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Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians?


Filios1 8 | 1,336
9 Feb 2008  #181
I repeat, God will judge who is right, and who is wrong. The deaths of my blood brothers will not go unpunished.

My friend, my mind is working quite well. I am not sick, like you.

You offend and intire nation calling them barbarians

Oh? I offended? I must not have noticed. I invoked TRUTH, my friend, not hatred. Polish Patriots are what keeps that country afloat and alive, and where it is today.
celinski 31 | 1,258
9 Feb 2008  #182
U need to meet decent, apologetic folk who want to wipe the slate clean

Yes this is so true. It is like Russia now saying the Germans were responsable for "Katyn". The more they do this the worse they look. Poland has been abused by so many and silenced into not speaking the truth. I on the other hand know the truth and can stand up for the victims.

Ukraine relationships should be built on honesty, trust, respect. They are closer than many believe. A solid foundation vs. continued false history. What gets me is everyone knows the truth and not saying it makes the relationship false. Why not just deal with it so the future can have this trust?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
9 Feb 2008  #183
There do need to be Polish patriots to stand up for the country but it needs to be tainted with realism. The old generation will keep up the fight but let's learn from the likes of Kwaśniewski who got right royally wan*ered drinking Nemiroff and the like in Ukraine. He was feeling the good vibes then.
TRAISKIRCHEN - | 23
9 Feb 2008  #184
This does not make what took place 1942 OK. It was not OK and although Ukraine said they would say sorry, they have yet to do this.

Your grandfather was saved by the Ukrainian family, and this is how you are paying off to the nation your grandfather's savers were belong to!!!!

It's unbelievable. But as I said before you just have to follow the money. Your innocent request for the Ukraine to say sorry is not so innocent. You live in the states and learned quite well that the first step in admission of guilt is to say "sorry". You know perfectly well that for Ukraine to apologize, as you demand, is the first step in admitting to be guilty in something which the whole nation was not involved at all. And you as a citizen of this great country know that after you admit to be guilty - you pay, you pay big money.

So, please do not sound so innocent asking for Ukraine to say sorry. We know that the real reason of you "exposing Ukraine's guilt" is to get a monetary compensation for the estate your family left behind.
celinski 31 | 1,258
9 Feb 2008  #185
But as I said before you just have to follow the money.

If you knew anything you would be aware of the aggreement from Poland to settle with the land owners. This was decided in 1945 and all countries have put money toward this. If it was up to me compensation would not come from Ukraine but the real country responsable, Russia. With that out of the way.

It is my roots to Ukraine that I see need for dealing with this past. It would serve to bring a trust and respect into the relationship.
OP MareGaea 29 | 2,752
9 Feb 2008  #186
Good to see that a simple question can raise a pretty decent discussion, as far as I've read the comments...
How about the Jews? How is the general treatment of the Jews in Poland?

M-G (is half Jewish)
TRAISKIRCHEN - | 23
9 Feb 2008  #187
How is the general treatment of the Jews in Poland?

The Jews in Poland are treated quite well. But do not ask Jews themselves this questions. It’s advantageous to play a victim card, you’ll gain more.
celinski 31 | 1,258
9 Feb 2008  #188
Good to see that a simple question can raise a pretty decent discussion,

So much so they stuck us in off topic. I was reading that Poland is very good to Jewish today in Poland.
miranda
9 Feb 2008  #189
How about the Jews? How is the general treatment of the Jews in Poland?

there are some threads on this forum, look them up.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
9 Feb 2008  #190
The Jews can work wonders for the Polish economy. They really are shrewd and have sound business acumen. Look at the positions they have gotten into in America. The Poles have yet to fully accept Jews due to past shady dealings but the position is looking rosier.
Filios1 8 | 1,336
9 Feb 2008  #191
The Poles have yet to fully accept Jews due to past shady dealings but the position is looking rosier.

What are you kidding me? Jews were accepted before any other country in Europe, and were doing very well for themselves since the early middle ages. There were always some ignorants who were anti-semetic, but there is always some sentiment like that, in every country. Even America.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
9 Feb 2008  #192
Not fully accepting and being anti-semitic are two different things my Greek amigo. Trust me, many Poles are still wary of the wily żyd ripping them off. This is not being anti-semitic, this is watching out for possible cheating.
OP MareGaea 29 | 2,752
9 Feb 2008  #193
due to past shady dealings

Hm, even I, being half Jewish (maternal sided, so I guess according to religious laws I am full blown Jew, but I am not religious as such, therefore I regard myself as half Jew), was ripped off by a Jewish landlord once, all the while saying that I should feel a brotherly love or something. Yeah, all good and so on, but this brotherly love should not cost me twice the normal price, if you know what I mean...

M-G
Seanus 15 | 19,706
9 Feb 2008  #194
I'm not anti-semitic but have heard numerous similar stories, not without foundation I'd imagine. Playing on sentiment is shady in itself. Where was his brotherly love?
OP MareGaea 29 | 2,752
9 Feb 2008  #195
Where was his brotherly love?

I guess anywhere outside his wallet...But you know, that's just one person; not all of the Jewish ppl are like that - I for one have never ripped anyone off, wouldn't even know how to do that :)

M-G
Seanus 15 | 19,706
9 Feb 2008  #196
First time for everything M-G, hehehe
Filios1 8 | 1,336
9 Feb 2008  #197
Please stop signing every post with M-G. It is quite annoying, thank you.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
9 Feb 2008  #198
He wants to be like Bill Clinton and leave his mark Filios1
southern 75 | 7,097
9 Feb 2008  #199
Please stop signing every post with M-G

It is better to sign with MC.
miranda
9 Feb 2008  #201
I see I have done my job properly :)

no, you didn't;)
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
9 Feb 2008  #202
Look at the positions they have gotten into in America.

They got their position supporting one another without any mercy for Goys. That's all.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
9 Feb 2008  #203
As I said, look at the positions they have gotten into in America
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
9 Feb 2008  #204
And how would that be good for Poland If they did the same here ?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
9 Feb 2008  #205
They have advanced business know-how, capital generation skills that many Poles don't have. They make better use of contacts and work better in groups, agreed? The Polish economy could benefit from that expertise. Poles are relatively new to capitalism.
southern 75 | 7,097
9 Feb 2008  #206
Leave the Jews in Israel.
OP MareGaea 29 | 2,752
9 Feb 2008  #207
Where was his brotherly love?

I guess anywhere outside his wallet...But you know, that's just one person; not all of the Jewish ppl are like that - I for one have never ripped anyone off, wouldn't even know how to do that :)

M-G
Seanus 15 | 19,706
9 Feb 2008  #208
Wow, deja-vu!!
southern 75 | 7,097
9 Feb 2008  #209
The Polish economy could benefit from that expertise.

No economy has benefited from them.Did you see the Wirtschaftswunder when the Jews disappeared?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
9 Feb 2008  #210
What drugs r u on southern? Ever heard of America?


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