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We Remember: Cold War Warrior and True Pole Michał Franciszek Goleniewski


Poloniusz 4 | 601
31 Dec 2020 #1
The very end of 2020 saw the regurgitation in the press of quite a few notorious Soviet-era Western traitors. One of the most despicable of which was the Netherlands-born, Turkish Jewish, British turncoat and avowed communist George Blake aka George Behar aka Georgiy Ivanovich Bleyk (sheesh! talk about having an identity crisis!) who finally croaked in Russia at the age of 98.

Blake's reign of treachery is said to have resulted directly in the apprehension and deaths of hundreds anti-communist agents operating behind the Iron Curtain.

Although Blake's disgraceful name grabbed all the headlines back in the 20th century and again in the last few weeks of 2020, history shows us that there was one Polish name, one Michał Franciszek Goleniewski, who heroically exposed Blake to the West and in one felling blow put an abrupt halt to his rampaging blood-soaked betrayals.

Oh, sure, the British made the token gesture at the time of arresting Blake and put in him prison for a short time. But basically Blake simply walked out and made his way unchallenged all the way to Moscow where he spent many decades living very comfortably while forever evading justice. Blake had no regrets and for many leftards and unrepentant communists in Britain, Russia, and elsewhere, he has always been regarded as one of their heroes.

Goleniewski himself lived the remainder of his life in America dying at the ripe old age of 71.

So in this thread we honor the name and bravery of true Pole and anti-communist patriot Michał Franciszek Goleniewski. Thank you for your service and your pivotal role in helping to defeat communism!

Hurra!!!
Novichok - | 2,027
1 Jan 2021 #2
Turkish Jewish, British

For 200, what did he have in common with the Rosenbergs?
pawian 176 | 14,299
1 Jan 2021 #3
Hurra!!!

I see there is heavy drinking in your place now. :):)
I hope you know that Goleniewski had been a faithful Stalinist before he defected to the West. Later, when he gave away some Soviet spies in the West, Western intelligence still suspected him of working on Kremlin orders. Soviets intended to discredit top leaders of Western intelligence and Goleniewski was a tool to achieve this goal when he accused them of being Soviet moles.

Most probably, you don`t really know what and who you are talking about. As usual.
Novichok - | 2,027
1 Jan 2021 #4
Why is it that the most extreme acts of stupidy are always committed by white Western men? So, they nailed a spy, and rather than execute the pos, they just put him into a prison with check kiters and jaywalkers where the guards watch movies and have 5 p.m. tea with biscuits. No guard towers, no barbed wire, and - of all possible locations - in London to make escapes easier. Sure, why make them walk a long distance and get sweaty. I wonder if he got tender and loving counseling to help him apply for early release and re-integration.
pawian 176 | 14,299
1 Jan 2021 #5
Why is it that the most extreme acts of stupidy are always committed by white Western men?

We haven`t mentiond an equally interesting thing about him. He claimed that he was Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich who was miraculously saved during the massacre of the Tsarist family in 1917. Goleniewski also claimed to have information about Tsarist money.and he met female Tsarist family claimants. .

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Goleniewski
Chemikiem 7 | 2,497
1 Jan 2021 #6
one Michał Franciszek Goleniewski, who heroically exposed Blake to the West

Did it escape your notice that Goleniewski betrayed his own country by passing Polish and Soviet information to the CIA? And that a Warsaw court sentenced him to death?
Strzelec35 12 | 1,155
1 Jan 2021 #7
how can anyone call a spy anything but scum? its funny how normies wre all hypocrytes and npcs and think spies are good when it is for their cause or narion but wutomatically bad when they or their country gets spied on and want to execute the scum on the spot with no trial asked if they ever find one.
pawian 176 | 14,299
1 Jan 2021 #8
that Goleniewski betrayed his own country

Well, that`s a similar controversy as Colonel Kukliński`s case. Half people believe he was a traitor, the other - a hero.

The case with Goleniewski is a bit different, though. Kukliński was always a soldier, officer in the army, while Goleniewski began and continued his career in communist secret services. Those were the worst thugs who did their best to brutally deal with any opponent of the regime - real or imaginary. Goleniewski defected in 1959 so it means he worked and got promoted to top positions in secret services for 14 years. In 1953 Stalin died, in 1956 the thaw began in Poland and hardened Stalinist communists lost power. The once-powerful secret services were put under strict control and ceased to be such a lucrative place. It took Goleniewski 3 years to decide to take his lover with him and find a new comfortable place in the West.

All in all, his work for communist secret service and his later antics with that Tsarevich imposture provoke a lot of doubt about his "heroism. " That is why I said the OP didn`t know what and who it was talking about.
Novichok - | 2,027
1 Jan 2021 #9
how can anyone call a spy anything but scum?

