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History of Poland in 10 minutes. Really worth seeing!


Seanus 15 | 19,706
31 Jul 2010 #61
What's with the Koolaid thing? I never got what that was all about.

I've watched that 'documentary' before and it's trash.
convex 20 | 3,978
31 Jul 2010 #62
What's with the Koolaid thing? I never got what that was all about.

It's a reference to Jonestown. Mass suicide by spiked koolaid.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
31 Jul 2010 #63
Ouch! Who was dumb enough to do that? Anyway, I think this thread can be merged with the many others that exist.
erykos - | 1
31 Jul 2010 #64
This is a very good clip.

impressive
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
31 Jul 2010 #66
I've watched that 'documentary' before and it's trash.

Au contraire, I think this is a very valuable contemporary document dealing with all the ins an outs of Polish history and should be cherished :)

Who was dumb enough to do that?

Jim Jones was.

youtube.com/watch?v=SwkqjjffzEk

Cool music at the start though !

>^..^<

M-G (coffee)
convex 20 | 3,978
31 Jul 2010 #67
Au contraire, I think this is a very valuable contemporary document dealing with all the ins an outs of Polish history and should be cherished :)

Not my quote. But you can quote me on this, it's nationalistic drivel.
andrei - | 25
31 Jul 2010 #68
Hello

Not my quote. But you can quote me on this, it's nationalistic drivel.

It's a history clip about one given country (Poland) not about the history of the whole humankind for god's sake, and it's still only limited to 10 minutes so it lacks of a lot of other important events in the history of poland (for example the fragmentation period). Every historiography in every country (no matter which and no matter where) can be opinionated in some facts to some degree (mainly in the way of interpreting things), but those are still proven facts.

i can do it better than that.

1 second

You are showing us how the spaniards fought against Napoleon? Because I didn't get your joke and could find it offensive.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
31 Jul 2010 #69
historiography

I think you mean "history" as "historiography" is the history of the writing of history and deals with certain views of certain historians on the way history should be written, not with history itself.

@convex:

It's a glitch on PF that sometimes when you quote a person, sb else pops up as being quoted. Don't know if they are going to fix it, but there you go :) And btw: I was joking with that remark.

>^..^<

M-G (cats want to come in - yeah, like I let two fighting cats in, the whole place will be ravaged)
andrei - | 25
31 Jul 2010 #70
I think you mean "history" as "historiography" is the history of the writing of history and deals with certain views of certain historians on the way history should be written.

Yes sorry my mistake... I meant rather "the way of documenting and presenting history", because history itself (as strictly seeing it as past events and their causes and consequences) in it's nature isn't opinionated.
Paulina 9 | 1,448
4 Aug 2010 #71
History of Poland in 8 minutes - the whole thing from China EXPO 2010:

adam.owczarz.wrzuta.pl/film/8vfUao6atFi/tysiac_lat_w_osiem_minu t_-_historia_polski_na_expo
Seanus 15 | 19,706
4 Aug 2010 #72
It does Poland a disservice to condense its history into snapshots and bullet points. Some people devote the best part of their lives towards unveiling the history of Poland. Discussions film forum boards in many places. Many Poles make it their raison d'etre to fully tease out WWII and its ramifications.
Bzibzioh
4 Aug 2010 #73
Many Poles make it their raison d'etre to fully tease out WWII and its ramifications.

Many? Not really. If you only take PF as a sample it's just 2-3 out of about 15-17. No scientific by any means but telling.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
4 Aug 2010 #74
Ok, very many ;)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
4 Aug 2010 #76
Oh, come on, there's nothing quite like harping back to the Warsaw Uprising to stir the loins of a Pole ;) Most Poles I know like to discuss WWII.
Ironside 49 | 10,474
4 Aug 2010 #77
Most Poles I know like to discuss WWII.

with you :)
not between themselves:)
Richfilth 6 | 415
4 Aug 2010 #78
Au contraire. It was a running discussion among the entire office this week (70+ Poles, 3 foreigners) what they would have done had they been alive on Aug 1st, 1944. And they've all heartily enjoyed expressing their intimate knowledge of Katyn, Dywizjonu 303 and the Polish-led Operation Market Garden.

This isn't a complaint about the obsession with WWII, but I certainly don't agree that Poles don't like discussing that war among themselves.

