Why do Polish people hate to be called Eastern European?

Just to clarify, Bi-Polar world was domination of USA and western Europe, or as it is also in our time, domination by USA and China. But we also had phases of Uni-Polar world with sole domination of USA.

Effectively, today, world is in transition from Bi-Polar to Multi-Polar, where Multi-Polar designate world with shared domination of major human civilizations.

Speaking of Slavic world in all these changes, I once already said how we finally (after at least 1500 years) entered in period where strong Poland suits best Russia`s interest. It is western Europe that losing if Poland and other countries on Baltic-Balkan line form Central European Union.

Crow that too much BS even for you.

Stop trying to ship Poland and Russia... it's not gonna happen. The most that can be hoped for is - as little contact as possible and impersonal politeness when contact can't be avoided. Expecting anything more than that is just crazy.

Yes, Poland and Russia play in different teams. As much as I love Russians, I fully realise that the Kremlin will never give up its traditional dreams of having subjugated Poland on their Western border. That has been their way of thinking for the last 300 years and will remain so for the next 300.

Of course, most Poles reject such thinking, as I do, too.
Therefore, the only chance for Poland and Russia to be official partners is when radical right and nationalists take power in Poland.

@pawian, you wrote so much nonsense that I don't even know where to start...


So you love Russians. How many Russians do you know in person?

I met quite a few of them in Poland and even more of them in London (they moved to the UK disguised as Latvians, Lithuanians...) and I wouldn't say that I love them but I know how to deal with them in person.

Which brings me to the next point: the only way of effectively dealing with Russians is from the position of power. Any other approach is seen as a sign of weakness by a regular Russian. So yes, a mutual respect is possible only when both sides take hard line. That's how they are wired and that's how they've been conditioned for centuries.

When it comes to politics, obviously that kind of relations with Russia is something that only a strong conservative government is capable of. Even the US, the superpower, got slapped by Russia when they had a weak, incompetent, liberal president Obama.

And now, connecting Polish nationalist with some kind of pro-russian stance is an aberration shared by both tribes: PiS and PO followers. Polish nationalist have pro-Polish stance and in Polish interest is to cooperate with those who will bring - economical, political or any other - profits to Poland. Something which Viktor Orban does succesfully for Hungary.

It is always best to start from the beginning.... :):)


Yes. I also love Germans, Jews, Ukrainians, Czechs, Lithuanians, blacks, Asians, gays and so on. I only dislike rightards. Any problem? :):)

Like that Duda speak thru your mouth.

You know very well that western Europe represent bigger problem to Poland then Russia. You think western Europeans love Poles more then Serbs? Only because Poles are mostly Catholic, western Europeans would kill them once, while Serbs would be killed trice. I mean we refuse to die, but that`s what they think of us. So that is the slight difference, I agree. Difference yes but, that's not love.

In other words, you consider Russians weaker then western Europeans and that is why you spit on Russians. Yes, I am absolutely sure that you don`t love Russians, true. But for western Europeans you feel only hate. It is them who force you not to be Polish, not to be Slavic. You don`t see Russians as obstacle to that. You know and you anyway speak against Russians.

It all speaks of your weak character.

you know , Jesus told us to love our enemies and so on

Ah yes, we know all about the profits that Russians bring to Poland.

The same nationalists have huge problems with the USA and the West in general, despite them bringing significant profits and wealth to Poland.


Very successfully.

emerging-europe.com/business/hungary-offers-russian-bank-diplomatic-status-complete-with-immunity/

I mean, this is a deal of a lifetime!

It is. Hungary will expand as state. Will be territorialy bigger.

Polish citizens should be no less than any other land where people are called by the name of their land. People from China are called 'Chinese', people from Israel are called 'Israelis', so why should polish citizens be called 'Eastern European'?!

You can`t compare terms `Polish` and `Chinese`. One who is Polish, in its meta-ethnicity is Slavic (ie Sarmatian).

Be advised that China and Chinese represent meta-ethnicity. Exactly comparable to term as we would say Slavs or Eastern Europeans. For example, you have Han people that are majority of Chinese. Then you have Duani, Tungizu, Panthay, Tibetans, Mongols, etc, etc, etc. They are all Chinese same way as Poles, Russians, Serbs, etc peoples Slavs. Term `Eastern Europeans` can be considered to be same as `Slavic` and `Slavic influenced`. That is today`s situation and I won`t go now in deeper past or observe future trends.

