Nickidewbear
27 Feb 2012
Nickidewbear
22 Sep 2011
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]
łłPolonius3
Doesn't "o" actually indicate a Jewish surname? i.e., for a Yiddish (Jidisz) suffix such as in "Daniłowicz"? At least as opposed to "-czyk", it did.
łłPolonius3
WO£ODARSKI/W£ODARSKI: It could have been used by Jewish people (as every imaginable surname has been), but it isi not typcially Jewish but Russian as evidenced by the inserted 'o'.
Doesn't "o" actually indicate a Jewish surname? i.e., for a Yiddish (Jidisz) suffix such as in "Daniłowicz"? At least as opposed to "-czyk", it did.
Nickidewbear
17 Sep 2011
Genealogy / Seeking Czarniecki family members and ancestors from Lublin, also Margiewicz, Danilowicz and Andrulewicz [77]
The organizations did help me realize that Great-Great-Grandma most likely concocted "Antoni" and "Katarzyna" for generic-name coverups once she and Great-Great-Granddad converted-- unless they assimilated, which they probably did. As I had to remind one organization per their curtness:
youtube.com/watch?v=KFp5-WhQIEQ
Or could "Margie" or "Morgie" be as in "marginal", "marge" in Polish? "Margolis", though... wow, I didn't think about that. Anyway, toda for proving that I'm lo meshuga. I mean, I know that I'm a Żydówka, but nobody in the family wants to tell me. Meanwhile, could "Daniłowicz" indicate that I'm of b'nei Dan?
The organizations did help me realize that Great-Great-Grandma most likely concocted "Antoni" and "Katarzyna" for generic-name coverups once she and Great-Great-Granddad converted-- unless they assimilated, which they probably did. As I had to remind one organization per their curtness:
youtube.com/watch?v=KFp5-WhQIEQ
CZARNIECKI: toponymic nick from numerous localities called Czarna or Czarne (Blackville, Blackton, Blackly, etc.)
Or could "Margie" or "Morgie" be as in "marginal", "marge" in Polish? "Margolis", though... wow, I didn't think about that. Anyway, toda for proving that I'm lo meshuga. I mean, I know that I'm a Żydówka, but nobody in the family wants to tell me. Meanwhile, could "Daniłowicz" indicate that I'm of b'nei Dan?
Nickidewbear
21 Aug 2011
History / Poles should emulate Jews? [153]
Dwarim (Dvarim) 9:4-21 speaks to this very issue.
I admit I personally feel resentful about what I sometimes see as Jewish pushiness and exclusivist, including various anti-Polish attitudes.
Dwarim (Dvarim) 9:4-21 speaks to this very issue.
Nickidewbear
21 Aug 2011
USA, Canada / What do Poles think about drinking raw milk? In America, unpasteurized milk is PROHIBITED. [49]
Unpasturized milk isn't prohibited for private use and consumption-- i.e., if you own a farm, diary, etc. and drink the milk yourself. I unfortunately have an acquaintance who drinks unpasturized milk.
Unpasturized milk isn't prohibited for private use and consumption-- i.e., if you own a farm, diary, etc. and drink the milk yourself. I unfortunately have an acquaintance who drinks unpasturized milk.
Nickidewbear
20 Aug 2011
Love / How do Polish boys feel about foreign girls? [163]
And if you're an Ashkenazic Jew from Poland, chalilah o b'tzlacha-- it doesn't happen or you're out of luck! My Lipsk nad Biebrzą-born Anusi great-granddad learned the hard way when his Bose-born ima Anusi'ah, Aleksjondria Alicja Andrulewicza Chernetska, almost sent my American, Slovakian-Polish-American-born great-grandma to the mental institution. Long story short, he got Mary M. Trudniak of Ashley, PA pregnant and chalilah that he would marry that Kacwiner's daughter (Her dad was born in Kacwin as, as far as we know, a goy m'Slavavakh.).
I think it's more common for PL girls to date non-polish guys than for PL guys to date non-polish girls.
And if you're an Ashkenazic Jew from Poland, chalilah o b'tzlacha-- it doesn't happen or you're out of luck! My Lipsk nad Biebrzą-born Anusi great-granddad learned the hard way when his Bose-born ima Anusi'ah, Aleksjondria Alicja Andrulewicza Chernetska, almost sent my American, Slovakian-Polish-American-born great-grandma to the mental institution. Long story short, he got Mary M. Trudniak of Ashley, PA pregnant and chalilah that he would marry that Kacwiner's daughter (Her dad was born in Kacwin as, as far as we know, a goy m'Slavavakh.).
