The reasons of Polish pride?

What are some reasons to be proud to be polish? All my friends back up their reasoning with "because its awesome!" I would like some better reasons

well check out our history.
we are country from 966, so our country exists for more more than a thousand years.

I'm sorry that you have a low class Polish friends

Cause we are brave, fighting enemies through generations and often beating them when they outnumbered us.

check this out: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wizna

poland fought for a month in 1939 campaign fighting against Germany and the Soviet Union.
Meanwhile France a country much wealthier and with a much bigger army than ours was defeated in a month only by the Germans.

read about the defence of westerplatte, or the defence of the Gdanska post office.
Read about warsaw uprising or the fight after 1945 against the Russian occupant.
The Ak and the NSZ.
The information is all out there!

The question you asked seems simple, but the answer is much more complicated. There is something that one of our writers, Gombrowicz, called "the Polish complex". It is a prevalent way of subconscious thinking about ourselves, that we are backwards, worse and that we've got to compete with western Europe to prove that we are their equals.

Younger people are mostly free of that complex. Older ones mostly aren't. It can be seen easily in the media, when fe. a western music star comes to visit Poland he is constantly bombarded with questions "do you like it here? how do you like the fans? have you seen this? have you been there?", it's masturbatory. Even David Lynch who has always said that he loves Poland and the city of Lodz is asked the same questions over and over again in almost every fuc*king interview.

The older ones with the complex most of the time have contradictory feelings about migration. They are happy that "we'll show them how great we are", and on the other hand "they shouldn't leave, they left the country, they shouldn't be allowed to come back".

Merged:

Polish pride - yes or no - would Poles find their scent

Poland can exist only as proud. Tell it to yourself, to your children.

Don`t buy BS. Its not nationalism. Its life or death. Its existence or no resistance. Its patriotism.

Racowie are with you. And let them lie on us. Let them. Its just normal for weaklings and dishonorable people to lie.

Poland is sacred! Protect Poland, save her!

Down with EU, don`t with Islamic league, down with NATO!

Jan Sobieski, Kopernikus, Chopin, Mickiewicz (first great modern nationalist poet), the composer Karol Szymanowski, Mme. Curie, Jan Kiepura, Karski, Wojtyla.
Andrzej Wajda, Tadeusz Kantor, Jerzy Grotowski.... are plenty good reasons for me.

There is nothing to be ashamed of being Polish. We're proud of being Polish and we don't have to prove anything.
Read about Witold Pilecki, Irena Sendler, Tadeusz Kosciuszko, Ignacy Paderewski,Mikolaj Kopernik, Jan III Sobieski

Every nation has scored some great and as well as lousy moments in their history. Poland isn˛t worse or better than other countries. It is normal that a typical patriot of their country, whether a Pole, German or American, etc, should be proud of their nation. Let`s be proud without being chauvinistic cause that`s a harmful exaggeration of patriotism.

You forgot Kazimierz Pulaski:-)

Of course, mike larry, that's my whole point in post #8!

He is well loved in Chicago. We have a street named after him and a holiday in his honor.

Not forgetting about renowned Polish-Americans from the Windy City, such as Art Royko.

He was very famous and a literary genius, I used to enjoy reading his columns in the tribune. Iron Mike Ditka is another famous Chicago Pol-Am, still going strong!

Poles are to Chicago what Irish, Italians, and Hispanics are to New York, for example.

In addition, Chicago had its version of a "Polish mafia", dramatized in the classic "Calling Northside 777" (1947) with James Stewart, featuring a fictional Polish-American, down on his luck sort named Frank Wiecek (pronounced "WHEETCHECK in the movieLOL) and his involvement with the Meatpacking Mob, which our hero, Jimmy Stewart, tries to infiltrate!

Hey, did you read read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair back in H.S. its one of my favs! You'll never open up a can of corned beef afterwards...lol


Although, there are many Poles in Chicago, it pales to the Irish, they built most of this town and still control a majority of unions and government agencies for decades.

Remember, Mayor Richard M. Daley " The Boss"? Chicago is the headquarters of the Democratic political machine.

Why? There must be some logical explanation that I missed.

Why? Probably for the same reason why Texans fought a hopeless battle at Alamo. When you-know-who asks you about Alamo`s sense, do you also tell her you don`t know why? :):)

Never heard of the Alamo battle, but I suspect that the state of Texas tried to repel the U.S. invasion and agression against them. Why was the battle hopeless?

The Alamo was defended by about 200 Texan volunteers against the thousands Mexican army. All defenders died except for 3 people - a female, her child and a black slave/servant. A famous gesture of one of the commanders before the battle was drawing a line in the sand and saying: Who is with me, cross this line. They all crossed the line and they all died.

I suppose Texans are very proud of their heroic last stand.

Check out this joke by my fav American cartoonist:

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So what was the logical explanation of this heroic stand as demanded by that smart American ass Rich Mazur?

Smart American ass or not, what is a sensible answer to my simple question in #17 above without lame analogies?

We must wait for Rich to get up and voice his opinion on the Alamo. Then we can try to compare it to our opinions on the Polish fight against Germans in 1939.

Edit: He got up but is trying to wriggle out of answering about the Alamo. That`s not too manly - first he provokes and then immediately withdraws to the forest like a partisan. :):)


A genius like you should understand that lame analogies are usually a result of lame questions. :):)

Looking for analogies takes more effort than answering a question directly. Especially an easy one like mine.

So, again, why, knowing the outcome, would anyone offer 100%-futile resistance against an overwhelmingly stronger enemy that is prepared to flatten Warsaw and kill women and children while at it? Was it like suicide-by-cop? Or did the Polish army actually think that they can make Germany turn tail and run back home?

So, why don't you, the historians, answer it directly without patronizing me with the events that have no connection with Poland.

Let`s change it a little: would anyone offer 100%-futile resistance against an overwhelmingly stronger enemy that is prepared to take the Alamo fort and kill all defenders while in it?


Or did the Texan volunteers actually think that they can make Mexican army under general Santa Maria turn tail and run back home?


Not physical connection, no. But the same moral issues are concerned. Alamo and Polish war 1939-45 are based on the same principle - a strong conviction that people have the right to be free.

It wasn't Z, Texas won a couple years later if you haven't noticed. lol
Also did you notice in all your googling that the State of Texas is more than twice as big as the country of Poland ?
A Polish teacher teaching American history from Google is most entertaining and comical. lmao
We got a little OFF -Topic here haven't we people ?????

F*** your analogies until you answer my question first. Then you may say: It's like...


They did. I asked about Poland and these clowns gave me a dizzying ride back to the US because they can't directly admit the obvious: Poles are all feeeelings and dumb like our brick with bad lipstick. That is why they like dying for the country - za ojczyzne. Then, they doubled down with that idiotic Warsaw Uprising - that almost killed me - trying to outsmart the Soviets.

Yeah, you're right. Most Poles would die for their homeland.
And I'm so glad we're not like you.

So you think just sitting and waiting for your enemy is smarter? Let them come, do what they want and we will just sit here and wait politely for you?

If it was us attacking them I would say you are right but when you are attacked you .

Sadly they didn't have the fantastic option of becoming keyboard warriors like Rich

@Lenka
At least we know how certain people would behave when their was attacked.
Welcoming the enemy with their arms wide open stupidly thinking that would save their lives.