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Vlad1234   
7 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

Very stable the same structure (rotten to the core) with different labels...

So, why does it mean that Russia suppose to exist in constant antagonism with NATO and start war in the case Poland and Ukraine form a confederacy under Polish leadership?
Vlad1234   
7 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

I don't understand why Russia always suppose to have some antagonistic relations with NATO/West countries. Communist Russia long gone, so why all countries on European continent just cannot find some common language?

I think Poland should

Yes, union with such a mammoth as Lithuania will certainly outweight the rest of Europe...
Vlad1234   
7 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

Vlad1234- Cause one can't simply ignore another state with nuclear capabilities

I think Russia already accepted and accustomed to the fact that Ukraine is independent and not pro-Russian. And I would be wondered to discover they have hopes it will change anytime soon. I cannot imagine Russia have hopes to install a pro-Russian president in Ukraine in the nearest decades. Western part of Ukraine will not accept it and neither Central Ukraine likely. It will mean a citizenship war. I think Russian politicians realize Ukraine is destined to gravitate toward West much stronger than toward Russia because the West is richer and more developed and therefore more seductive. Russia in its current form cannot offer a perspectives for Ukrainian development because it doesn't develop itself. But I agree that potential reaction of Russia on the subject has to be evaluated and the entire deal could be sweetened for Russia somehow. For example a guaranties could be provided that Ukraine will not host any foreign military bases and some economic agreements proposed which wouldn't exclude Russia.
Vlad1234   
7 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

Why Poland and Ukraine suppose to care about someone else mind? They are independent countries and can do what they whish within moral norms. Their combined population is around 80 mln. and joint army would be one of the largest in Europe.
Vlad1234   
7 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

it would be a far bigger smack in the face to the ex-commies&Stalin&power hungry people

if the populations of Belarus/Ukraine/Lithuania voulentarily joined Poland in one form or another.

I'm not so sure in it. Why? The vast majority of Russians aren't going to protest against it, and neither Kremlin, possibly.
Vlad1234   
6 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

Poland gets a great workforce the Ukraine economy will be raised to at least that of Poland

I tend to believe in that to a large extent. Most important thing for Ukraine is a proper govt. I can imagine something like Austro-Hungary in which Austria played the leader role.
Vlad1234   
6 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

Ukraine should become the first state of the united states of Poland

Are you serious about that? Which exactly plan of unification would you propose? Could you give some details on such a hypothetic state?
Vlad1234   
5 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

Why cant I go and live in my parents homes ?

I didn't understand what are you talking exactly, but:

About 480,000 people from Zakerzonia (west of the Curzon Line), were moved eastward to the territory which became part of Soviet Ukraine and Belarus.

Why these people just cannot return in Poland and live in their parent's homes?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_exchange_between_Poland_and_Soviet_Ukraine
Vlad1234   
5 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

In 1991 it landed in Kiev for the first time in a very long time.

Just 630 years passed since Lithuanians conquered it (1362-1991). And briefly it became a center of power in 17-th century. Not extremally long time by historical measures. Many cities in the World lost its capital-like significance for hundreds of years. For example Jerusalem.
Vlad1234   
5 Jul 2020
News / Poland's demographic, migration & fertility rate disaster [34]

Merged:

Native European and Polish fertility rates.



Policies in Hungary and Poland are aimed at boosting birthrates. But will it help arrest population decline?

"It follows neatly on from the government's relentless anti-migration message of the past five years. "In all of Europe there are fewer and fewer children, and the answer of the west to this is migration," said Orbán in his annual state of the nation address last year. "They want as many migrants to enter as there are missing kids, so that the numbers will add up. We Hungarians have a different way of thinking. Instead of just numbers, we want Hungarian children. Migration for us is surrender."

theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/04/baby-bonuses-fit-the-nationalist-agenda-but-do-they-work

"Yet despite all the investment, the jury is still out on whether these policies work. In Hungary, the fertility rate has risen from 1.23 to 1.48, though it is hard to gauge how much of that is down to specific policies. In Poland, a brief spike in births after the introduction of the 500+ policy was not sustained. "You don't expect a breakthrough in two or three years, it's going to take at least 10," said Zoltán Kovács, Orbán's spokesman."

What do you think about this? It looks like financial incentives to rise fertility rates among Poles and Hungarians are still insufficient by far. There is a surprising difference between Eastern and Western approach to the problem. Shouldn't native Europeans supposed to be recognized as "ethnicities on the verge of extinction" and there could be some financial help to rise children along the ethnical lines?
Vlad1234   
5 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

Possibly yes, they did. 51% of Lvov population were Catholic in 1921. And 63.5% spoke Polish as first language in 1931.

Does 51% of Roman Catholic population means Polish majority? Not all the Roman Catholics were ethnic Polish. There could be some Hungarians, Czechs, Slovaks, Lithuanians, Austrians among them. Even ethnic Ukrainians. If we assume that it was number of ethnic Poles who grew from 51% to 63.5% between 1921 and 1931 then it makes a surprise how quickly it grew just in 10 years. Therefore there could be a question about reliability, I think.
Vlad1234   
5 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

why are you so silent about the Ukrainian migration to Poland

What I have to say about this? Poland is forced to permit Ukrainians to enter Poland to do some dirty job because of its own population decline. But you are going to populate Lvov with Poles or with Ukrainian migrants? What use for Poland make Ukrainian migrants in this relation?
Vlad1234   
4 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

Personally I wouldn't be against mass immigration from Poland to Ukraine under condition that Poles will study Ukrainian and respect Ukrainians. Neither majority of Ukrainians, I guess. So, if the purpose to resettle Lvov with Poles, why to bring Lvov under Polish rule? No one prevents Poles move in Lvov and live there. No one prevents them built Roman Catholic churches there. Or promote Polish culture. What is the problem there?
Vlad1234   
4 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

@Ironside

Poland existed as county for 1000's of years. Ukraine from 1991.