Nickidewbear
20 Aug 2011
Genealogy / Seeking Czarniecki family members and ancestors from Lublin, also Margiewicz, Danilowicz and Andrulewicz [77]
castellenator
Long overdue reply, but Lipsko is Lipsk nad Biebrzą; and we're not related to that repugnant Anti Semite Stefan Czarniecki (or at least I hope not). But if Stefan Czarniecki was a Self-Hating Jew, yemach shemo!
Corrections to the previous list (as a Jew who was pretty left on my own with an exception of the help of a few relatives to help me figure out my heritage, I've learned some things since 2009):
Alexjondra Aliza Andrulewicza Czarniecka; who later changed her name to Alexandria (also "Alexandra" and "Alexanderia") Alice Andrulewicz (also "Andrulevich") Czarn(i)ecki, and was the daughter of Antoni "Anthony" Andrulewicz of Katarzyna "Katherine" MorgiewiczaAndrulewicza. Born on June 26, 1882; she immigrated from Suwałki to Ellis Island, settling in Sugar Notch, Pennsylvania. She died on April 6, 1936 and was buried on April 8, 1936.
Julian Jan "Felix" Chernetski(December 24, 1876 - September 11, 1922), my great-great-granddad Czarnecki. Great-Great-Granddad was the son of Antoni and Katarzyna Daniłlowicza Chernetski, and the Chernetski Family Farm was in Lisko Orliscko, Poland, Russia (now Lipsk nad Biebrzą, Poland). He claims to have been born in Suwałki; but he was born in Lipsk nad Biebrzą-- to be fair, in Suwałki gubernia, but still not in Suwałki City or (as far as I know) a listed shtetl. His parents left shtetl life by then.
Antoni "Anthony J. Czarnecki, Sr." Czarniecki (October 24, 1904 - December 2, 1964) was my dad's paternal granddad and the only Chernetski who lived on the family farm-- he was born in Cumań, Wolyń; now Tsuman, Volyns'ka Ukraine when his mother had visited Andrulewicz relatives around the Hilleli Rosh Chodesh Cheshvan in 1904. Once his parents converted themselves and him to Roman Catholicism to avoid the pogroms in Poland and Russia, and stayed Catholic to avoid persecution in America; his parents were basically done with the family back in Lisko and Suwałki, and he saw only pictures of them and whatever else a family friend named Bertha Wawrzyn would bring back when she went to visit family and friends.
Any of the other relatives that I have mentioned; and in case you need any more proof that they were Jewish, e-mail me: I have plenty more documents to show that they were Jewish, and that the pogroms did not provide a reasonable excuse to even pretend to convert in the eyes of Great-Granddad Czarnecki's grandparents.
castellenator
Long overdue reply, but Lipsko is Lipsk nad Biebrzą; and we're not related to that repugnant Anti Semite Stefan Czarniecki (or at least I hope not). But if Stefan Czarniecki was a Self-Hating Jew, yemach shemo!
Corrections to the previous list (as a Jew who was pretty left on my own with an exception of the help of a few relatives to help me figure out my heritage, I've learned some things since 2009):
Alexjondra Aliza Andrulewicza Czarniecka; who later changed her name to Alexandria (also "Alexandra" and "Alexanderia") Alice Andrulewicz (also "Andrulevich") Czarn(i)ecki, and was the daughter of Antoni "Anthony" Andrulewicz of Katarzyna "Katherine" MorgiewiczaAndrulewicza. Born on June 26, 1882; she immigrated from Suwałki to Ellis Island, settling in Sugar Notch, Pennsylvania. She died on April 6, 1936 and was buried on April 8, 1936.
Julian Jan "Felix" Chernetski(December 24, 1876 - September 11, 1922), my great-great-granddad Czarnecki. Great-Great-Granddad was the son of Antoni and Katarzyna Daniłlowicza Chernetski, and the Chernetski Family Farm was in Lisko Orliscko, Poland, Russia (now Lipsk nad Biebrzą, Poland). He claims to have been born in Suwałki; but he was born in Lipsk nad Biebrzą-- to be fair, in Suwałki gubernia, but still not in Suwałki City or (as far as I know) a listed shtetl. His parents left shtetl life by then.
