Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond

Most of those robbers/looters were the lowest dregs of the society. Yet, they were Polish which abolishes the lies of nationalists like Ironside who claim that Poles/Polesses never did such things.


Sorry, but it did and I am posting proofs of it.

You are clearly a Nazi apologist.

The Jews at Auschwitz would not have starved if the allies did not bomb the supply. The allies new the camps were there and knew what implications were made by bombing the only way people could get food.

You are insulting the polish resistance, if they knew of such a plan to exterminate the Jews, they would have done something.

There was no such plan.

Usually they didn't starve...because they were dead. Have you ever been to Auschwitz? I always recommended a trip to Auschwitz to my Palestinian friends who studied in Poland when they wondered why Poles did not want to destroy Israel. I would like to remind you that Israel was then officially a hostile state to communist Poland.

No thanks. I have been to enough holyhoax museums in the states. Just want to point out to you, the Unites States military has always been antisemitic since the beginning. Just read letters from soldiers in the American civil war blaming the war on a Jewish conspiracy.

Winston Churchill was also antisemitic blaming communism to be Jewish and also a Jewish conspiracy. Also the British military was antisemitic.

Why don't you ask the royal air force and US air force why they bombed the supply lines to Auschwitz? They knew about the camps and knew people would starve to death.

@call1n,

I sense revisionism in your statement! Either you never saw "The Eternal Jew" in its entirety, you're in denial
as to its content or you slept through the ending:-)

Yes, Hitler had a "Madagascar Plan", sure enough. However, there's no going back on the unspeakable
facts of the film, unless of course you're not familiar with the Wannsee Conference, which is possible too.

Why are Jews the most hated group on earth?

Somebody should research this idiosyncrasy.

It all goes back to the days of Governor Pontius Pilate, when the Jews
represented a threat to Roman hegemony in the region.

...and that's why no country wants them today...

It says in the ending that Hitler will rid Europe from the Jew. That means to expel.

The Wannsee conference is a complete farce. Tell me do they explain this farce at the museum at Auschwitz?

I have full confidence that if the plan was to kill all the Jews, the Polish resistance would have got wind of it, and come to aid the Jews in escape from the camps. The reason there was no aid, is because there was no such plan.

That must have been your grandpa.
Yet, they were Polish which
Which what? Could you explain to me you F up thinking?

They didn't. That is the point. They would rather have Nazis Germans waste their resources on transporting Jews into camps that use the same resources to strengthen their war effort

Like what? What possibly could be done? eh?

They did. That is why so many in the camps starved. I do not know why you get your information from Stalin...

They could have given guns to Polish Jews. Jews do not hunt so they have no guns. The guns only came out after the allies invaded Poland. To keep your guns away from Polish Jews could only mean you heard nothing about a plot to kill all Jewish people...

No, they didn't. General air rides on German infrastructure weren't why the camps starved. Those weren't replacement camps they were camps designed to kill and starve inmates.
What BS page on the internet do you take your information from?
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What guns what Jews? Jews weren't American Jews or Israeli most of them wouldn't know what to do with those guns. Now there weren't even enough guns for the Polish resistance, Even if all those available guns were given to Jews what would they do with them? What about ammunition for those guns?
Where would they hide? Where would they live in the meantime? What food, roof over their heads, and supplies they would have? Where from?
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If your idea is that Jews would just try to shoot out with German forces every time they would encounter them you must be very young. It is not only a simple idea but simply a stupid and unrealistic scenario.
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We have an example of Jews hiding in the woods from Germans (so-called Bielski partisans), they had some weapons and they used them to rob and murder civilians in their homesteads because they resisted being robbed. I'm sure those Jews needed some food and supplies but is that a valid excuse?

Dude, who ate your brain?

That is not even funny...

In Auschwitz-Birkenau camp alone around 1 million Jews, 70 000 Poles, 21 000 Roma people and 14 000 Soviet POWs were murdered. It would be simply impossible to save so many people in an occupied country. Your anti-Semitism damaged your brain lol

Before 1989 the reported total figure of deaths at Auschwitz was 4 million.