Spies should be executed the day of the trial and kept alive only if they can be exchanged.
Joker 2 | 1,736
1 Jan 2021 #10
Spies should be executed the day of the trial

Chinese spies that infiltrate the USA get warned by thier victims and return safely home... Just askEric Swalwell he didnt even loose his job! It must be nice being a libtard Democrat.
pawian 176 | 14,299
1 Jan 2021 #11
kept alive only if they can be exchanged.

That is always possible - all countries spy on one another. :):) It is natural that the USA spy on Poland, even though we are allies and partners in NATO. And vice versa.
OP Poloniusz 4 | 601
1 Jan 2021 #12
Soviets intended to discredit

Yes, and that is exactly what an old Soviet NPC like yourself is trying doing in this thread to Goleniewski's memory.

Goleniewski courageously and effectively did his part to help diminish the bloodstained totalitarian communist system and in the process derail the pinko gravy train you boastfully once benefited from.

But we get it; you are still bitter about it.

Did it escape your notice

Not at all and your warped way of thinking is glaringly obvious.

You even said a commie kangaroo court sentenced Goleniewski to death as if that has any legitimacy.

Yep, leave it to a WASPy woman to foolishly try to justify the real horrors and terrors of communism far beyond her own British doorstep.
pawian 176 | 14,299
1 Jan 2021 #13
to help diminish the bloodstained totalitarian communist system

Really? For 15 years he was an appreciated and promoted member of the most brutal organisation ever created - communist secret service. He had blood of hundreds of Polish patriots on his hands. Do you want to read the list of tortures they used to force their victims to give false evidence against themselves and others?? They not only tortured, they also murdered their victims.

He defected not because he wanted to abolish the system. He lost privileges, power and high earnings after the political thaw in 1956. He needed to find another source of benefits and encouraged by previous defections of his mates, he chose the West.

It is you which is supporting and endorsing the worst crimes of communism now.

Admit you hadn`t checked his background when you cried out Hurra in the op. Now it is too late.

What else will you say to defend that communist criminal?
Novichok - | 2,027
1 Jan 2021 #14
That is always possible - all countries spy on one another

Exchanging spies works only if a country catches a foreign spy. He then becomes a valuable exchange asset. If you catch your own, kill him because nobody wants him. As far as I know, the USSR didn't offer anything for the Rosenbergs.
pawian 176 | 14,299
1 Jan 2021 #15
Yes, coz that was in the early 1950s, the hottest time of the Cold War when Stalin was still in power, and such exchanges weren`t practised yet. It began later on - the first exchange took place in 1962..
OP Poloniusz 4 | 601
1 Jan 2021 #16
Really? For 15 years...

Yes, really. Wars involving armed combat aren't won in a single day. Ideological wars can take decades. Do yourself a favor and for once try to comprehend a history book rather than just monotonously read from one to your captive students.

He had blood of hundreds of Polish patriots on his hands. Do you want to read the list of...tortured...murdered...

Slanderer! You need to provide immediately a list of each and every name you claim that Goleniewski personally tortured and murdered.

He needed to find another source of benefits...he chose the West.

Nope, your WASPy commie cohort even proudly stated that he was sentenced to death by the illegitimate bloodthirsty regime.

Unlike you who wholeheartedly backed and benefited from communism, Goleniewski risked his own life to help end it and even worse had to pay the penalty of living in exile from Poland.

Anyway, Goleniewski's biography does mention that he was regarded by his superiors as being exceptionally intelligent. It's pretty obvious then why he never took up a teaching job.
pawian 176 | 14,299
1 Jan 2021 #17
Goleniewski risked his own life to help end it

hahaha Of course not. Don`t be silly.

why he never took up a teaching job.

hahaha I see you are at a loss of arguments. It is obvious you don`t know what to say.

Admit you feel stupid after presenting that communist criminal to us and glorifying him to such an extent. That is one of your greatest bloopers recently. You had already scored a few under that new monicker. Are you sure you want to continue with it or are you going to change it, just like 3 times before???

Do you remember that previous bummer when you mocked and belittled true Polish patriots from AK underground??? Now this communist thug Goleniewski, so enthusiastically advertised by you....

Who are you working for, agent Polo??? What else are you going to say about Poland and Poles to promote inhuman systems communism and supress the patriotic feelings?
OP Poloniusz 4 | 601
1 Jan 2021 #18
I see you are at a loss of arguments.

As usual, you can't follow along. You defamed Goleniewski with the false accusation that his career path alone made him personally guilty of torture and murder.

