, you're right, I thought they changed that! PiS is more stupid than I thought:

spidersweb.pl/bizblog/500-budzet-bogaci-polacy/

finanse.wp.pl/500-nie-dla-bogatych-polacy-nie-chca-powszechnego-swiadczenia-6356747862022273a

(the title says: "No for the rich. Poles don't want 500+ for everyone")

Unbelievable...


One doesn't need to listen to Rostowski or live in an information bubble - all you need is to live in Poland and have a working brain. Do you know who Teresa Czerwińska is? She was the Minister of Finance in the first cabinet of Mateusz Morawiecki in years 2018-2019. She also wasn't, to put it midly, a supporter of all of those PiS's social handouts. She said that there are going to be money for that in short term, but in the long term it's going to be a serious problem. So she got dismissed:

newsweek.pl/polska/teresa-czerwinska-odwolana-z-rzadu-trafi-do-nbp/2rdcjqf


It used to be objective - at one point my parents preferred it to watching TVN for this reason. I'm not prejudiced, I barely ever watch Polsat's news, I'm basing it on what my parents said, on some of my own observations and the general opinion which Polsat and Solorz have on the Polish internet. My parents have been watching all kinds of TV news channels for years, they're news maniacs lol, so they know what they're talking about.

And even if Polsat is just trying to be objective - then why are they taking part in the media protest if the new tax isn't an issue?


During the PiS rule in the years 2016-18 (just two years) Poland's debt rose by 110 billion PLN:

businessinsider.com.pl/finanse/makroekonomia/zadluzenie-polski-opinia-prof-dariusza-filara/47bkj9j?utm_source=detal_viasg_businessinsider&utm_medium=synergy&utm_campaign=allonet_detal_popularne&srcc=ucs&utm_v=2

The budget's deficit for 2020 is supposed to be 90 billion PLN:

bankier.pl/wiadomosc/Deficyt-za-2020-rok-wyniesie-90-mld-zl-Ministerstwo-Finansow-przedstawilo-wstepne-szacunki-8034693.html

Gumishu, Poland has been developing for years since the fall of communism, you can't say that Poland's economic boom somehow happened suddenly only thanks to VAT revenues... lol

News / Previous Poland's government corrupting the media. [125]


I don't remember anything like that either, but the Western media don't have to stage such protests... And such protests make sense only at the beginning when the independent media are influential enough in the country... In Russia, for example, nie ma już czego zbierać... I remember that at one point the only independent channel was Dozhd and it got evicted and ended up being forced to air on the internet:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dozhd

The only independent media that I know that is left is private radio station "Echo of Moscow". I don't know what's their situation nowadays but they already got one Roskomnadzor warning during the annexation of Crimea in 2014 (a radio station can be closed down if it receives two Roskomnadzor warnings in one year).

I don't know about Hungary, but imagine that if a similar protest would take place in Belarus probably not many people would notice, just like in Russia...


At one point I vouched to myself not to write about my personal/romantic life on this forum, so I won't answer the first part of your question. As far as the second part is concerned - I knew from the beginning that 500+ was a mistake that Poland can't afford and that it will bite us in the ass. I just didn't realise how hard it will bite us. At first they were giving away those money to anyone who had one child, no matter the income, btw. All those money that were given away, and all those money given to TVP and to "father" Rydzyk, etc. could be used nowadays to aid the health care and to help all the businesses struggling due to pandemic. PiS was too stupid and short sighted to realise we're not freaking Sweden. Buying votes, power - those were more important for them than the future of the country.

And I wouldn't trade democracy in my country, the rule of law, independent judiciary, free media, etc. for 500 PLN once a month, sorry.

I stand by what I wrote - I HATE those irresponsible, power-hungry morons. It's always the ordinary people who are paying for the mistakes of such people in power. The politicians are great at giving themselves raises even during the pandemic, in case you haven't heard... They won't be the ones to go hungry...


Indeed...


No, it isn't. And if it isn't such a problem then why even Polsat, which is pro-PiS nowadays, is taking part in the blackout? Their main channel Polsat and some others from their offer are blacked out all day.

Also:
bbc.com/news/world-europe-56007942

"Recently, Poland's largest state-controlled oil refiner, PKN Orlen, said it was buying the country's leading regional media company, Polska Press, from its German owners, saying it makes sound business sense."

"In their open letter, the private media companies said that while they faced $270m in additional costs because of the levy, public media received twice as much a year from taxpayers."

Btw, after the last presidential election in which the opposition candidate got almost half of the votes, Kaczyński told his party that he's disappointed with the result and that those Poles who didn't vote for Duda should be persuaded that PiS is the right political option. Many wondered if it means that the independent media are going to be targeted...

I don't think this tax will kill off the big stations, but it probably will do that to the smaller ones, local radio stations, etc.

Gumishu, why don't you read the open letter of the private Polish media (you know Polish, right?)? This is a local newspaper in my region - it's been around since I can remember - they're taking part in the protest too (the content of the open letter is the same in all the private media who are taking part):

echodnia.eu/swietokrzyskie/