That EXPO 2012 video is wonderful too.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
4 Aug 2010 #79
Polish-led Operation Market Garden.

Correction, it wasn't Polish led, it was British led as the idea came from Montgomery. Sosabowski did take part in it, but only later. The major actions were undertaken by the British 1st Airborne Division and the American 84nd and 101st Airborne Division. The 1st Independent Polish Parachute Brigade came later on onto the battlefield, either on Tuesday 19th of September 1944 or Wednesday the 20th, can't remember.

Edit: that is not to say that we here in our area don't honour the Polish contribution and don't pay hommage to those brave Polish heroes who gave their life to liberate our area.

>^..^<

M-G (all to help the British XXX Corps)
pawian 173 | 12,655
6 Aug 2010 #80
Genial programmer Tomasz Bagiński made a film for Polish EXPO 2010 in China.

It lasts 8 minutes and is a great hit of the exhibition. Blockbuster which attracts crowds.

youtube.com/watch?v=h_QTKjDYtMI

I like it though certain scenes should have written description of events because they are totally unknown to most foreighners.
Watch and check how much history of Poland can you recognise.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
6 Aug 2010 #81
1,000 years of Poland in a few minutes

A film clip shown at this summer's expo in China touches on the highpoints of Polish history in a super-abbreviated manner. Any comments?
pgtx 30 | 3,158
6 Aug 2010 #82
we did talk about it a while ago... i remember...in some thread...
pawian 173 | 12,655
7 Aug 2010 #83
Most topics are repeated regularly. It is charming, isn`t it?
Marcinski - | 3
12 Aug 2010 #84
The way I see it, Poland shouldn't have a government who sells the country out to the EU. We should demand our Ukrainian land back, if Russia ever is suppose to work with us.

This link (History in 10 min) should make the most of us proud. Cause now we are selling all this to the west.

And the last thing, lets build nuclear bombs for defence.

Love to homeland is our law - Polish Winged Hussars
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,423
12 Aug 2010 #85
The way I see it, Poland shouldn't have a government who sells the country out to the EU. We should demand our Ukrainian land back, if Russia ever is suppose to work with us.

Such a policy would isolate Poland in Europe...what good would that do the polish people?

Would such a government really have the best of it's people in mind?
jonni 16 | 2,485
12 Aug 2010 #86
The way I see it, Poland shouldn't have a government who sells the country out to the EU.

Ahem, Poland wasn't forced into the EU - there was a referendum to join, and the time to object was than, instead of irritating people now.
Archyski - | 45
12 Aug 2010 #87
Such a policy would isolate Poland in Europe...what good would that do the polish people?

Would such a government really have the best of it's people in mind?

An exit from the union is not the same as an isolation. Is Switzerland isolated from the continent ? What Poland has to offer, is the possibility of company movements to Poland because of the cheap labour. Just see the perspective in China.

Ahem, Poland wasn't forced into the EU - there was a referendum to join, and the time to object was than, instead of irritating people now.

AHEM ! Where does Marcinski write that Poland was forced into the Union ? The result of a membership in the union, is a deterioration of the national sovereignty. A common factor in the union.

So I would say, reform the union or make an exit.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,423
12 Aug 2010 #88
An exit from the union is not the same as an isolation.

...no, but getting into quarrels with your neighbours because of territories would be!

The result of a membership in the union, is a deterioration of the national sovereignty. A common factor in the union.

Well...what's the point of being in a union if not adhering to commonly agreed laws and ways?
Both...being in and outside of a union has advantages and disadvantages...what advantages would being outside of the EU have for Poland?

Poland is no Switzerland!

So I would say, reform the union or make an exit.

What for reforms should it be?

PS: Reforming is best done from the inside ;)
jonni 16 | 2,485
12 Aug 2010 #89
AHEM ! Where does Marcinski write that Poland was forced into the Union ?

Read this.

The way I see it, Poland shouldn't have a government who sells the country out to the EU.

The time to say shouldn't was before the Polish people chose to join, with full knowledge of all implications.
convex 20 | 3,978
12 Aug 2010 #90
The result of a membership in the union, is a deterioration of the national sovereignty. A common factor in the union.

No one sees much of a difference between being governed by an inept national government, or an inept supernational government. Quite a few people are seeing the wealth transfer from West to East that is happening. I'm with you though, Poland should leave the EU and return all the money that the government and its people were granted.


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