The BEST Guide to POLAND
Unanswered  |  Archives 
 
 
User: Guest

Home / History  % width posts: 192

History of European and Poland's anti-semitism


Sasha 2 | 1,083
29 Oct 2008 #31
It's considered that most of Jews as a main force of coup d'état came from Poland.

4) Jews controlled a large part of the liquor making/distribution business, and kept Poles drunk

Exactly. On the way from Russia to Poland they opened "Shinkarni" (it's a thieves' jewish cant) where they sold narcotics and liquors.
dcb
29 Oct 2008 #32
Sashka I thought that those horrible Polish nobility keept Russians drunk not the Jews...
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259
29 Oct 2008 #33
Actually this is a question about hatred between Ukranians and Belorussians from one side and Jews from another. These "shinkarni" were originally on territories temporally captured by former RP. So, this situation has nothing common with russian.
dcb
29 Oct 2008 #34
Part of Polish nobility on east were polonisated Bielrussian and Ukrainian elites. By laubor class or peasants they were considered Polish and were expeled like native Polish nobility ... Thanks to that we were able to rebuild our intelectual resources after horrible WWII.

Yes it has nothing to do with Russians ... it was irony.
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259
29 Oct 2008 #35
Yes it has nothing to do with Russians ... it was irony.

Is it so?

Thanks to that we were able to rebuild our intelectual resources after horrible WWII.

Which resources you call "intelectual"? I think those spiteful and hissing Russophobic Polish "intelectuals"? It is rediculous
dcb
29 Oct 2008 #36
Yes I call them intelectuals, when Germans have been trying to exterminate our resources in central and western Poland intelectual influx from east had value. When I talk about east I mean central Bielruss and Ukraine. Lwów and Wilno had been in smashing majority ethnicly Polish. All this resources were very valuable after the war. I don't know why do you call them russophobic when they were packed into trains and send to central western Poland they had to left everything.

I'm from Poznań and may of my friend have roots in Lwow or Wilno.
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259
29 Oct 2008 #37
Yes I call them intelectuals

Ha-ha, open your eyes! They are not a bit intelectual, they want only one, to gain revenge, without any traces of realizm, without even slight appraisal of their own strengths.
dcb
29 Oct 2008 #38
In my opinion you see what you want to see. Poland tries to have good neighbourhood with you but it is very hard.
celinski 31 | 1,258
29 Oct 2008 #39
Nobody wants the Jews in their lands.(we have to whisper it).

This was not true in the past, when no one else would let the Jewish live in their country, Poland did. IMHO this was why Poland was invaded in 1939, but as for Poland, the problem they were working out at the time was Jewish wanting their own country within Poland and Poland said, no. If you get a chance watch "The Other Truth".
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259
29 Oct 2008 #40
In my opinion you see what you want to see. Poland tries to have good neighbourhood with you but it is very hard.

Really? Why it is hard to Poland and not so hard for Armenia for example? I try to answer for you. It is so only because your so called "intelectual elite" is interested is such situation.
dcb
29 Oct 2008 #41
;) The problem is that It would be much better for armenia to sell their gas straight to europe but they fear you after Georgia and you make batter money on their cost ... Poland being part of new eastern block is very bad idea for many different reasons not only this one I've mentioned.

:-)
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259
29 Oct 2008 #42
The problem is that It would be much better for armenia to sell their gas straight to europe but they fear

Mmmm, there you want to show us your notorious polish "intelectualizm"? Well, I want only to notice that Armenia dose not have own gas, it's quite obvious for me that you just have confused Armenia with Azerbaidzhan. Well, may be it is not so important to Polish intelectuals, but I suppose it is abselutely offensive for both AA nations!
dcb
29 Oct 2008 #43
Georgia doesn't have them but it is problem how nad where do they transport gas ... I agree I've have misatek Armania witg Azerbajdzan
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259
29 Oct 2008 #44
Don't fool yourself, there is no such problem! 'course through Russia! They have no choise!
dcb
29 Oct 2008 #45
Oh yes I see your point. Lets wait what will happen in future. Poland tries to have normal neighbourhood with you.
Sasha 2 | 1,083
29 Oct 2008 #46
Poland tries to have normal neighbourhood with you

They don't. It's illogical to strive after the better relationship with Russia dancing at american pipe and installing missile shield in Poland. In its turn Rus Gov prudently touches the chord of Polish gov's unfriendly moves in order to better show Russians that nowadays Poland are none of friend. The problem is mutual.
dcb
29 Oct 2008 #47
What about Nord Stream and Russian expansionist doctrine. Lets wait for some events maybe there will be progress but the ball is on your side. I don't trust your leaders.
Sasha 2 | 1,083
29 Oct 2008 #48
What about Nord Stream and Russian expansionist doctrine.

"Zub za zub"... how we and Czechs say... :) I told you the problem was mutual. I don't trust leaders of my country either (nor I trust yours). What I say is that in fact they are both not interested at all in any closer relationships. They at present take different scale pans.
dcb
29 Oct 2008 #49
"Zub za zub"... how we and Czechs say... :) [/quote]

In Polish we say "Ząb za Ząb" :)

I told you the problem was mutual. I don't trust leaders of my country either (nor I trust yours).

Politicians ...
polishgirltx
29 Oct 2008 #50
"Ząb za Ząb" :)

oko za oko, ząb za ząb i widelec w nery...
;)
Piorun - | 658
29 Oct 2008 #51
widelec w nery...

That’s a bit harsh.
Sasha 2 | 1,083
29 Oct 2008 #52
i widelec w nery...

this one I don't understand. The rest is clear... :)
JulietEcho 3 | 100
29 Oct 2008 #54
- Can you already STOP!! With the Jews...
WHO CARES?!
Hueg - | 320
29 Oct 2008 #55
- Can you already STOP!! With the Jews...
WHO CARES?!


Anyone who cares to leaf lazily through your profile, paying particular notice to the latest threads and replies section may come to the conclusion that you do. But we all know better. :)
Marek 4 | 867
29 Oct 2008 #56
zzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZ!! Oh, was I dozing off?? Sorry-:) Wake me up when you're finished.
dcb
29 Oct 2008 #57
Marek our tax collector :D
Marek 4 | 867
29 Oct 2008 #58
- -:)!!!! Marku, nasz urzędnik skarbowy :M
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389
29 Oct 2008 #59
Jewish wanting their own country within Poland and Poland said, no. If you get a chance watch "The Other Truth".

Very good points.
Filios1 8 | 1,343
29 Oct 2008 #60
IMHO this was why Poland was invaded in 1939

I'm afraid that it was a bit more complicated than this... Hitler wanted the land for his own use, to ease the population density at home, and also for raw materials- lebensraum

The Jewish "problem" was something he took care of on the way.

ConstantineK

Why can't you behave more like your compatriot, Sasha? He is a far more reasonable Russian than you.


Home / History / History of European and Poland's anti-semitism
BoldItalic [quote]
 
To post as Guest, enter a temporary username or login and post as a member.