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rfrack8610 2 | 3
20 Sep 2015  #1
I have several documents stating my late father military assignment during 1937-39 when he was captured was Gunman 2 Air Division A.P.L. and 2e Regt. artillerie. He stated he fired 75mm cannons. What is the A.P.L.? and can the assignment be determined if in the air force or army? Is there anywhere to get his military records in Poland?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,170
20 Sep 2015  #2
2 Air Division A.P.L.

Perhaps 2 Dywizjon Artylerii Przeciwlotniczej (2nd Anti-aircraft Artillery Battalion, an army unit) from Grodno.

What is the A.P.L.?

Likely Artyleria PrzeciwLotnicza -> Anti-aircraft Artillery
OP rfrack8610 2 | 3
20 Sep 2015  #3
I learned more today on this site than months on Google. Thanks Grzegorz_

Merged: WWII artillery units

Hello
Can someone tell me the relationship between the 3 WWII artillery groups below ? I think they are similar

2 Dywizjon Artylerii Przeciwlotniczej
29 Pułk Artylerii Lekkiej
Artyleria Przeciw Lotnicza

And what would the initials "wyd." stand for when used as "Grodno (II wyd.) when speaking of mobilization materials

Thanks
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,170
2 May 2016  #4
2 Dywizjon Artylerii Przeciwlotniczej

2nd Anti-aircraft Artillery Battalion.

29 Pułk Artylerii Lekkiej

29th Regiment of Light Artillery. A filed artillery unit of the 29th Infantry Division. Both from Grodno but 2nd Battalion was not a part of 29th Division, at least not in the peace time.
Henry22850
5 Jul 2016  #5
Can anybody help
I'm looking for info on 10pac a reserve Heavy Artillery Battalion attached to 10 Infantry Division. My Grandfather (Captain) Emil Klausner served in 10pac and somehow returned to his hometown in Przemysl and was arrested by the NKVD on 10/12/1939 and sent to Starobielsk (he appears on the list of those executed in Mord y Katynu. Any info on the activity of 10pac and 10 Infantry Division would be appreciated.
Julianfedak
3 Nov 2016  #6
Hi
I am trying to trace details of my grandfather's army record. He was a Ukrainian but served in the 29th Polish Field Artillery Division he was a reservist and held the rank of second leftenant. My father told me that when the Germany invaded he was called away and that he was captured by the Germans. My father thinks he was sent to a camp somewhere near Denmark? Is there anywhere in Poland that I could find this information.

His name was Theodore Fedak.
Pjkh3
12 Nov 2016  #7
Merged: My father from Poland was in WWII

Thank you for this forum. Oral histories of this time period are critical to record. My dad told me many stories about Hitler invading Poland on his birthday, September 1, 1939. He had to walk back to Warsaw that day from his celebrations in the countryside. The Germans bombed all the train tracks in and out of the city. He fought as a youth volunteer for a week or so then escaped with his father by car to Roumania where they were put in a refugee camp. They escaped the camp after hearing of Roumania siding with the Nazis, traveled by night and headed to France for a short period in 1940 and then escaped France on the last boat to England. Both my father and grandfather joined the Polish Army in England. My grandfather was in the Polish Government in Exile. My father was an officer in the Polish Army under British Command. He was in the first unit under Maciej (Macek). He told me stories of target practice in the sand traps at St. Andrews Golf Course in Edinburgh, Scotland. Also building bunkers. I think I remember that his unit went to Normandy. There is a local Polish Club in Sacramento, CA. There are many members in their 90s including one gentlemen, Frank Jasinski who was in the second unit under Anders in North Africa. He is or was active in keeping Polish Military records in the US. I think I remember Frank telling me that there were many casualties in France with Maciej's unit. He would be a good contact if he is still active.
SvanRijsewijk
22 Jan 2018  #8
My brother and I are looking for our Polish Grandfather!

