Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians?

Finally. When you do not understand the reasoning behind someone’s babbling about “justice” and “historical facts”, just follow the money. Thank you Celincki. Your future posts on this topic will not have any credentials.

Do I detect fear in your voice? LOL


I think if you read you will find a few comments. Maybe I will come just to pay respect to my families graves.

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cQR3Ya8embw

good luck:0. So it is about the land after all=money. Aren't you being a hypocrite?

What's going on here ? Leave UPAs alone and let's kick the Gerries.

Maybe for her, but I have never followed the scent of money, only facts.

Right. I guess if you could put a price on Grandmothers, uncles and aunts. You really don't get it Miranda.

or Greg.

I am going to write to Juszczenko to give me some monetary compensation for defending the Ukrainin nation. After all it is his job.

Filios1 and Celinski,

There are some issues that cannot be solved. The alleged Ukrainian oppressors are dead. At least most of them. Ukraine was not a country so their government cannot be held accountable since there the Ukrainian government's continuity is not yet 20 years old.

So what do you propose? Should we kill a few thousands, or millions of young Ukrainians and call it even? That would likely make Filios1's god happy.

Do you realize that your stance is an anachronism? It's fine to study history, but to carry over the hatred of years past into today is plain stupid and dangerous. If I were in a position to decide what to do about the Polish-Ukrainian issues I'd throw into a jail both of you, and all with views similar to yours - Poles and Ukrainians. I would then throw away the. On a good day I'd allow you to be fed.

or you...

Again. This only shows me Miranda, that you are obviously already for one side, and that is o.k. In the end, you have that right, and I respect you. But show some respect for the dead ones, and the ones who suffered. There is no price that you can put on a family member. I would give everything in this world to see some of my family again..

What about a simple memorial placed in Ukraine with names.

And to think, you call yourself a Pole. What a disgrace.

Work on that then. Don't incite hatred and constant recalculations who owes what to who. There's gotta be a starting point ans many people reached it already. You will a be late comer.

I'm off to the kitchen. I'll be cooking Ukrainian borsch today.


The only disgrace I see here is your nazi style propaganda and the need to continually incite hatred. All you'll achieve will be a few bubbles of foam in your mouth produced by your uncontrollable anger. That's all. Save yourself some time and do something useful.

Of course it’s all about the money. When you have the people who live in the past, it’s always about the money. They dream how rich they would be if the history was different or what mansion they would live in (like in Celinski’s case). Their hatred comes from their inability to prosper or live a good life in the present time.

Flilios, Celinski,

I agree what Dariusz wrote. Could not have put it better myself.

I understand that you are seeing in me a representation of all those bad things which happend to Poles but I am not going to give in to your sentiments. You are just being unrealistic dreamers.

Now I need some borsch.

Yes, maybe, or else I may just be able to sway enough people to see the truth. Thanks for your input, creep.


Yes, we are being unrealistic, to think that someone could listen to the light of reason is rather unrealistic. But anyway, there is always God who will judge in the end, who is right and who is wrong.

You are right Grzegorz. We should be concentrating on the real or potential threats to Poland not on what happened in the past. The best way for Poland to protect itself in the future conflicts is to have nuclear weapons. And the best way to achieve it is to have a partner such as Ukraine for which it would be easy to develop that type of weapons

I am all set in my life. What drive me is what happened to my family. Did they deserve to die? Seems to me it is not I that protects the wallet? Stop pretending if you insult loud enough we will forget our loved ones.

celinski you do you speak Polish ?

then you should find likeminded people who can share the same experiance, instead of winding people on PF - that would be more productive.

Did you meet you grandmother?

isnt this the truth :)


isnt that the truth..

Are you referring to yourself and Abnormal Russian. I'm sorry if the truth hurts, it is not just yourself that was a victim. If it winds you up so much you can go to another question.

So, what happened to your family? You just told us that they were sent to Siberia. How is it connected to your hatred towards Ukrainians.

and you have a nerve to invoke god? You offend and intire nation calling them barbarians, you live in the past filled with hatred and you have a nerve to invoke god?

Your rotten mind is beyond repair.

I was referring to you. I suggested a practical approach with some productive solutions as a result, but you are obviously not tinterested in taking such venue.

I, on the other hand will not take a responsibility for something I didn't do.

I never said I hated anyone. My family lived in eastern Poland. Wolyn was where our home was located. In fact we had Ukraine's and Jewish living on our estate. My grandfather taught men and boys to read and write. I have documents that it was the Ukraine family that saved my grandfather from being shot vs. going to Siberia.

This does not make what took place 1942 OK. It was not OK and although Ukraine said they would say sorry, they have yet to do this.

Forgiveness is divine!! Can't hold nations to account for the actions of lunatics of a bygone era. The young generation can move on and accept that building on present, positive international relations is the way forward. Celinski, u have every right to feel aggrieved but it will only give u cancer if u bear grudges.

I recommend Desiderata 2 u Celinski. God give me the courage to accept the things I cannot change. I won't give u the rest but it is prophetic. Russia and Germany don't rub history in the faces of Poles. Hitler and Stalin were mad and terrorised their own people, fact!! U need to meet decent, apologetic folk who want to wipe the slate clean

I have noticed that Poles get along with Ukrainians quite well.Other forces made them collide.Ukrainians do not accuse Poles either.
I remind what the SS Oberfuhrer of Ukraine Koch said:My greatest success will be when every Pole has only one wish,to kill as many Ukrainians as possible and when every Ukrainian strives to kill every Pole.

Good comment from southern, I've seen that too. So, where r u from?