Antoni "Anthony J. Czarnecki, Sr." Czarniecki (October 24, 1904 - December 2, 1964) was my dad's paternal granddad and the only Chernetski who lived on the family farm-- he was born in Cumań, Wolyń; now Tsuman, Volyns'ka Ukraine when his mother had visited Andrulewicz relatives around the Hilleli Rosh Chodesh Cheshvan in 1904. Once his parents converted themselves and him to Roman Catholicism to avoid the pogroms in Poland and Russia, and stayed Catholic to avoid persecution in America; his parents were basically done with the family back in Lisko and Suwałki, and he saw only pictures of them and whatever else a family friend named Bertha Wawrzyn would bring back when she went to visit family and friends.
Any of the other relatives that I have mentioned; and in case you need any more proof that they were Jewish, e-mail me: I have plenty more documents to show that they were Jewish, and that the pogroms did not provide a reasonable excuse to even pretend to convert in the eyes of Great-Granddad Czarnecki's grandparents.
Nickidewbear
19 Sep 2009
Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4500]
Levandovski - I'm betting that you're Jewish. "Levan" = "Levin" ?; and "Levin" is derived from "Levi".
"Dov" is "bear" in Hebrew, as I just found out. A son of a Levite bear is who you are, perhaps.
Levandovski - I'm betting that you're Jewish. "Levan" = "Levin" ?; and "Levin" is derived from "Levi".
"Dov" is "bear" in Hebrew, as I just found out. A son of a Levite bear is who you are, perhaps.
Nickidewbear
18 Sep 2009
News / Do Poles in Poland really feel betrayed because there won't be any US Shield? [288]
I'm not in Poland, but I have a feeling that the Danilowiczes, Czarnieckis, Andrulewiczes, and Margiewiczes who stayed behind are feeling a little sick; and some of them, like Great-Granddad Czarnecki's grandparents felt, are probably ready to choke us (ah, yes; us shaygetze Yiddish kop who were good Jews until we converted to Catholicism to avoid the pogroms. Then we fled to Ellis Island and Sugar Notch, Pennsylvania to avoid their wrath. We must really be goyische traitors to them right now.).
I'm not in Poland, but I have a feeling that the Danilowiczes, Czarnieckis, Andrulewiczes, and Margiewiczes who stayed behind are feeling a little sick; and some of them, like Great-Granddad Czarnecki's grandparents felt, are probably ready to choke us (ah, yes; us shaygetze Yiddish kop who were good Jews until we converted to Catholicism to avoid the pogroms. Then we fled to Ellis Island and Sugar Notch, Pennsylvania to avoid their wrath. We must really be goyische traitors to them right now.).
Nickidewbear
18 Sep 2009
Language / Is the term 'Polak' derogatory?? [254]
Well, "k___" is like "n_____"; and "Polak" spelled inappropriately is like using "Jew" or "Negro" (even "Black") as a pejorative. So, I don't see where your argument holds up.
Well, "k___" is like "n_____"; and "Polak" spelled inappropriately is like using "Jew" or "Negro" (even "Black") as a pejorative. So, I don't see where your argument holds up.
Nickidewbear
18 Sep 2009
Language / Is the term 'Polak' derogatory?? [254]
What's funny, though, is that a number of us were actually Jewish and hated by gentile Poles as well. So, maybe that's why Great-Great-Granddad and Great-Great-Great-Grandma pretended to be Polish Catholics: they'd rather get the rap for being "Polacks" then "k___s"; and I don't blame them. I'm not saying that calling anyone a "Polack" or even "Polak" in a derogatory sense is right; but I think that Great-Granddad pretended to be a Pole for that reason when he married Great-Grandma, a Slovakian-American gentile (though perhaps Jewish) Catholic: her parents did not like Jews too much (because, unless they were trying to dodge being Jewish as well; the Jews were the Christ-killing and unredeemed people to them, since they were hard-core Slovakian Roman Catholics).
What's funny, though, is that a number of us were actually Jewish and hated by gentile Poles as well. So, maybe that's why Great-Great-Granddad and Great-Great-Great-Grandma pretended to be Polish Catholics: they'd rather get the rap for being "Polacks" then "k___s"; and I don't blame them. I'm not saying that calling anyone a "Polack" or even "Polak" in a derogatory sense is right; but I think that Great-Granddad pretended to be a Pole for that reason when he married Great-Grandma, a Slovakian-American gentile (though perhaps Jewish) Catholic: her parents did not like Jews too much (because, unless they were trying to dodge being Jewish as well; the Jews were the Christ-killing and unredeemed people to them, since they were hard-core Slovakian Roman Catholics).
