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Let's talk about the POLISH ARMY


Paulina  16 | 4338
22 Aug 2023   #61
We should have got at least twice as many of those Apaches.

Initially the plans were for 32 helicopters for two squadrons, so they tripled that to 96 helicopters - six squadrons. That would make Poland the biggest Apache operator in the world besides the US.
GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
22 Aug 2023   #62
they tripled that to 96 helicopters - six squadrons

They should have got 12 squadrons. Like 12 Chairs in literature. :)
Crnogorac3  3 | 658
22 Aug 2023   #63
$12 billion 💵

Money which would have been better spent on improving roads and other infrastructure projects in Poland such as schools, kindergartens, hospitals, maternity wards etc.
pawian  221 | 25287
22 Aug 2023   #64
in literature

And film, too. :):) And the film is the most important of all arts, remember!

Money which would have been better spent on improving roads

Exactly. But, we have no choice, having such a neighbour as imperialist Russia. :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:((:(:(:(:(:(:(:

Why did ancient Poles choose such a fekked up place for their settlement?????? Kurwa mać!!!!
pawian  221 | 25287
16 Aug 2024   #65
The names of weapons in the Polish army.

Post Soviet T-72 tank version is called Twardy aka Tough.

A new wheeled armoured personnel carrier is Rosomak aka Wolverine.

A new tracked armored IFV is called Borsuk aka Badger.

A self propelled artillery is Krab aka Crab.

An assault rifle is Beryl aka Beryllium.

A MANPAD anti airclaft missile is Piorun aka Lightning., Its previous version was Grom aka Thunder.

tbc
pawian  221 | 25287
16 Aug 2024   #66
The names of weapons in the Polish army.

Some are really shocking.

Light reconaissance vehicle - Kleszcz aka Tick (this insect) :):):)
Another vehicle of this type is Żmija aka Viper

Self propelled mortar - Rak aka Crayfish

Scattered mine laying system - Baobab aka Baobab

Anti aircraft missile system - Narew - a river in Poland.
pawian  221 | 25287
16 Aug 2024   #67
Anti aircraft missile system - Narew - a river in Poland.

There are actually 3 kinds of such systems developed in Poland now and they all bear the names of rivers which differ in length and this denotes the range of the system - the longer the river, the bigger range ................... .
Narew - medium long river
Wisła aka Vistula - the longest in Poland
Pilica - short one.
pawian  221 | 25287
16 Aug 2024   #68
An assault rifle is Beryl aka Beryllium.

It seems that various kinds of guns are called after minerals/metals/elements etc.

Submachine gun Glauberyt aka Glauberite (mineral)

Personal grenade launcher Pallad aka Palladium

Sniper rifle Bor aka Boron

Anti materiel sniper rifle Tor aka Thorium

Some names were translated from the languages of the countries which produced them in the past. Primarily Russian - e,g. Soviet era self propelled artillery is called Carnation.
pawian  221 | 25287
16 Aug 2024   #69
Some names were translated from the languages of the countries which produced them in the past.

Some weren`t. E.g, Javelin isn`t Oszczep, Spike isn`t Kolec, Leopard isn`t Lampart etc etc

Self propelled mortar - Rak aka Crayfish

A kin is Langusta aka Crawfish - self propelled multiple rocket launcher
Paulina  16 | 4338
21 Sep 2024   #70
Today is the 15th anniversary of the death of Ewa Baran, a GROM soldier. It was a mysterious death - she died a few months after coming back from Afghanistan where she was the only Polish female SF soldier. It's suspected that she got either infected by some unknown bacteria or virus or that she was poisoned by the locals back in Afghanistan. She left a husband, also a soldier, and a daughter:

warszawa.naszemiasto.pl/tajemnica-smierci-ewy-baran/ar/c1-33501


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Alien  24 | 5721
22 Sep 2024   #71
she was poisoned by the locals back in Afghanistan

It's strange that we don't know what she died of. Was an autopsy performed? Progressive emaciation, it could also be some kind of parasite.
Paulina  16 | 4338
22 Sep 2024   #72
@Alien, I imagine that in such a situation there must've been an autopsy performed...

Progressive emaciation, it could also be some kind of parasite.

True, but I think that an autopsy would show that...

also a soldier

Sorry, her father was a soldier and her husband a BOR (Polish Secret Service) agent.
Alien  24 | 5721
22 Sep 2024   #73
must've been an autopsy performed...

Not necessarily, if the family didn't want it, the hospital probably didn't want it either. There was no crime and the prosecutor didn't want to do it either.
Paulina  16 | 4338
22 Sep 2024   #74
@Alien, I think any normal family would want to know what happened and would want an autopsy...
jon357  73 | 23112
22 Sep 2024   #75
I think any normal family would want to know what happened

I'm sure they would.

Remember, it's military, and the military don't always give out as much information as people want.

Also, if they did a Post Mortem Examination (Americans say 'autopsy' which sounds very old-fashioned in English), at all, it would not necessarily have been a civilian one.

Progressive emaciation, it could also be some kind of parasite.

Very possible. In hot countries there are all sorts of illnesses we don't think about in Europe.

poisoned by the locals

If that's the case, I'm sure it wouldn't be in the public domain.
Paulina  16 | 4338
22 Sep 2024   #76
Remember, it's military, and the military don't always give out as much information as people want.

Yeah, true.

If that's the case, I'm sure it wouldn't be in the public domain.

Why not?
jon357  73 | 23112
22 Sep 2024   #77
Why not?

A few reasons. Could be the nature and origin of any poison, could be another security issue, could be about morale. Armies are a rule to themselves sometimes.

It's dangerous being a soldier. She was evidently very brave and her family must miss her.
Paulina  16 | 4338
22 Sep 2024   #78
@jon357, I don't know, I don't see a reason to withhold such basic info - whether she died of natural causes or not. Look at all the info/details given here:

tvn24.pl/swiat/zolnierz-jednostki-grom-zginal-w-afganistanie-ra301879-ls3422496
jon357  73 | 23112
22 Sep 2024   #79
I don't see a reason

Nor me, though armies are a rule to themselves, and there may well be something the media don't know, given that military operations were involved. The same thing happens in the UK sometimes; families want to know but the army don't want to say for reasons they don't make public.

There are a lot of details, as you say, however there may well be issues not in the public domain yet.


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