Of course they hate it because it puts them on par with the russians.....anyway, try to tell a Czech that he is Eastern European and he will hit you in the head with a beer mug.

Just as Iceland isn't a scandinavian country, but Nordic. Iceland is a nordic country not British, despite being a Island in north western europe.

Chinese are east asians, not middle eastern and western slavs are central europeans, not eastern europeans nor eastern slavs.

Before 1939 one could argue Poland (not Poles) is a central&eastern european country due to mix of Poles, Unrainians and Belarussians.

Nowadays Poland is very much further west geographically but, also more connected to western projects, alliances and union. Eastern european states are not, only few eastern europeans that have anything to do with west or nordic countries are the baltic states, due to their similar sensitivity they prefer to be understood as Baltic, nordic, european more then Eastern european due to their drift towards nordic countries and Germany. Throughout history in general

Often in English, "Scandinavia" and "Nordic" are lumped together, although
for example, Finland, while technically Scandinavian is NOT Nordic owing to its
language:-)

I would rather be called Russian or Mongol than Western.

Do you fully understand the meaning of "Western" or are you simply trolling again?

No problem. From today?

Yes, I do know what Western stands for.

Lies and deception, pretend democracy, pregnant men, women with dicks, suicidal kids, obesity, looting, disappearing white race, open borders, never-ending wars,...

Want more?


You can call me anything except Euro or Western. Even POS or SOB is better...

@Lyzko
It sounds very ridiculous

Every Norwegian, Dane or Swede (scandinavian)

Will not consider Finns Skandinavians, but nordic...

Technically in English....

Scandinavia= the mainland northern Germanic speaking countries, Denmark, Sweden and Norway.

Finland differs the above three not only in terms of language but also in culture, for example see it's fetishization of alcohol which has no counterpart in any other country AFAIK.

Norden = Scandinavia plus Finland, Iceland and the overseas territories of Denmark like the Faroes and Greenland and autonomous Finnish island of Aalund.

@Hr.Grunwald, every Finn with whom I've had contact does NOT consider themselves a "Nordic",
even a "Scandinavian" (Scandi), but instead a (proud) Finn, albeit an unwilling Swedish speaker
as their unofficial second aka colonial language after the Vasa period, even if most seem to show
a greater facility with Swedish than English:-)

@Lyzko
What's next your gonna tell me? That Jews aren't semites but arabic? Your writing nonsense

Decent intelligent patriotic Poles and Polesses do. While rightist parties` voters don`t care how they are called. As long as they get their monthly benefits and some booze every day, they agree to being called whatever you wish.

The question was, "Why do Polish people hate to be called Eastern European"

The answer is, because they are not.


Typical communist propaganda!

Poles are central Europeans, end of.

But to say that right wing voters don't agree with that is, frankly, moronic.

After deeper contemplation, I find term Eastern European inadequate for use for all the Slavs and Poles in particular. I mean, what it means Eastern European. Its just geographical designation that serve to avoid mentioning of Slavs when most of Europe is Slavic and was Slavic 500 and 1000 and 2000 years ago, even entirely Slavic some 5000 years ago and deeper in the past to the Ice age. Europe is nothing but Slavialand. And no, don`t get me wrong. I don`t deny different ``ethnicities`` in Europe. I do. Just Slavs are people and today`s non Slavs, former Slavs, are nations. Its the great difference that must be respected because it has its political implications. Because Slavs stay in direct continuity with those first people in Europe, language and culture that formed what we know as Western world. Plus, Slavs were and are people positioned on inter-continental level.

And yes, Slavs ie Sarmatians. Let us remember that.

Oh, quite the contrary, Hr Grunwald! You might have misunderstood my
post. Both Jews AND Arabs are Semites, ergo, to be "anti-SEMITIC" in
theory means to hate Arabs as well as Jews.

Kindly await private message:-)

Quite right.

Many thinks Iranians to be Semitic but that is a mistake. They are children of contact between European Whites (of Lepenski Vir culture) and Blacks of India. But Whites prevailed as it is described in Rg Veda manuscripts... ``that Black God of Indra moved against Srbinda.`` So, Ind River is kind of ancient border region of European (ie Slavic, ie Sarmatian) and Indian interests.

No one thinks that....

@mafketis

Don`t sound as old woman.