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Have Poles blood on their hands? :)


TheOther 6 | 3,667
11 Jan 2010 #331
The Poles could collect lots of information, too, and educate the world

Sorry to be blunt: you want a Polish version of the Jewish Holocaust industry?
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,865
11 Jan 2010 #332
...but, as I said - I will consider your idea.

Yeah...maybe it would be interesting to shed some light on the story....
ShortHairThug - | 1,101
11 Jan 2010 #333
you want a Polish version of the Jewish Holocaust industry?

Why not? Since the Jewish version is not interested in truth and justice but rather its greed driven. Their only concern is how much compensation they can ask for. Anyone who questions anything is just an anti-Semite anyway; the ones that do accept their view as gospel are just an ignorant bunch too lazy to look up the facts and ready to accept whatever is presented to them so it won’t make a difference anyway. But the fact remains, you can only discover the truth by yourself; otherwise you just accept someone else’s opinion anyway, so what difference dose it make whose’ version you subscribe to, a lie is a lie if you know it or not.
kith 1 | 69
11 Jan 2010 #334
No, I want a Polish version of the Polish and Jewish and Gypsy (etcetera) Holocaust. Is that wrong of me to want? I want the WHOLE story, do you see? Don't you agree?

There are Jews who know how much the Poles helped them. Then, there are the Sheeple who simply want to hate. Those Sheeple want to hate Poles and others and they want to believe that only they suffered. It's not true. We all suffered. There are Jews who know this, but they're beaten down by the Sheeple. Don't confuse the two. Yes, to the Sheeple (not to the good people), you're an anti-semite if you so much as question them. This is why you need your own museums, your own forum for the truth to come out.

No, I don't want a Polish version of the Jewish Holocaust. I want a Polish version of the Polish and Jewish and Gypsy (etcetera) Holocaust. Am I wrong to want that?
matteroftaste
11 Jan 2010 #335
Have Poles blood on their hands? :)

well to be honest who doesn't?
kith 1 | 69
11 Jan 2010 #336
Since the Jewish version is not interested in truth and justice but rather its greed driven. Their only concern is how much compensation they can ask for.

There are Jews who know how much the Poles helped them. Then, there are the Jews who are Sheeple. I was hoping that Harry wasn't one of them. These Sheeple believe that they are the only people who suffered. The good people don't believe that; they know that we all suffered. Don't confuse good people with Sheeple. Yes, I've come across Sheeple who, if you innocently question something, immediately believe you must be an anti-semite. It seems like there are people who want to believe that only they suffered. I've had African Americans tell me that they suffered more than the Jews. I've had Jews tell me that they suffered more than African Americans. Why can't we all agree that we've all suffered and leave it at that? Why does it have to be a competition?
kith 1 | 69
11 Jan 2010 #338
Sheep + People = sheeple. People who act like sheep (simple minded, easily led, don't think for themselves, allow others to think for them and so they're easily swayed) are now referred to as sheeple.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheeple

urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sheeple
Mr Grunwald 32 | 2,176
12 Jan 2010 #339
Wisła Kraków - Schalke 04 game on TV,

and I thought I saw a shadow of a smile on the face of my neighbour's father
when Schalke scored a goal...

I would smiled too...
Milicyjne gnójowki!

guess I was wrong.

Been trying to educate people it's the SPIRIT! That matters :)
Who cares how you pronunce "NO" when everyone gives you a grim face!

One doesn't need to know how to write Kurwa to carry the Polish flag!!

What is "sheeple"?

Just so you wouldn't feel dumb I had the same question :p
TheOther 6 | 3,667
12 Jan 2010 #340
No, I want a Polish version of the Polish and Jewish and Gypsy (etcetera) Holocaust. Is that wrong of me to want?

Yes, it would be wrong simply because you would end up with just another half true version of history. This time from a Polish perspective, which isn't necessarely the truth (and nothing but the truth...) either. If you want something that comes close to what really happened, then you will probably have to combine the Jewish, Polish and German (and maybe even Russian) versions of history.
Harry
12 Jan 2010 #341
Yes, it would be wrong simply because you would end up with just another half true version of history.

You hit the nail on the head there!
1jola 14 | 1,879
12 Jan 2010 #342
BB, I saw you were reading about Manstein. You might be interested in this film:

quicksilverscreen.com/watch?video=36876

or a few other ones here:

forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=146758&start=0
yehudi 1 | 433
12 Jan 2010 #343
you're an anti-semite if you so much as question them

There's nothing antisemitic about questioning the Jewish narrative. What's antisemitic is perpetuating stereotypes like this...

Since the Jewish version is not interested in truth and justice but rather its greed driven. Their only concern is how much compensation they can ask for.

We Jews won't be satisfied till you give us our pound of christian flesh.
SeanBM 35 | 5,797
12 Jan 2010 #344
Have Poles blood on their hands? :)

I think it s just barszcz czerwony stains left over from Christmas :)
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,865
12 Jan 2010 #345
I saw you were reading about Manstein. You might be interested in this film:

Thanks Jola..:)
Bzibzioh
12 Jan 2010 #346
kith: No, I want a Polish version of the Polish and Jewish and Gypsy (etcetera) Holocaust. Is that wrong of me to want?

Yes, it would be wrong simply because you would end up with just another half true version of history.