Nickidewbear
17 Sep 2009
Genealogy / Seeking Czarniecki family members and ancestors from Lublin, also Margiewicz, Danilowicz and Andrulewicz [77]
Looking To Connect With Some Relatives Back in Suwałki and Lipsko
I'm looking particularly to connect with anyone related to the following people:
- Katarzyna Margiewicza Andrulewicza, who married Antoni Andrulewicz. Katarzyna "Katherine" and Antoni "Anthony" Andrulewicz were born in Polish Russia prior to 1882.
- Alexjondra Aliza Andrulewicza Czarniecka (June 26, 1882 - April 6, 1936) , the daughter of the couple aformentioned. She was born in Suwałki, Polish Russia; and died in Sugar Notch, Pennsylvania.
- Katarzyna Danilowicza Czarniecka, who married Antoni Czarniecki of Lisko Orliscko (Lipsko), Polish Russia. She was, as far as I understand, born in Suwałki.
- Julian Jan "Julian John" Czarniecki (December 24, 1876 - September 11, 1922), the son of Antoni and Katarzyna Danilowicza Czarniecki, and son-in-law of Antoni and Katarzyna Margiewicza Andrulewicz. He claimed that he was born in Suwałki, but the Czarniecki Family Farm (and I don't know if it still is) in Lipsko.
- Antoni "Anthony J. Czarnecki, Sr." Czarniecki (October 24, 1904 - December 2, 1964). He was born in Lipsko, immigrated with his mom to and joined his dad in the United States in 1908, and settled in Luzerne County in Pennsylvania. He had eight siblings: Regina (1909 - June 23, 1925), Alexandria Alice Czarnecki Dombroski (September 28, 1910 - November 1978), Stanislaw "Stanley" P. Czarnecki (November 11, 1911 - July 29, 1995), Jan "John" Felix Czarnecki (August 31, 1913 - May 15, 1995), Edward "Ed" L. Czarnecki (April 2, 1915 - May 1991), Joseph "Suzy" P. Czarnecki (March 15, 1917 - September 17, 1978), Bernard "Bernie" S. Czarnecki (May 15, 1920 - 1970s), and Cecelia "Celia" R. Czarnecki Guhanick (January 5, 1922 - April 6, 1994).
Looking To Connect With Some Relatives Back in Suwałki and Lipsko
I'm looking particularly to connect with anyone related to the following people:
- Katarzyna Margiewicza Andrulewicza, who married Antoni Andrulewicz. Katarzyna "Katherine" and Antoni "Anthony" Andrulewicz were born in Polish Russia prior to 1882.
- Alexjondra Aliza Andrulewicza Czarniecka (June 26, 1882 - April 6, 1936) , the daughter of the couple aformentioned. She was born in Suwałki, Polish Russia; and died in Sugar Notch, Pennsylvania.
- Katarzyna Danilowicza Czarniecka, who married Antoni Czarniecki of Lisko Orliscko (Lipsko), Polish Russia. She was, as far as I understand, born in Suwałki.
- Julian Jan "Julian John" Czarniecki (December 24, 1876 - September 11, 1922), the son of Antoni and Katarzyna Danilowicza Czarniecki, and son-in-law of Antoni and Katarzyna Margiewicza Andrulewicz. He claimed that he was born in Suwałki, but the Czarniecki Family Farm (and I don't know if it still is) in Lipsko.
- Antoni "Anthony J. Czarnecki, Sr." Czarniecki (October 24, 1904 - December 2, 1964). He was born in Lipsko, immigrated with his mom to and joined his dad in the United States in 1908, and settled in Luzerne County in Pennsylvania. He had eight siblings: Regina (1909 - June 23, 1925), Alexandria Alice Czarnecki Dombroski (September 28, 1910 - November 1978), Stanislaw "Stanley" P. Czarnecki (November 11, 1911 - July 29, 1995), Jan "John" Felix Czarnecki (August 31, 1913 - May 15, 1995), Edward "Ed" L. Czarnecki (April 2, 1915 - May 1991), Joseph "Suzy" P. Czarnecki (March 15, 1917 - September 17, 1978), Bernard "Bernie" S. Czarnecki (May 15, 1920 - 1970s), and Cecelia "Celia" R. Czarnecki Guhanick (January 5, 1922 - April 6, 1994).
Nickidewbear
17 Sep 2009
USA, Canada / To move back to Poland from the USA or not to move back....that is the question [119]
If you're Jewish, just take your opportunity to move to Israel before both Poland and the USA go in the tank. If I had connections in Israel, and weren't disabled (I have cerebral palsy) or unable to drive, or chicken-s__t scared to leave the USA and regret leaving later, I'd move to Israel.
