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Standard Croatian is based on shtokavian and many Croats I know would not for a second accept it as "Serbian".
If they are from Zagreb, Krizveci or Varazdin, they are from real ethnic Croatia. Yes, even there Croats heavily mixed with Serbians, so that every single one of them in itself have more Serbian blood then he have Croat blood. But, now is the time that he deny that. Tomorrow he will eventually but, God forbid, we don`t need them.
But Crow has an infantile mentality that cannot conceive of any other world view but his own
No. Crow is an idiot sinner who giving best pearls to pig like you. Its a sin in itself.
The idea that Croatians have their own story simply doesn't occur to him, it's all land to be reclaimed for Mother Serbia (
Serbia never even got a chance. Dissolution of Yugoslavia was deal that needed to create Greater Croatia and Greater Albania. Rest is EU and NATO powers propaganda. It was never allowed to Serbians to unite their ethnic space. It is so because Serbs are stubborn Slavs. Its our punishment. So, it warms my heart to see that Catholic Serbians starting to rebel in what is now Greater Croatia. there is the God, after all.
Croats do have their story. They were small ethos between Slovenians and Serbians on one side and bordering with Austrians and Hungarians on the other side. When Turks arrived in Europe they were practically destroyed by Turkish incursions deeper in European inland. Then, their lords, in Austrian service, opened gates of their cities to the Serbians who fled from Turks and were able to offer so serious resistance. So, those Croats that still remained mixed with Serbians and accepted Serbian language like their own, abandoning Chakavian dialect what is their original speech. Today, in Zagroje you probably won`t found moire then 3.000 people who speak this dialect.
So, yes, Croats have their story. In real Croatia they are native people. Or they were natives there. You see, I do have understanding for desire of ethos to survive, even on the account of Serbians. As of Serbians didn`t pay similar price to Poles, to Russian, to Ukrainians. God knows ho many Serbs was assimilated living among fellow Slavs. So, its not the problem. It wouldn`t be problem if they wanted to assimilate number of Serbs who arrived in Croatia and even force them to speak Chakavian, in order to preserve Croatian ethos. No, it wasn`t that. Instead, their own elite, germanized, advised by Austrians, accepted Serbian language and sought opportunity to via that very same Serbian language spread its influence among all Serbian speaking people. Their first target were Catholic Serbs and then Orthodox Serbs. In their greed, using time when Serbians were weakened, pressured by the Turks and Austro-Hungaria, Croat elite started to spread influence on Dalmatia, Slavocnia, Krajina, etc, etc.
In a day before Austria annexed Dubrovnik, some 140 years ago, there was registered imagine, five (5) Catholic Croats (outsiders-, comers from Zagreb) as minor minority among rest of Catholic Serbian populace (Dubrovnik was never Orthodox- only part of Dalmatia that never was Orthodox, while rest was Eastern Roman influence; rest of Dalmatian Serbs gradually with time accepted Catholicism, forcible or by economic incentives, but genocide never happened in Dalmatia, even not in WWII, thanks to Italian and not Croatian occupation). Then, they after Austria annexed Dubrovnik, new Austrian administration registered all resistances as Croats. Serbians were erased. Yes, they sent their letters and complaints even to the Vatican but, help didn`t come. They were sold Catholics. Catholics that must stop to be Serbs and exist as Croats. It was the deal.
Kajkavian dialect or something is spoken by the people of Zagreb and further north, right?
Kajkavian is reason for another Croat dispute. This time with Catholic Slovenians. Kajkavian is by most prominent Slavic language experts dialect of Slovenian language. So, there, in Kajkavski speaking regions Croat elite tried to assimilate Slovenians.
Only Chakavian is Croatian language. Practically an extinct language.
Unlike the Serbian language or the Dalmatian dialects, their own dialect was never influenced by the Turkish or the Italian language.
Serbian language of Dalmatia was not influenced by the Turks but by the Italians, by Venetian Republic.