But, unlike you, Goleniewski was not a status quo communist. He was a change agent who disrupted the communist system and was forced into exile as a result. You and your family, on the other hand, are the admitted apparatchiks who endorsed the communist system and only left Poland to indulge in foreign holidays which were out of reach for true Poles. Pigs at the trough, my friends. Pigs at the trough.

Do you remember that previous bummer when you mocked and belittled

Are you referring to Berling's Bimbos?

Yes, I did ask you several months ago last year to explain how it was possible for those self-regarding feminist hags to survive the fight against the communists, and then decades of communist oppression in Poland, other than by surrendering and joining the "new army" commanded by the deserter and Soviet collaborator Zygmunt Berling.

Unsurprisingly, you never answered.

Obviously, you were at a loss of arguments and didn't know what to say.

Clearly, that's still the case.
pawian 176 | 14,299
1 Jan 2021 #19
personally guilty of torture and murder.

He worked for communist secret police which imprisoned, tortured and eventually executed thousands of Polish patriots, including General Witold Pilecki or General Fieldorf Nil.

So, similarly, you support another high ranked secret police functionary, Józef Światło.

Pray tell us what you think about Swiatło. He had done the same thing as Goleniewski.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zef_%C5%9Awiat%C5%82o

He was a change agent who disrupted the communist system

In 1959. After 14 years of dutiful service in the communist oppression system.

was forced into exile as a result

Of course not. He defected on his own when he had lost profits and power.

Stop promoting that communist scumbag - I know you don`t care about degrading yourself even more with each post you make here. But at least care about degrading those who died by Stalinist oppressors` hands.

Are you referring to Berling's Bimbos?

No, I mentioned AK - Home Army, quite clearly. Did you skip it on purpose? Shame on you.

All in all, it is visible you are losing the case and wish you hadn`t started that thread at all.

Obviously, you were at a loss of arguments and didn't know what to say.

BTW, stop copying from me. You are a native speaker, so invent your own ideas and leave mine alone coz they are too precious to be cheaply exploited by such dirty communist crimes propagators as you. .
Chemikiem 7 | 2,497
1 Jan 2021 #20
leave it to a WASPy woman to foolishly try to justify the real horrors and terrors of communism far beyond her own British doorstep.

What does my gender or nationality have to do with the topic of the thread?

Admit you hadn`t checked his background

Clearly not.
pawian 176 | 14,299
1 Jan 2021 #21
Clearly not.

Well, some posters shouldn`t drink and post coz they get completely lost. :):):)

What does my gender or nationality have to do with the topic of the thread?

hahaha Drowning communist criminals propagator catches at a straw.

you were at a loss of arguments

I am still waiting for your admission to a mistake which could happen to anyone on New Year`s Eve.

But instead of withdrawing from your silly claims about Goleniewski`s "patriotic heroism" you are digging the hole and yourself in it even deeper.

So, now a few true facts from an informative historical site:
wielkahistoria.pl/michal-goleniewski-najwyzszy-ranga-oficer-prl-owskiego-wywiadu-ktory-uciekl-na-zachod/

Goleniewski decided to defect coz he wanted to lead a comfortable life in the West. He had a difficult situation at home coz his Russian wife suffered from a mental disorder, to such an extent that he moved out and returned to his mother. Meanwhile he met and fell in love with a young East German woman. It was her who started persuading Goleniewski to defect to the West, coz the Wall still didn`t exist then. So, they commenced practical preparations - e.g., he regularly took out large sums from the secret police operational fund and transfered it to his lover`s account. At the same time, he was providing valuable intelligence info to CIA contacts in Poland. It happened first in 1959 and continued till 1961 when he and his lover checked at the American Embassy in West Berlin, carrying a large sum of money he had received at his Warsaw office that day. . Due to the importance of his knowledge about Polish and Soviet intelligence, he was welcomed by Americans with open arms.

Goleniewski was neither a patriot nor a hero. He was a disappointed secret police functionary who had served his Soviet masters loyally for many years but decided to betray them for Western luxury.

Do you feel stupid enough to stop defending him or not yet and we shall continue our class???? hahaha

All in all, I think it is time to change your monicker and start everything anew coz you have discredited yourself enough and those bloopers of yours will be remembered and recalled for a long time. I really pity you.
Strzelec35 12 | 1,155
1 Jan 2021 #22
"Goleniewski courageously and effectively did his part to help diminish the bloodstained totalitarian communist system and in the process derail the pinko gravy train you boastfully once benefited from."

USA is just as totalitarian just read about its history with slavery, killing Indians, installing dictatorships in Latin american countries, war with mexico, taking Texas by force, installing puppet dictatorships in the middle east and later topplint them like Iraq and in a way Afghanistan, etc. etc.


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