My father's real father is a polish soldier who fought in and around Eindhoven, where he met my grandmother and they have a son together (my father). The name of the polish soldier is Alexander Packenträger. We only have a name, my grandmother never wanted to talk about it until only recently. Do you have lists of names of the batallions that fought in and around Eindhoven? (the Netherlands). I really hope you can help us!
Atch 17 | 2,741
22 Jan 2018  #9
Having done a quick bit of Googling for the Poles in Eindhoven, I came up with the Polish Parachute Brigade, Third Battalion. They were only in the area for a couple of weeks during which time they lost 400 men. Here's a link to more details:

derekcrowe.com/post.aspx?id=153

The records for the Polish servicemen fighting with the British have been held by the British Ministry of Defence since the war but are now in the process of being transferred to Poland. However your grandfather's records, if they have any for him, may still be accessible.
kaprys 1 | 1,689
22 Jan 2018  #10
pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksander_Pakentreger

The surname you mention may suggest either German or Jewish origin. There's an article on Wiki about an Aleksander Packentrager but it doesn't mention Eindhoven. It does mention places in Germany, though.
Atch 17 | 2,741
22 Jan 2018  #11
I would say it's quite likely a Jewish name. Doesn't sound particularly Polish and I see from the Wiki article that the Alexander Pakentreger mentioned in it was born in Kalisz where there was a Jewish community. There's a book about the Jews of Kalisz though it's written as Kalish in the title.
kaprys 1 | 1,689
22 Jan 2018  #12
The man from the article was Jewish. Pakentreger doesn't seem to be a very popular surname in Poland.
There's also a site with two of his photos. It contains information from the IPN ...
G (undercover)
22 Jan 2018  #13
Quite likely a Jew although one can't be sure by the last name alone. The wiki guy was fighting on the eastern front so I doubt he was anywhere close to Eindhoven before the end of WW2.
Wysocki922
12 Jun 2018  #14
My father was S.P.R. Art 4 bat. It was listed as previous service on the card while in Anders Army in Russia. I am not sure if they are referring to his previous experience in Poland during the September campaign or his service in Anders Army while in Russia. Any ideas what S.P.R Art is located?
LironJ
13 Sep 2018  #15
@SvanRijsewijk

Did you find anything about your lost grandfather? Alexander Pakentreger was my mom's uncle so I might be able to help.
G (undercover)
13 Sep 2018  #16
what S.P.R Art is

Artillery Reserve Cadet School.
Ursula
2 Jan 2019  #17
Aleksander Pakentreger was my father. How I can contact you?
bolek_tusk 3 | 278
3 Jan 2019  #18
Who do I contact to try and get details of my fathers army record?

He was taken as a POW by the Red Army in September 1939 and was sent to Siberia where he later joined Anders' Army.
Chemikiem 5 | 1,604
3 Jan 2019  #19
Much of Ander's Army ( Polish II Corps ) was under command of the Eighth Army, and it is the British MOD which hold records.

For MOD Polish records, please contact:

Margaret Goddard or Barbara Kroll
APC Polish Enquiries
Building 60
RAF Northolt,
West End Road
Ruislip,
Middlesex HA4 6NG

Phone: 0044 (0) 208 833 8603
Email: margaret.goddard135@mod.uk

I am guessing that you will also need to provide proof of relationship, and possibly a copy of his death certificate in order to get his military records.

Have a look also at this link: polandinexile.com/addresses.html

All the relevant addresses both in the UK and Poland are contained here. Hopefully they will be of some help. Good luck in your search!
bolek_tusk 3 | 278
3 Jan 2019  #20
Much of Ander's Army ( Polish II Corps ) was under command of the Eighth Army, and it is the British MOD which hold records.

Thanks for the info, however I'm more interested in his position in the Polish Army in 1939.

Should I contact IPN - ipn.gov.pl/en?
Chemikiem 5 | 1,604
4 Jan 2019  #21
I doubt this site would hold Polish military records to be honest. I think your best bet would be to e-mail the MOD with his name. They hold records from 1939 - 1946 on Polish military personnel and will be able to tell you if they have him on file. If they do, there is a good chance that units and rank etc will be held on file. My position is slightly different to yours, but I obtained my ancestor's military records from the MOD, and all the information was in them, rank, different army units, the lot. Give them as much information as possible. If he is listed and you want to go ahead, there is a charge and you have to prove relationship to him. I had to provide a copy of a death certificate.

Do you have any more information on him at all?

The Polish II Corps was made up from many different units, scroll down for a full list: polandinexile.com/icrb.html

Also, have a look at this site, you never know, you might find his name listed: polishexilesofww2.org/archival-lists-polish-2nd-corps


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