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What do Poles owe to Germans?


Alien
28 Feb 2024 #391
Because you are special?

Since you're asking, yes, we are special.
Ironside
28 Feb 2024 #392
No, moron. I hate NATO because NATO makes the US weaker, not stronger

Geez you are a certified moron. Are there many like you out there? Cluess plebs. Good luck! lol!
We are done talking. Share your thoughts with someone who cares like other political morons around you.
Novichok
28 Feb 2024 #393
Since you're asking, yes, we are special.

Who is "we"?
Miloslaw
28 Feb 2024 #394
And now children a little exercise:
Please try to make logical connection between last 5 posts and the questions of what Poland owes Germany.

Great post!It's all about America isn't it?

NATO is an alliance created by the USA, without the USA there is no NATO. Hating NATO is like hating the USA,

Correct.

Rich, you need to wise up.
Novichok
28 Feb 2024 #395
Rich, you need to wise up.

I am very wise and that's why I don't want even one American to die for some azholes outside of the US. Or for their "democracy" because we don't have it at home.

Great post!It's all about America isn't it?

Because nothing else matters to me.
Ironside
29 Feb 2024 #396
even one American to die f

Even them as you call them - *******?
OP pawian
23 Jun 2024 #397
We owe to German tourists who visit Poland and leave their euros here

A report from Międzyzdroje city close to the border:

For those who love herring the most among all sweets, we have good news - at the smoked fish stand, a fresh graham cracker with vegetables and a Baltic classic costs PLN 15, the prices of smoked fish start from PLN 8-9/100 g. I ask the seller about the clientele. . The answer is that at this time Międzyzdroje is visited mainly by Germans - for them it is still cheap, close and they feel at home here - he says with a smile.

Indeed, a German tourist can feel comfortable in Międzyzdroje. In every restaurant you will get a menu in your language, and the staff will smoothly change the language to German if necessary. Prices are given in Polish zloty, and sometimes in euro. In some stores, you can pay with both currencies interchangeably. This bilingualism is noticeable everywhere, even on banners advertising the sale of apartments in apartment buildings being built around - next to numbers with the familiar prefix +48, ​​there are also those allowing calls to a German-speaking consultant, starting with +49.

Today, the development plan provides for buildings up to 11 floors high, which developers are eagerly taking advantage of by developing additional seaside plots. Over 1,000 apartments have been built here in recent years. A large part of them was bought by neighbors from across the western border.

In the hotel where I stayed, I hear German more often than Polish. In the elevator, the morning "Guten morgen" is intertwined with "Good morning" pronounced with a distinct accent and a smile. During my stay, I shook my head at least a few times when asked: "Sprichst du Deutsch?" asked somewhere in the city, while walking on the beach or in a hotel restaurant. A waitress in a bar, dividing her attention between Polish-speaking guests and at the same time answering German tourists asking about craft beer, tells me that she prefers working in Poland than abroad. - I worked in Germany in two places, for a total of over 4 years, but what's at home is at home - she concludes.

- I'm Wanda, who married a German - laughs an old lady we meet on the beach, who asks to take a photo of her with her husband against the background of the winter Baltic Sea. - We have a fondness for this place and we like it best at this time of year - there are few people and you can relax in peace, we come for a few days in December - this is our tradition, children and grandchildren like to be here in the summer - he adds. - Misdroy ist gut - says her husband, giving me a thumbs up and waving me goodbye.

Poloniusz
23 Jun 2024 #398
I'm Wanda, who married a German - laughs an old lady we meet on the beach, who asks to take a photo of her with her husband against the background of the winter Baltic Sea.

Wanda and her German husband wouldn't have found a warm reception among Poles had they gone further east along the Baltic (unless of course they met Tusktards).

'Don't mention the war': Germans apologise for their folk singers in Gdańsk

On August 6 (2023), the folk group, which was part of an official delegation from the German region, sang the folk song Ein Heller und ein Batzen (A penny and a Dime) at the popular St Dominic's fair in the Polish city of Gdańsk.

The performance caused something of a stir in Gdańsk and a storm on Polish social media.

The tune was once a popular marching refrain used by Wehrmacht troops during the war. In Poland, it is remembered as a symbol of German Nazi occupation.

Authorities in the German region then issued a statement in which they said they deeply regretted the incident and explained there was no intention to offend anyone. That was accepted by the fair's organisers and the City of Gdańsk, where the local government is a bastion of Poland's Liberal PO party led by Donald Tusk, which the country's ruling Conservatives (PiS) regard as being pro-German.

During the presidential campaign in 2005 it was revealed that Tusk's grandfather had been a soldier conscripted into the Wehrmacht during the Second World War. The revelations outraged Tusk and his party at the time, who argued that they had been published to discredit him.

While in office (2007-2015), Tusk became a close ally of then-German Chancellor Angela Merkel and was regularly criticised by the PiS for being too accommodating to German interests and policies.


brusselssignal.eu/2023/08/dont-mention-the-war-germans-apologise-for-their-folk-singers-in-gdansk/
Alien
23 Jun 2024 #399
Who is "we

We in Europe.
Miloslaw
23 Jun 2024 #400
While in office (2007-2015), Tusk became a close ally of then-German Chancellor Angela Merkel and was regularly criticised by the PiS for being too accommodating to German interests and policies.

