POLISH AND RUSSIAN FRIENDSHIP WILL LAST FOREVER

Both.

And pre-war Poland's most popular radio broadcaster.

That is crying in the wilderness. Forget it. Poles will never go with uncivilised barbarians.


Exactly. In result, the Western Allies were able to capture half Germany. If the USSR had done it, the West would have had a huge problem with winning the Cold War. Poles contributed to a great cause.

Wait a second we have ssome post-communits that I would gladly send them were they belong to Moscow. They betrayed their masters from Kremlin and are licking German boots in Brussel.

I think they should be send to their country which is Russian Federation.

Agreed!

Russia aka den of thieves!

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1543278699256111107

I decided I must inject some culture into this thread.

First song is a cover by a modern band of an old Revolution-era song about kicking the bourgeoisie's ass ( a little tongue in cheek). Nice views of the city from a river point of view

Second song is by a female Tatar singer. The joke of the song, and the music video - is how Putin becomes "reborn" just as his term limit begins to end.

Both videos are high quality productions. The one about Putin won prizes in Cannes and Berlin. Tell me again that we live in a North Korea-like state lol. Worth taking a look:

youtu.be/k7TxSDRqdC4

youtu.be/6vkYvZpTHng

Another music video for people that think Russia is like China or North Korea.

Horror/Goth group ICESPEAK, song titled "Death No More". Beautiful cinematography again, even if the song is a little too out there for my taste. There's a scene where they are sitting on top of riot police shoulders on red square, then one of them eating raw meat on top of Lenin's Mausoleum, and then smoking weed in front of the parliament building while discussing arrests at protests - all while singing about what a depressing place Russia can be. Still not in jail, exiled, or #cancelled.

youtu.be/MBG3Gdt5OGs

LOL
by the way I know that first group!
On that note:

youtu.be/yrI04TqfujM
Inject

youtu.be/NNrWaDGf9xk

Some culture:

youtu.be/KgQj_jL7nF8

youtu.be/wOMj9IVRnZc

youtu.be/FI-lydvm1GA

youtu.be/p266UtzxCpo

and pop culture:

youtu.be/5Iwy_xeJi7c

youtu.be/uDkm6xVHS5w
and much more out there:

@Cojestdocholery

OMG, this will take me some time to work through. What I can say already, after listening to the first few, is that you - Cojest- most surprisingly are a hopeless romantic!

After this???


You can stop the process. There is already St. Bobko so you are late.

@Bobko
#hopefulromantic! Hopeful!

youtu.be/PXcQoHLceVE

Another very entertaining music clip, with a good story. From same Tatar girl as did the Putin joke video above. In this case the song is called "Tatarin", and is about her Tatar boyfriend and his "traditional" views.

Even though he looks like an absolute thug, the main character in the video is actually played by a very artsy photographer.

youtu.be/yQR_NLeXKtw

Bobko injected some Russian culture, Cojest some Polish culture, so I will inject a guy that is somewhere in between... ladies and gentlemen - the one and only Alosza Awdiejew...

youtu.be/BGE6fmz98l0

youtu.be/7f-ZGlZNdyw

youtu.be/511p_RkaVbI

... :)

@Crnogorac3

Geez dude... we are injecting culture here, not some infernal clangor :-/

Want to show something Yugoslavian? How about this...

youtu.be/DnDPWPom9Tw

WOOOOOOW! How did I not know about this guy?

Now your debt for Blok is repaid. You are free, and released from your oath. Be free Kania!

What oath? Was I drunk on PF again and wrote something I don't remember?

Anyway, I'm glad you like Alosza :)

The great soprano Galina Vishnevskaya was part ethnically Polish (Wiśniewska?) though not culturally or linguistically. Her life (as recounted in wysokie obcasy some years ago) was more dramatic than most of the operas she performed in...

interestingly the english wikipedia seems to have been.... edited... in a rather.... soviet.... style. No mention of being stripped of soviet citizenship....