There is no Polish WW2 narrative in Western consciousness. There is Holocaust and some German propaganda leftovers (Polish cavalry attacking German tanks) and that's all. How many WW2 Western-made movies from Polish POV did you see?
Harry
12 Jan 2010 #347
How many WW2 Western-made movies from Polish POV did you see?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defiance_%282008_film%29 - This one for a start.
kith 1 | 69
12 Jan 2010 #348
No, I want a Polish version of the Polish and Jewish and Gypsy (etcetera) Holocaust.

This is my point exactly. I hope you get what I'm saying here. You have the Jewish version of what happened. No, wait, you have differing Jewish versions of what happened. One version is that many different peoples suffered. The other version, the Sheeple version, is that only Jews suffered and ALL Poles are the scum of the earth.

Therefore, I agree with you here: I want the whole truth out, not separate versions which are not completely truthful.
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To Yehudi:

kith:
you're an anti-semite if you so much as question them

*There's nothing antisemitic about questioning the Jewish narrative.*

Right, there's nothing wrong with it, but some people act as though there is something wrong with questioning.

*What's antisemitic is perpetuating stereotypes like this...*

ShortHairThug:
Since the Jewish version is not interested in truth and justice but rather its greed driven. Their only concern is how much compensation they can ask for.

We Jews won't be satisfied till you give us our pound of christian flesh.

Yes, I know. I don't like this stereotype, either. What pisses me off about Thug is that he/she makes a sweeping statement. What I mean is this: There are (as I've said) Jews who celebrate and thank Poles for what they did to protect Jews. Then, you have the Sheeple who just seem to want to hate. It's to those people whom Thug should address his remarks. He doesn't, though. He make a sweeping statement and that statement is played out on Jewish websites, no the Sheeple websites, where they say, "You see? I TOLD you that all Poles are anti-semetic!" It's not true, but it takes one jackass like Thug to ruin things for ME (and all other good Poles)>
Harry
12 Jan 2010 #349
The other version, the Sheeple version, is that only Jews suffered and ALL Poles are the scum of the earth.

Have you actually been to any of the camps? If you have, you should go again and this time take off your blindfold.
kith 1 | 69
12 Jan 2010 #350
No, I haven't been. I hope to go someday. So, you're saying that no Gypsies, Czechs, Poles or anyone else suffered?
Harry
12 Jan 2010 #351
So, you're saying that no Gypsies, Czechs, Poles or anyone else suffered?

I'm saying that you should go and have a look at the museums at the camps: they make it very clear who suffered.
kith 1 | 69
12 Jan 2010 #352
O.k., gottcha, I really do understand where you're coming from, but are you saying that no Poles, Gypsies or Czechs or other suffered? I'm saying that 6 million Jews were brutally tortured and murdered. I'm also saying that the same happened of 7 million Christians.

What I'm trying to get at is, oh, I just don't know how to make this any clearer, . . . Do you believe that no one else suffered? That's what I'm getting at.
Harry
12 Jan 2010 #353
Do you believe that no one else suffered? That's what I'm getting at.

What do you mean by else? People other than who?
kith 1 | 69
12 Jan 2010 #354
You know that 6 million Jews suffered, were tortured, were senselessly murdered. Did you also know that 7 million Christians suffered and were tortured and murdered?
Raj_ryder 10 | 106
12 Jan 2010 #355
What do you mean by else? People other than who?

from what i can gather, i think he is talking about the local polish population...which is kinda dumb of course they suffered its a fricking war isnt it?

but the degree of suffering between jews and poles was different.
nobody i think in his right mind would deny thats poles didnt suffer...but i dont think that any race on this planet suffered as much as the jews
Harry
12 Jan 2010 #356
You know that 6 million Jews suffered, were tortured, were senselessly murdered. Did you also know that 7 million Christians suffered and were tortured and murdered?

Did you know that you are a fecking moron?

but i dont think that any race on this planet suffered as much as the jews

The Romani people suffered a higher death rate in terms of percentage of population killed. The Nazis even managed to kill one of the Romani languages.
kith 1 | 69
12 Jan 2010 #357
nobody i think in his right mind would deny thats poles didnt suffer...but i dont think that any race on this planet suffered as much as the jews

Okay, it's just that some people don't even know that Gypsies, Poles, etc. suffered, too. This goes back to my earlier post: African Americans have told me that they suffered more than the Jews. Jews have told me that they suffered more than the AAs. It's like it's some kind of competition. I'm saying, let's not make it a competition. Let's agree that there was horrible suffering all around.

Harry:

kith:
You know that 6 million Jews suffered, were tortured, were senselessly murdered. Did you also know that 7 million Christians suffered and were tortured and murdered?
Did you know that you are a fecking moron?

Oh, come on, Harry. Don't be mean. I'm just trying to make sense of it all. Just how am I a moron? By telling the truth. I guess you really are one of the Sheeple. There's hope for you, though. I'm here for you, brother. Let me help you.
vetala - | 382
12 Jan 2010 #358
Did you also know that 7 million Christians suffered and were tortured and murdered?

Does anyone remember those 20 million Russians?
Harry
12 Jan 2010 #359
I'm here for you, brother. Let me help you.

Yes, please do tell me all about the holocaust, I'm sure that you know so much more about it than I could possibly ever know. Idiot.
kith 1 | 69
12 Jan 2010 #360
Harry, why am I an idiot?


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