It is not true. The real reason Jews died in the camps was due to the allies bombing the supply lines, and it was not that many.
Anthony Wiener, Jeff Epstien and Harvey Wienstien... YOUR FRIENDS THE JEWS...
The real reason the supply lines were bombed is because the American military knew about the camps and knew what would happen... knew what they were doing, and the American military is completely anti antisemitic and has been since the American civil war...

@call1n, you're sick in the head.


That was the Soviet Union estimate. The Nazis destroyed most of the documentation, so it wasn't known how many exactly people were murdered. The Soviet committee made a mathematical estimate - they took into consideration the number of days and the capacity of crematoria. According to the report of Witold Pilecki, who was a prisoner of Auschwitz-Birkenau camp himself, it could be from 2 million to 5 million people.

A quote from Wikipedia (my translation from Polish):

"When I went out from Auschwitz (27.04.1943) 97 000 prisoners with tattooed numbers were murdered. That number had nothing to do with with the number of undocumented people who were being gassed and burned by their masses. Over two million of them were killed. I've given those numbers roughly in order not to exaggerate. My colleagues, who were prisoners for longer than me and witnessed 8000 people being gassed a day, give the estimate of 5 million people."

So, the problem was that up to 80% people who were sent to Auschwitz-Birkenau camp didn't get to be prisoners - after arrival at the camp they were sent straight to gas chambers and burnt. Those were Jews from Poland and all over Europe.
So, there was even no bodies that you could count after the camp was liberated.

As you can see - those higher numbers weren't due to some kind of ill will or intent to fool people. Over the years due to historical research those numbers were simply verified.

Take your Stalinist propaganda, and shove it into the ******** of the Pilots of the RAF and American air-force who bombed the supply lines to Auschwitz causing starvation.

Science = the option to come to your own conclusions.

What is portrayed on Wikipedia and holocaust museums is not science... it is some kind of religious icon where it is considered heresy to go against it.

As far as Poland is concerned... the pope called circumcision to be a mutilation and illegal. That it can only be done for medical reasons... well there is not medical reason to such. So it is illegal. So tell all these penis heads, and their penis head war... Get the **** out of Poland...

I would like to point out that these gentlemen do not wear penises on their heads but sidelocks, or in Polish "pejsy".

But Witold Pilecki wasn't a Stalinist, you dumb asswipe lol


The starvation in Auschwitz wasn't caused by any bombing. It was due to food rations arbitrarily fixed by the Nazis - those food rations were too small to survive in the camp conditions. According to the estimate by the Nazis themselves they were enough to survive for around 3 months. They knew what they were doing. The only clothes that prisoners had to wear, no matter the weather and season, were underwear and thin striped clothes. That wasn't due to "Allied bombings" either. The Nazis simply wanted the Jews to die and they didn't care if the non-Jewish prisoners will live or die either.


No, that is exactly your mindset. Your Holocaust denial is your faith. You don't care about facts, evidence, witnesses and historical research. You believe against all historical knowledge that Holocaust didn't happen, because you want to believe.


Fortunately you don't get to decide who can live in Poland and who can't :))) And, btw, ty się chyba z dupą na głowę zamieniłeś :D

Wrong. The estimates were around 3 million.

How do you estimate that? At 3 million, they would have to kill 3,000 a day and burn them for 3 years. Was that possible? The current million seems more realistic.

Welcome to debating with Poles.

Pawian wrote "were", not "are".


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You mean a certain type of Poles, surely :)

I didn`t say it was possible. I only recounted what I remembered from my childhood and youth - everybody was talking about 3 million in 1970s and 80s. You should remember it too if you are Polish. :):):)

Well it was sure a start, Rich!

Back then, such news was accepted uncritically, including by me.

This whole forums subject is dominated by Stalinist.