Perhaps her greatest role was Ekaterina in Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk, but that's kind of harrowing... so something prettier....

youtu.be/Vc5wdDEWMrc

@mafketis

Damn, you can see from that album cover that Rostropovich had a complete hard-on for Vishnevskaya!

*ekhm* I thought we were injecting culture into this thread. :D

Give it another day and PF will be a comedy club.

@GefreiterKania

Here's a video you should watch. Unfortunately this is not Russian, but Kazakh. However, I am sure that 90% of the views under this video are Russian.

This is the right way to do a Polish history of Katyn. A Ukrainian way to do Holodomor.

Irina Kayratovna (brilliant name), shot a video for a song about weed that basically got all of Kazakhstan talking. The group consists of three Kazakhs and one Russian. In this video they show the evolution of Kazakh attitudes to the killing of the Kazakh intelligentsia by the Bolsheviks, and how it went from brutal shootings to grandkids watching it on iPads. Addresses covid, and corruption. You need to have some command of turkic languages to understand, but its not necessary you can just watch pictures.

How do Poles educated the young generation about Katyn?

youtu.be/Jk7Ff9s2nkw

I'm not quite sure if a rap song about Katyń would be entirely appropriate... but who knows - generations change, sensibilities change.


I would leave that for Ukrainians to decide.


Well, this one is relatively new...

youtu.be/417QavvOLa8

... and a history teacher that I know plays it to his highschool students (there are English subtitles).

Talking about Katyń, is this... what was the creature's name... Barisov(?) - is he supervising cattle breeding somewhere in Siberia already? That would help Polish-Russian friendship a lot (to come back to the original topic of this thread).

The final word on Russian culture!

Three great artists evoke a dirty joke response.....

Culturally Russia died long ago and a bunch of ghouls are feeding on the corpse....

Well yes, I'm not saying it's a good proxy, but unlike the video you shared it will be watched by many millions. The average person can't be expected to watch a 25 minute video about a subject removed 70 years. The short rap video, however, can awaken discussion amongst the multitudes that would rather carry on with their lives.

The resonance of the Kazakh video I shared above was twofold. Number one on the corruption side (where the bureaucrat gives his kid a lego of an uncompleted monorail). Two, on the Covid side (nobody in charge actually followed the rules). This - contrasted to the executed ancestors, started a discussion on how venal society had become, compared to just recently when people were willing to give their life for an idea of a better country. Finally, that no matter what happened (Russians in first part of video beating Kazakh detainee), you need to keep walking into the future together (the rest of the video where the Russian features). Kazakhstan went a completely different path than Ukraine in dealing with its past. Kazakhstan suffered proportionally more from the event the Ukrainians call the Holodomor.

So there should be not just hate and sadness, but also some call to action to be better in the present. To work hard harder towards a better future.

Oh, come on - let's not be such puritans. ;) A joke is a joke.


Definitely. I think this generally should be, and hopefully it is, the right approach to history. To learn from it, not repeat the past mistakes in the future and also appreciate what we have now, and what wouldn't be possible without the sacrifices of our heroes.

What about this Borisev dude? And is the Polish flag back in Katyń? Any news on that (I can't find anything on the internet)?

Explain the humor then.....

Apparently you don't recognize the importance of eros in culture - even in high culture - and the extent of artistic creativity that it can incite. :)

Geez, Maf... cheer up.

Not really, I'm not a cynical nihilist and amoral being like most Russians, and without a oppresive state they all turn into Dmitri Karamazov.

I just have a healthy appreciation of the Polish culture even those are mostly things of the past. Unless you think that values are something only a romantic would value? lol!

I have no doubts about a rotten human nature but I know that people can be really good as well.


Russian role model lol!
Good!

@Bobko

I quite liked the first video you posted.
The other two were typical negative nihilistic Russian crap.

@Cojestdocholery

Some Superb music videos!
Thank you!


So you have at last discovered the true Polish heart.
There is hope for some of you Russians yet!

Sweet summer child.... it's about ridiculing those who stood up to state oppression (and suffered for it) from one who would never dream of standing up to state oppression.

Russian videos are just too miserable to watch!