Then which country is a Kievan Rus' descendant? Not Ukraine?
Ukrainians regarded Lvov and Chelm in 17-th century as their historical territory:
"In February 1649, during negotiations with a Polish delegation headed by Sen. Adam Kysil in Pereiaslav, Khmelnytsky declared that he was "the sole autocrat of Rus" and that he had "enough power in Ukraine, Podolia, and Volhynia... in his land and principality stretching as far as Lviv, Chełm, and Halych".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmelnytsky_Uprising
Vlad1234   
4 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

Depopulating the city and populating it with Poles?

And where they are going to take Poles for this? Return 0.5 million from UK or depopulate Polish villages? And since they can't claim just a city deep in Ukrainian territory, they have to claim surrounding areas too (to create a corridor) and find hundreds of thousands of Poles to populate these areas too and Brest as well. Unrealistic. I don't like when hate toward Ukrainians is promoted under excuse they "stole" Polish Lvov. In 1945 Poland did exchange of population with Ukraine under which 1 million of Ukrainians lost their lands in Zakerzonje region of South-Eastern Poland where they constituted, probably, a compact majority of population. Some of them lived in Chelm. Half of them had been deported to Ukraine and half in North-Western Poland on the newly recovered from Germany territories. And what if all the descendants of all those Ukrainians will demand Zakerzonje back? Ukrainians already paid a heavy price for Lvov.
Vlad1234   
3 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

Please take note that neither me or almost all of Ukrainians have territorial claims to Poland. But nonetheless:
The Polish city of Chelm:

In 981 the town, then inhabited by the Eastern Slavic tribe of Buzhans, was made a part of Kievan Rus', along with the surrounding Cherven Towns.

The town was the capital of a historical region of the Land of Chełm, administratively a part of the Ruthenian Voivodeship with the capital in Lviv (Lwów).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che%C5%82m

Why to argue whether some city is Polish or Ukrainian? Let better create Europe without borders. And unite in all the possible ways.
Vlad1234   
3 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

This data could be unreliable and I meat different claims regarding this. Official statistics in 1921-31 was done by Poles and they could intentionally exaggerate the numbers of Poles. Many Ukrainians under Polish rule were not even regarded as a citizens and had no passports. But statistics done by Austrians somewhere between 1910-1914 showed much smaller amount of Poles, no more then 1/3.
Vlad1234   
3 Jul 2020
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

What unites Poland with Lvov so strongly? Between 1771 and 2020 Lvov was under Polish rule just 20 years - in 1919-1939. Between 1771-1919 it was under Austrian rule and was known as Lemberg. Official state language was German. Neither it was founded by Poles and possibly ethnic Poles never constituted majority of population in Lvov. At least not in 20-th century. Ukrainians claim there were times when Orthodox Christians constituted majority of population in Polish cities of Chelm, Lublin and Peremyshl. Does it mean Ukrainians have to claim them back?
Vlad1234   
2 Jun 2020
History / Piłsudski, like Hitler and Stalin (according to some Lithuanians) [144]

during the Polish Lithuanian commonwealth, Ukrainians would Polanify themselves

Converting to Roman Catholicism was a larger cultural obstacle. However bydlo (the cattle) is always treated like bydlo whatever language it speaks and in whichever church it goes to pray...
Vlad1234   
24 May 2020
News / Poland GDP growth surprises on upside [32]

Polish GDP 1990 - 65,98 billion USD. Polish GDP 2004 - 255,1 billion USD. 386% growth

It makes me wonder quite much too. Especially as Poland still have almost no hi-tech sector (hardware) or robust and diversified manufacturing base. The only products with sticker "made in Poland" I saw so far were some alimentary goods. But Polish chocolate, pickled cherries and soar cabbage aren't bad, I must admit.
Vlad1234   
23 May 2020
History / What is Poles opinion on Intermarium (Międzymorze)? [188]

Think about the future! The future is green tech...

And meanwhile a new coal power plants are open in Germany!
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-13/germany-s-farewell-to-coal-complicated-by-new-uniper-plant
Vlad1234   
23 May 2020
History / What is Poles opinion on Intermarium (Międzymorze)? [188]

It seems Poles need to take parts of Ukraine back

If they will drive Ukrainians out of these lands, who will settle in? Just a few colonists from Poland? Poland experience demographic crisis and allows millions of Ukrainians come in Poland to do dirty job. Not to many Poles will want to go somewhere to do the farming.
Vlad1234   
18 May 2020
History / What is Poles opinion on Intermarium (Międzymorze)? [188]

Ukraine has both bigger population and territory than Poland.

In terms of population it gets more on even now, with loss of Crimea. So, how exactly will Intermarium countries cooperate?
Vlad1234   
18 May 2020
History / What is Poles opinion on Intermarium (Międzymorze)? [188]

Moved from

It's an English idiom which means "I wasn't being serious". It's a c*nt of a language, I know; I don't like it either.

So, which countries do you see in Intermarium? Is Ukraine one of them? I guess no one except Ukraine and possibly Belarus will agree to join a union in which Poland plays dominant role. I guess such union would be foremost helpful in the sense of economic and administrative cooperation.
Vlad1234   
16 May 2020
History / Origins of Polish Slavs [138]

Tradition. Also, Poland is a monarchy - Our Lord Jesus Christ is the king of Poland.

Do you think Jesus Christ would approve that? He said: "my kingdom isn't of this world". A crown of thorns would be more appropriate...

I was taking a pi*s, dude. Relax.

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