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Poland rightwingers` bonds with PRL communist regime


OP pawian 223 | 24,375
21 Oct 2020 #151
It is pretty Kremlin trollish of you to suggest that they stopped. Ha! The Kremlin never stops..
Vesko Vukovic - | 83
21 Oct 2020 #152
In principle, Russia did what it wanted.

youtu.be/xZJ-BobCyok

She wanted to deal with the Islamists outside her borders and did not want to wait for them to come to the Caucasus. She decided to destroy them in Syria, which she succeeded in doing.

citizentruth.org/syria-another-pipeline-war/
Her other strategic goal was to prevent the West from pumping gas into the Mediterranean. She did the same.

globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815/amp
The third strategic goal is to block the Oded Yinon plan. She also successfully blocked it.

Whether Russia is ready to match the United States or not, it showed the moment it regained Crimea and later when it entered Syria where it became a major factor. If America was ready to oppose Russia, then it would enter into an open and direct conflict with Russia over Crimea. However, apart from barking, they did not have the courage to do anything concrete.
OP pawian 223 | 24,375
21 Oct 2020 #153
However, apart from barking, they did not have the courage to do anything concrete.

Exactly. And the same thing will happen to Poland one day. But rightards can`t see it coz they live in their own maniacal world, cherishing their pathetic delusions.
gumishu 13 | 6,140
21 Oct 2020 #154
If America was ready to oppose Russia

do you want America to start a war with Russia? do you realize that both have nuclear arsenals?

And the same thing will happen to Poland one day

yeah, The Russians will invade through Kaliningrad and they will stop after taking Braniewo - that's what the Ukrainian case teaches us
gumishu 13 | 6,140
21 Oct 2020 #155
Ha! The Kremlin never stops..

I knew you would the deflect the question
OP pawian 223 | 24,375
21 Oct 2020 #156
If you thought I would assist you in yuor Kremlin trolling, then you were wrong! Forget it!

The Russians will invade through Kaliningrad and they will stop after taking Braniewo -

Poles had said so before the first partition. And then there was the second and third. Why are rightards so lousy at history?
gumishu 13 | 6,140
21 Oct 2020 #157
If you thought I would assist you in yuor Kremlin trolling,

if I say that I am in favour of Polish-American alliance wouldn't it be a bit schizophrenic of me to say that we should ally with Russia as well?
Vesko Vukovic - | 83
22 Oct 2020 #158
@pawian

I think that the West made a mistake here, because it was easy to win the elections in Ukraine without a coup and put its marionette at the head of the government. The West has always been ready to invest a lot of money in changing governments, in media propaganda, in manipulating public opinion, and so on. The Russians, on the other hand, obviously do not want to invest money in such things.

If Russia wanted, it could have brought RT to Poland a long time ago. However, instead, they took RT to distant Spain.

But let's go back to the Maidan. As I said, the West could have gotten it without a colored revolution, but it encountered a Russian provocation when to Obama the Russians took out the first tomahawks near Syria at the end of August 2013, which was the first unofficial attack on Syria. Then Obama allegedly changed his mind and said that he would first ask for the permission of the Congress, and the Congress, of course, did not approve it. Immediately two months after that, a miracle happened on the Maidan.....

The Americans had a plan to open a base in Sevastopol and bring in rockets, and now everything fell into the water for them.

they invaded Ukraine? I know we have a genius strategist on board so I'll ask you why the hell did they stop

The Russians chose the best option. Instead of open conflict and invasion (which would require hundreds of thousands and maybe even a million lives), they decided to starve them out. The so-called Ukraine is slowly but surely descending to the standard of living of Zimbabwe, and the so-called Ukrainians now have the opportunity to feel all the benefits of the West, Western values and Western democracy, from which they expected honey and milk and will not get even dry bread. It is only a matter of time and the hungry people will hang the "euromaidanists" in the middle of the same Maidan square.
Paulina 16 | 4,364
29 Nov 2020 #159
@Vesko Vukovic, Of course that Russia is ready to invest money and other resources into changing governments (or keeping them), in media propaganda, in manipulating public opinion and so on - it has proven this more than once.

Also, you didn't do your research - RT has been available in Poland for quite some time now - I've had it already on two different cable TVs.
Novichok 4 | 7,927
29 Nov 2020 #160
The Americans had a plan to open a base in Sevastopol and bring in rockets,

...to stir up s**t and justify more money we don't have for that corrupt crap we call MI complex. Putin beat them to it. Good Putin. Hello, Crimea. Welcome back...
jon357 74 | 22,054
18 Feb 2021 #161
go and search PiS ranks.

They are peas (pis) from the same pod.
OP pawian 223 | 24,375
15 Apr 2021 #162
A wonderful example of the traditional bond between communist apparatchiks and the rightwing rulers. The Constitutional Tribunal ruled that the country's human rights commissioner can't remain in the post indefinitely after the end of his term until a successor is chosen.

Facts: The Chairperson of the Tribunal, Julia Przyłębska, was a member of communist youth organisation in late 1970s.
The main judge who promoted the ruling is Stanisław Piotrowicz, the former communist prosecutor who accused anti-regime opposition members in 1980s during the communist martial law.

How nice.

Read more to learn how rightards are trying to remove the ombudsman and turn the post into parody:
startribune.com/polish-court-rules-ombudsman-must-leave-office-at-term-end/600046164/
OP pawian 223 | 24,375
15 Apr 2021 #163
Stanisław Piotrowicz, the former communist prosecutor who accused anti-regime opposition members

And he dared to claim that he had helped them, by sentencing them only to 1-3 years imprisonment - after all, they could gotten 5 years or more.

