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Polish military uniforms - collar markings


G (undercover)
17 Apr 2018 #31
looks like narrow cording on a black collar?

He's a private, most likely a drafted soldier. The cording - that's what everyone had back then. There were 2 (infantry & cavalry) military regiments in Włocławek before WW2.
moshedelstein - | 3
17 Dec 2020 #33
Hi all, looking for some help in identifying the position and rank of my grandfather who appears to have served in the polish army sometime after ww1. Thanks!



pawian 181 | 16,861
18 Dec 2020 #34
He looks like an uhlan from 1930s. Check this site:
dobroni.pl/post/umundurowanie-kawalerii-ii-rzeczypospolitej-1918-1-f577388
Ironside 51 | 11,499
18 Dec 2020 #35
and rank of my grandfather

Hard to see anything on that picture. Not much about his position. His rank is somewhat tricky to guess.
I would say - second lieutenant.
Ironside 51 | 11,499
19 Dec 2020 #36
second lieutenant.

or a private.
moshedelstein - | 3
19 Dec 2020 #37
Thank you pawian and Ironside! You definitely helped.

I would say - second lieutenant

I wonder what makes you guess that.

Hopefully the following question doesn't deviate from the topic of the forum: Would you know if there's a central archive in Poland where you can find a list of recruits from that period?
Ironside 51 | 11,499
19 Dec 2020 #38
I wonder what makes you guess that.

Makings on a collar were different for officers, That would mean he was an officer. On the other hand there is no/or is not visible/ indication of his rank on his hat. (there should be two, on a shoulder board/each arm/ and one on a hat) I just don't remember if that ( insignia on a hat)was the requirement for the time period.

You see that photograph is not of the highest quality.
So, IF I'm right about the collar, IF we disregard his hat. Plus there is something barley visible on his shoulder board, It could be a single star (an indication of a rank) or it could be a number of his regiment. So many IFs.

On the other hand if we disregard his collar markings (maybe I don't remember correctly which is which)- he was a private..
Hence I said it was a guess.
moshedelstein - | 3
20 Dec 2020 #39
@Ironside
Thank you. I do appreciate your response.
Sztarka - | 1
7 May 2021 #40
I have seen in a number of photos something that looks like a crown or swords on the left sleeve of soldiers. Can anyone explain this please? Also in the photo attached their are 3 buttons/insignia on the right chest, can anyone help with these please. This family member was in 72 pulk piechoty from Radom, part of Division 28. The photo was taken between 1935 when he received his Abselkanty and 1939. Thankyou



Ironside 51 | 11,499
7 May 2021 #41
3 buttons/insignia on the right chest,

Those are insignia I'm not a military geek so won't tell you what they are exactly but those either are regimental insignia or/and some military badges.

That photo was taken between 1935 and 1936.
pawian 181 | 16,861
7 May 2021 #42
that looks like a crown or swords on the left sleeve of soldiers.

I had to check my own library to find it - it is a badge of a very good heavy machine gun operator. The badge without a stripe underneath meant good operators.

And they are not swords but bullets.



Mike_YVR - | 2
15 Nov 2021 #43
Is there anything in this soldier's uniform that can tell us his rank, service, time frame? From my research he's either an NCO or maybe a private. This uniform could be from drafted soldiers. Any help would be appreciated.



pawian 181 | 16,861
16 Nov 2021 #44
his rank, service, time frame?

Only time frame is hinted: this type of uniform was introduced in 1936. You can try to look for info about the uniform reform of 1936. The chest pockets are plain, without a stripe in the middle, like in previous versions.
Mike_YVR - | 2
17 Nov 2021 #45
Thank you very much. I was thinking the boy's suit looked more like a 1930's style than 1918...but wasn't sure. Thanks again!
pawian 181 | 16,861
17 Nov 2021 #47
corporal.

Why not a sergeant??? :)


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