If you're Jewish, just take your opportunity to move to Israel before both Poland and the USA go in the tank. If I had connections in Israel, and weren't disabled (I have cerebral palsy) or unable to drive, or chicken-s__t scared to leave the USA and regret leaving later, I'd move to Israel.
Nickidewbear
17 Sep 2009
Genealogy / Seeking Czarniecki family members and ancestors from Lublin, also Margiewicz, Danilowicz and Andrulewicz [77]
Merged: Czarniecki from Suwalki, Lipsko
I'm looking for any information that anyone might have on:
- Alexjondra Aliza Andrulewicza Czarniecka; who later changed her name to Alexandria (also "Alexandra" and "Alexanderia") Alice Andrulewicz (also "Andrulevich") Czarn(i)ecki, and was the daughter of Antoni "Anthony" Andrulewicz of Katarzyna "Katherine" Margiewicza Czarniecki. Born on June 26, 1882; she immigrated from Suwałki to Ellis Island, settling in Sugar Notch, Pennsylvania. She died on April 6, 1936 and was buried on April 8, 1936.
- Julian Jan "Felix" Czarniecki (December 24, 1876 - September 11, 1922), my great-great-granddad Czarnecki. Great-Great-Granddad was the son of Antoni and Katarzyna Danilowicza Czarniecka, and the Czarniecki Family Farm was in Lisko Orliscko, Poland, Russia (now Lipsko, Poland). He claims to have been born in Suwałki; but I believe that he was either born in Lisko and was talking chai kock when he claimed "Suwałki" on his naturalization petition, or that he was born there because his mom had been born or was perhaps visiting relatives (perhaps Andrulewiczes or Margiewiczes) there.
- Antoni "Anthony J. Czarnecki, Sr." Czarniecki (October 24, 1904 - December 2, 1964) was my dad's paternal granddad and the only Czarniecki child born on the family farm. Once his parents converted themselves and him to Roman Catholicism to avoid the pogroms in Poland and Russia, and stayed Catholic to avoid persecution in America; his parents were basically done with the family back in Lisko and Suwałki, and he saw only pictures of them and whatever else a family friend named Bertha Wawrzyn would bring back when she went to visit family and friends.
- Any of the other relatives that I have mentioned; and in case you need any more proof that they were Jewish, e-mail me: I have plenty more documents to show that they were Jewish, and that the pogroms did not provide a reasonable excuse to even pretend to convert in the eyes of Great-Granddad Czarnecki's grandparents.
Merged: Czarniecki from Suwalki, Lipsko
I'm looking for any information that anyone might have on:
- Alexjondra Aliza Andrulewicza Czarniecka; who later changed her name to Alexandria (also "Alexandra" and "Alexanderia") Alice Andrulewicz (also "Andrulevich") Czarn(i)ecki, and was the daughter of Antoni "Anthony" Andrulewicz of Katarzyna "Katherine" Margiewicza Czarniecki. Born on June 26, 1882; she immigrated from Suwałki to Ellis Island, settling in Sugar Notch, Pennsylvania. She died on April 6, 1936 and was buried on April 8, 1936.
- Julian Jan "Felix" Czarniecki (December 24, 1876 - September 11, 1922), my great-great-granddad Czarnecki. Great-Great-Granddad was the son of Antoni and Katarzyna Danilowicza Czarniecka, and the Czarniecki Family Farm was in Lisko Orliscko, Poland, Russia (now Lipsko, Poland). He claims to have been born in Suwałki; but I believe that he was either born in Lisko and was talking chai kock when he claimed "Suwałki" on his naturalization petition, or that he was born there because his mom had been born or was perhaps visiting relatives (perhaps Andrulewiczes or Margiewiczes) there.
- Antoni "Anthony J. Czarnecki, Sr." Czarniecki (October 24, 1904 - December 2, 1964) was my dad's paternal granddad and the only Czarniecki child born on the family farm. Once his parents converted themselves and him to Roman Catholicism to avoid the pogroms in Poland and Russia, and stayed Catholic to avoid persecution in America; his parents were basically done with the family back in Lisko and Suwałki, and he saw only pictures of them and whatever else a family friend named Bertha Wawrzyn would bring back when she went to visit family and friends.
- Any of the other relatives that I have mentioned; and in case you need any more proof that they were Jewish, e-mail me: I have plenty more documents to show that they were Jewish, and that the pogroms did not provide a reasonable excuse to even pretend to convert in the eyes of Great-Granddad Czarnecki's grandparents.
Great-Great-Granddad Julian Jan "Julian John" Felix Czarniecki