Wait! Comrade Piotrowicz wants to help you!! hahaha



Miloslaw 19 | 4,914
15 Apr 2021 #164
@pawian

Just answer the question.......
OP pawian 223 | 24,375
15 Apr 2021 #165
Milo, what do you think about ruling rightards who employ former confirmed communists? Somebody told me you don`t like communists. Is that true???

Comrade Piotrowicz was awarded the Bronze Cross of Merit by his communist superiors. What for?

Disciplined! Ambitious! Hard-working! Efficient! He works as the leader of party training programme.



Miloslaw 19 | 4,914
15 Apr 2021 #166
Milo, what do you think about ruling rightards who employ former confirmed communists?

I don't care if they are right or left wing.
I would regard them all as traitors, as I do PIS.
OP pawian 223 | 24,375
15 Apr 2021 #167
all as traitors, as I do PIS.

Holy words.

I love this one the best:

Piotrowicz - the vicitm of comunist oppression.

He was brutally promoted a few times in 1980s. He was forced to take a communst party executive position. In 1984 he was accused of being disciplined and efficient as a prosecutor and in result, he was inhumanely awarded the Bronze Cross of Merit.



Miloslaw 19 | 4,914
15 Apr 2021 #168
@pawian

Polish politics is pretty corrupt.
Poland still has a long way to go.
But hey, politics in "The West" is not much better.
More and more people are becoming disillusioned with politics.
Novichok 4 | 7,927
15 Apr 2021 #169
More and more people are becoming disillusioned with politics.

Because they realize that "democracy" is a Civic 101 lie and "democracies" are unsustainable frauds where majorities are slaves working for the ruling mobs busily playing favorites for votes that they still need. Autocratic systems are the same minus playing one group against another and the corruption that comes with it.
OP pawian 223 | 24,375
15 Apr 2021 #170
the corruption that comes with it.

Darling, don`t you know that the corruption is an inseperable element of autocratic systems coz they are deprived of internal control mechanisms? I am really surprised at your ignorance.
Novichok 4 | 7,927
15 Apr 2021 #171
don`t you know that the corruption is an inseperable element of autocratic systems

Maybe. At least the Chinese get secure borders and sustainability. Poland does, too, but only because it's too poor to pay decent welfare to the foreign scum. Poland's poverty is its greatest weapon against the invading hordes.
OP pawian 223 | 24,375
16 Apr 2021 #172
Polish politics is pretty corrupt.

Yes, those rightwingers are horrible thieves - like locust..
Novichok 4 | 7,927
16 Apr 2021 #173
In the history of mankind, the leftist scum was always as honest as pawian's K students. I was going to say like Mother Teresa, but that crook would be a bad example.
OP pawian 223 | 24,375
16 Apr 2021 #174
I didn`t say that the left were innocent, immaculate and spotless. I only see the difference between the left, centre and rightwing rulers in Poland during the last 32 years after the collapse of communism - current rightwinger rulers are the most ferocious locust of all - they leech the country as if there was no tomorrow. hahaha.
Novichok 4 | 7,927
16 Apr 2021 #175
Yes, you did by a deliberate omission.
It's rulerz.

I didn`t say that the left were innocent, immaculate and spotless.

That lame line reminds of a mother convicted of murdering her kids saying, "I never said I was a perfect mother." No sh*it.
OP pawian 223 | 24,375
16 Apr 2021 #176
Yes, you did by a deliberate omission

No way. I meant current rulers in that post. Try to show more intelligence while talking to me. :):)

mother convicted of murdering her kids

Your mind is certainly really troubled with those murder visions on which you relish.
Novichok 4 | 7,927
16 Apr 2021 #177
Your mind is certainly really troubled

...by the morons who profess to be life-givers and turn out to be life takers - before or after birth.
OP pawian 223 | 24,375
18 Jul 2022 #178
PiS chairman, Kaczyński, doesn`t mind having an associate who used to be a communist police informer.

wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/proces-lustracyjny-kujdy-sad-wspolpracownik-kaczynskiego-byl-agentem-sb/2nf8nb6

The District Court in Warsaw found that the lustration declaration made by Kazimierz Kujda was untrue. He has been a longtime associate of Jarosław Kaczyński and the former president of the Srebrna company. Kujda was registered as a secret collaborator by the communist Security Service and his nickname was "Ryszard". He personally signed a commitment to cooperate and wrote reports to the security services about his trips abroad. He was recruited in 1979 at the age of 27.

Information about Kujda's cooperation in 2021 was confirmed by the Vetting Office of the Institute of National Remembrance .


In October 2021, Kujda was appointed to the supervisory board of Polish Gas Company. He also took the position of the chairman of the council. PSG is the largest company of the PGNiG Group and the largest gas distribution system operator in Europe.

Mr Kaczyński has always known about his man`s dirty past. And did nothing with it and him.
Interesting coz it shows PiS` hypocrisy - their ideology is to cleanse Poland of communist heritage, yet they love keeping former communist agents or activists in their ranks.
KorkiTaczer - | 114
19 Jul 2022 #179
used to be a communist police informer

You are still at it, monkey boy ;)

hypocrisy

Sure, tell us something about Stasiu Hoc, KGB operative and the latest expert employed by your beloved Tuskinsyn ;)))
OP pawian 223 | 24,375
19 Jul 2022 #180
You are still at it, monkey boy ;)

Yes, it is the only way to drag you out of your lair and fetch here. :):):)

the latest expert

He is the expert who participated in many projects concerning national security in free Poland. And he never tried to hide his past.
While Kaczyński`s close associate, Kujda, was not only a communist agent but also lied about his past. And Kaczyński knew about it and happily accepted although officially his party`s objective is to get rid of communist influence in Poland.

There is a difference, as you see.


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