Which is exactly why Poles should not trust him.He is a European first and a Pole second.
Ironside
24 Jun 2024 #401
Poles should not trust him

According to Polls more people do not trust him than do trust him but still, they think for some reason he is a lesser evil we already had a lesser evil with PiS, and, sadly nobody better to choose from.
OP pawian
24 Jun 2024 #402
do not trust him

It doesn`t matter. Decent Poles and Polesses trust him and that was enough to remove rightists from power. Homo sovieticuses and nationalists don`t because they are indecent.

Poles should not trust

Stop spreading bs about Poles, go back to your sewers where you belong mentally and physically. However, I will be nice and allow you to peep out of the nearest manhole and observe how Brit gov changes after the elections. hahahaha
Torq
24 Jun 2024 #403
Decent Poles and Polesses trust him

The judgement is still out. If we don't see any progress on CPK, ports, the atomic power plant etc. in the coming months, or if Tusk ever abandons the office of Prime Minister for some comfy job in the EU (again!), then PiS will be back in power faster than you can say "für Deutschland". :)
OP pawian
24 Jun 2024 #404
don't see any progress on CPK, ports, the atomic power plant

Strange you have chosen those issues. I would say: if we don`t see any progress in getting rid of PiS apparatchiks from the courts, state companies, media and all other public institutions and we don`t see any progress in relieving the fate of women here. then rightists will be back in power faster than you can say I love Russia!!! hahahaha
Torq
24 Jun 2024 #405
Strange you have chosen those issues.

I have chosen those issues because they are vital for Poland's development, and that's what's important at the end of the day. I might also add the problems of illegal immigration or the Green (dis)Order but let's not overwhelm Mr Reverend Prime Holy Minster Tusk with too many issues at the same time. Let's rather grab some popcorn and watch. :)
wslipach
25 Jun 2024 #406
We owe germans a lot of blooshed , our stolen goods, our destroyed towns , our castles , our culture , their interferrance , and that is the tip of the iceberg of what we owe
them, and we owe you , you fatherfaking slutt, lets send you off to the german land.
Mr Grunwald
25 Jun 2024 #407
owe you , you fatherfaking slutt, lets send you off to the german land.

I would have shipped you on a North Atlantic trade route 200 years ago simply for your choice on how you use your tongue. Even if I would agree with you politically.

Despicable
TheOther
25 Jun 2024 #408
We owe germans ... our castles , our culture ...

You understand what you're saying here, right? Some truth to it, though.
Oops, dude is suspended, never mind... :)
OP pawian
2 Jul 2024 #409
Authorities in the German region then issued a statement in which they said they deeply regretted the incident and explained there was no intention to offend anyone

Exactly! They sang it without any intention to offend anyone. They didn`t even know it was Wehrmacht`s. You said yourself:

sang the folk song

See?? Much ado about nothing.

Why don`t you follow their decent example? When will you apologise for all your lies and manipulations you peddle in the forum???
Alien
3 Jul 2024 #410
They sang it without any intention to offend anyone

Of course not, the only problem is that every folk song sung in German sounds to Polish ears as if it were a Wehrmacht song.
OP pawian
3 Jul 2024 #411
every folk song sung in German sounds to Polish ears as if it were a Wehrmacht song.

Well, I imagine German soldiers sang a lot of folk songs. I only wonder - are Polish songs similarly depreciated in the countries where Poles tried to implement their colonialism?
Alien
3 Jul 2024 #412
are Polish songs similarly depreciated in the countries where Poles tried to implement their colonialism?

There weren't many of these countries. Moreover, no one in Western Europe is able to distinguish Polish from other Slavic languages.
Ironside
3 Jul 2024 #413
Where Poles tried to implement their colonialism?

Nonsense! Unless you mean Madagascar. still nonsense!
No one in Western Europe is able to distinguish Polish from other Slavic languages

Nosnsne! I should call you Mr N.
Alien
3 Jul 2024 #414
Nosnsne!

Did you say anything?👂
OP pawian
3 Jul 2024 #415
There weren't many of these countries.

Only 3 - Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania.
Mr Grunwald
4 Jul 2024 #416
@pawian
+Moldavia, Latvia, Estonia and parts of Russia (Smolensk should ring a bell)

I would say it was more downsides then utsides to it from a historic point of view. It stopped Lithuanian pagans from raiding Poland. What we got in exchange however? Time will tell
jon357
4 Jul 2024 #417
Moreover, no one in Western Europe is able to distinguish Polish from other Slavic languages.

Plenty can.
Alien
4 Jul 2024 #418
Plenty

Only those who have already had contact with the Polish language, just like you. For other people, Polish is indistinguishable from others.
Ironside
4 Jul 2024 #419
Only those

or no one?
Make up your mind, Do you know that it makes you look like a cretin-no need to thank me.
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OP pawian
4 Jul 2024 #420
+Moldavia, Latvia, Estonia and parts of Russia (Smolensk should ring a bell)

No. I meant territories and nations which Poland kept till 20th century.


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