What do Poles owe to Germans?

I will tweak a premise here Poland should return all the trash that occupping powers left in Poland. Like your Soviet brain for example should be sent to Moscow.

You dumb ***** , sarcasm calling.

And pawian you faking cant I will tell your german mum what you write here, even she knows better. You and ur faking german nest will not get a rest for as long as we are here to kick your german as dear - Iggy Pop Junior

What's that?

@Bratwurst Boy
Probably all posters who: Who know German, likes to speak German or is Germanophilic or has any forms of big and small connections with German language, culture or German state.

Germany (Just as Austria and Russia) is symbolically understood as black crows due to their double headed eagles or Prussia's later Germany single headed black eagle. Hence why use of nest, with double connotation and mixed meaning of "den of thieves, nest of thieves" in English. This despite the stereotypical view of Poles as criminals, especially as car thieves in Germany.

One of the reasons Polish criminals feel free or even legitimate for such actions is the small or meagre measures of punishments caused by general view of Germans and Germany, which contrasts and sabotages financial sectors and productive sectors in Poland who try to have economical fair deals with Germany.

Why criminal elements or ordinary people feel like it's no biggie to do crime if reward is big enough and risk is low enough? Due to historical animosities that is not seen as settled.

There was a lot of art, treasures and valuables that were taken out of Poland at end of ww1, but also later on in greater scale during ww2. A lot of it ended up in U.S.A. But not all, this approach of trying to put it under the carpet does not work and me myself feel it when anything unfair happens towards Germans or Germany (but also Swedes and Sweden) I tend to think" Well they deserve it, asked for it by continuing to behave like that.

It's easier to steal from a thief, since you expect the thief to steal from you regardless.

KO tries to avoid conflict so they don't want to take up this taboo really. While it creates frustration and irritation for PiS and just wants it fixed and done with (but also win political support, duh they are a political party)

Hence use of word "nest" in my opinion

I wonder how his kind would react to a re-birth of Prussia....I guess he would then wish for the current Germany back....badly! :)

@Bratwurst Boy
With same tone and words I presume, I wouldn't be surprised if he just vents his frustrations.

You keep forgetting that Prussia was a Polish province that rebelled. They managed to get away with it due to the generosity and inconsistency of Polish politics. In other words, deemed for too long as too weak and unimportant.

If I send him a few Euros out of my german wallet would that make him happy?

It would be nice if German elites changed their attitude and policies towards Poland - that might work wonders. Anything short of it I doubt it will have a desirable effect especially as you just weasled out your way of reparations.
I said Tusk is a traitor and you asked why...

Let it be....it's better that way!

If Poles re-open any question of reparation there will be their pendant on the german side, guaranteed....now with a Putin-friendly AfD rising in Germany...not so smart!

lol! BB I like you but when comes to politics you are either naive or you pretend to be native. That question will be raised regardless in the future, that is the reality of it.
I would like to have a good workable relationship with Germans (AsPoland) but I don't see any willingness to compromise on the German side.
Even you said - Oh we have been so generous and good to Poland you should accept it and be grateful or else.
Well maybe there is another war needed if we win we will show what a compromise and European civilization looks like you seem to have doubts.

Na ja....this time you would need to start and invade....maybe you have more luck with that! :)

The way it goes - a direction I mean - If Poland will jump off that wagon of doom in time it might well be that Germany surrenders on their own just to survive without a host being fired.

....that would be best! :)

.....so....soon it starts....everything is possible....

The referee is English! If we lose I can blame Jon:)

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Yes, I can! And I do it! Long live the Polish German friendship and brotherhood! Ha!! Fekk all the objectors of our alliance!

Well said, Pawian!

We should probably start a Modern Germany Appreciation Thread to counterbalance certain Germanophobic posters here. Balance in nature and all that :)

youtube.com/shorts/ueiCFxrjjeE

The balance in nature is that during WW2 we were enemies. But during WW3 we will be allies, brothers and friends. Ha!

There won't be any WWIII when we stay allies, brothers and friends....so! :)

I'll drink to that! :)

mjammi:)

*takes one to the other thread*:)

It's already on, the question is do we end up on the same side?

For you it is: to be a pathetic nationalist or not to be! The choice is yours! Ha! When will you drop that crazy nationalism and join our circle of decent Poles and Polesses??? Currently we consider you sth I prefer not to express directly coz I am too decent.

Poless is not gonna happen....

You can blame the English referee or Jon as much as you want.But the reason you lost is because you weren't good enough!

That is your forte stop projecting.

We? Who is we? You write as if you are someone special and you have monopoly here on free speech. You think that because dumb fak Donald Tusk managed to fool other fools, ever beyond their congenital defect, to the point that they think that being a leftie is a superior state of being, that it is reality? Hitler said that Slavs are subhumans , that they always need a foreign leader , otherwise they can not function, Jacek Jaśkowiak said the same thing metaphorically and similar thing outright saying that partitions were good for Poles since it showed a way of how to do things in Poland. So Poles need German invasion to show them how to do things, economic invasion is already happening in a form of EU, but people like you are happy with it , because like Hitler said , only Hitler generalised, not all of us want a leader from outside, not all of us are like you , insecure and lost. So if you are lost in Poland go somewhere else, get lost somewhere else, we don't need weak people here .

Yes, I am!


Yes, I am!


No, I am not!

Decent Germans still remember and highly praise the anticommunist Solidarity rebellion in Poland which greatly contributed to tearing down the Berlin Wall.
onet.pl/informacje/onetwiadomosci/spiecie-z-udzialem-prezydenta-niemiec-z-polska-w-tle-doszlo-do-ostrej-polemiki/zt7l8zp,79cfc278

The German writer Marko Martin publicly, in the presence of Polish Solidarity activists, reprimanded German President Frank Walter Steinmeier for maintaining close relations with Putin's Russia during a speech at the presidential residence on the occasion of the 35th anniversary of the "peaceful revolution" in the GDR, which led to the fall of communist rule and the reunification of Germany, on 9 November.

The writer, who fled the GDR for the West in May 1989, began his speech by greeting the Polish Solidarity activists who participated in the ceremony, including Bogdan Borusewicz. "Without their courage, the events of 1989 would not have happened," the writer said.

Absolutely right!

Thing is the ones who like to overlook that are still in power....like Steinmeier! It was a big story how angry and upset he became about the uncomfortable truth Martin told!