What do Poles owe to Jews?

Do you?

I don't but the Bible has documented witnesses.
Can you prove otherwise ?
Let's argue

Then let them testify under oath.

We will, on Judgment Day.
That is prophesied too.

When is that? I want to mark my calendar.

Seriously, there are better ways to look like a fool than push a cute story as facts. It is embarrassing even to read your crap.

You are not in charge of that so you don't have that option.
The Good Book explains that prophecy as, "He will come like a thief in the night."
No one knows when He will return.


My Faith can't be rocked by you or Satan.
Only a fool could think otherwise.
You have already posted that Satan has captured your soul and how you can't wait to spend eternity with Satan and I never challenged your choice.

So let me ask you why you are so adamant in challenging me on my choice other than you seem to be unsure of your choice.

That and you just want someone to argue your foolishness with.
Class dismissed and back on topic Loon.

@Novichok # 530 "Wait ... Are you saying that 85% of Jews in Poland do not speak Polish? Did I get that right?"

These are figures which are given in several Polish, Jewish or other history books.
And the so-called "virulen anti-Judaism" of the Poles, repeated to boredom by many polonophobic media, comes in part from the lack of knowledge of the history of Judaism in Poland, but above all, because of to want to seal and in a certain way "excuse" their official collaboration and active participation in the genocide of the Jews of all Europe.

@Bratwurst Boy # 533 "I read that many of the german Jews looked down their noses towards their Stetl brethren in the East ... there was definitely a divide!"

That is true. Compared to Poland, Jewish Germans were surprised that so many Polish Jewish citizens did not learn the language of their country and did not integrate into it.

You have to know when 1939, 75% of Jews already left Germany. In addition, the Germans sent 80,000 Polish Jews to Poland in 1938. There were very few Jews left there. Many joined the army and the German SS.

They could not understand how in a country which had become free, they were declared again as full Polish citizens, the integrate in society, knowing that no one questioned their religion, just like, other religions.

You know full well that Jewish people were not eligible to join either.

The Nazis murdered 6 million Jewish people. They did not admit them to their bands of trained killers.


Or more that actual actual historians disagree with you,

The last time you mentioned Katyn, did you say Christians or Poles?
How many of the 6 million "Jews" were citizens of Poland?

Your point is a bizarre one. Jews, Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Other religions and non-believers were all among the victims of the Katyń crime which was about the victims' membership of the Army and the Army reserves rather than who they were outside that.


An even weaker point, since the Holocaust was not about citzenship, however I gather about half were Jewish Poles.

Beware all the EXTREME dangers of historical relativism! Katyn cannot be compared with Auschwitz as posted ad nauseum on this as well as other
Forum threads, any more than Babi Yar can be compared with My Lai, The Rindfleisch or Lincoln Massacres with early Christians being thrown to the lions etc.

Murder, either manslaughter or mass mureder, is never relative and cannot be equated with other such actions, killing in pure, justifiable self defense cases notwithstanding.

The point is fully contained in my question - which is simple and has no ambiguities so don't stretch it.

How many of the 6 million Jews were Polish citizens? If you don't know or don't like to answer, that's an entirely different matter.

The second question was about YOUR last post on the subject of Katyn. The answer is known to you so no history lectures.

The question was:

The last time you mentioned Katyn, did you say Christians or Poles?

The answer can only be: Christians, Poles, or neither. No stories.

You got it on your thrd try.

So what are the anwers?

Katyn and Auschwitz oughtn't be mentioned in the same breath. Both ghastly for sure, yet clearly not for the same reasons!

Only Russia haters do.

So far we have focused on famous Poles with Jewish background.

How about sth else for a change?

Jewish dishes and food are popular in the Polish cuisine:

carp ala Jewish (my favorite, the version with almonds and raisins)

challah

matzo

kosher slivovitz (strong vodka)

Anything else?

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Apropos Chanukkah latki, the cross-pollination between ethnic "Polish" vs. local "Jewish" cuisine
from the various shtettls cannot be overstated.

Wow, I had no idea that Jews also cook potato pancakes. Amazing.
However, there is a difference: in the Polish dish the onion is grated together with potatoes.

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Latkes.

It's a classic Jewish dish. More Jewish than Polish even. There's a lot of similarity between Ashkenazi food and Polish/Ukranian/Russian food which is understandable due to geography and available foodstuffs. Kopytki, knedle and a few other things (though the names are often slightly different). Chicken soup of course too.

A lot here that fits Polish cuisine: kosherdelightpoland.net/menu.html

There is a big connection between Polish and Polish Jewish cuisines.
Loads of " cross polination".

That's not universally appreciated; quite the opposite.

From May 2021:

Why Israelis See Polish Culture as a Joke

"The question of "Polishness" comes up for discussion occasionally, and in almost every case, it's presented in a mocking if not humiliating manner."

Link: haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.HIGHLIGHT.MAGAZINE-why-israelis-see-polish-culture-as-a-joke-1.9810371#

The Israeli article goes on to ask where the racist stereotypes come from despite some shared history between the two countries.

Another good question is why this current year article was hitherto never mentioned on PF but instead the usual suspects are at it again with their incessant fawning over all things Jewish?

Centuries of it, both cultural and genetic.

It's a crying shame that far too many Jews have little respect for the very culture to which their ancestors contributed richly, almost exclusively after 1900.

The joke is really on them, the Israelis or sundry other Jews, probably from the US, who lapse into this disgusting Pole bashing!

Yes, disgusting. However, we will love them so long and strong that one day they will also fall in love with us. Simple.

From your lips to G-d's ear:-)

Hmmm, probably they still remember how ethnic Poles expelled thousands of Jewish Poles in 1968???

These were communists who were looking for a scapegoat.

Were they dropped onto Poland from space???