What makes you feel Polish?

I feel Polish when I EAT tatar steak. Better to say: DEVOUR.


Oops, I quit with Polishness when it comes to vodka. yes, I can drink it but only at weddings or other occassions. Last year we went to a wedding in August, I already told you about it. Leaving in the morning, each family got some extra alcohol as a gift. I still have those two bottles of home-made vodka, unopened.

@pawian

This will make me even less Polish in your estimation Pawian, I hate tartar and am not keen on wodka either, or any spirits for that matter.

I quite like Jack Daniels, but a small bottle bought for me for Christmas, remains in the cupboard, almost full.

Who cares about his opinion? It doesnt matter who he thinks is more Polish or not. His childish posts are an embarrassment to decent Poles around the world.

It is obvious you care if you take voice. :):)

How Polish do you feel when you drink bimber?

We don`t drink bimber. Two bottles of home made wedding leftover vodka still stand in our cabinet.

...don't forget the ground up cracked pepper corns plus a hard boiled egg! Cures all ills. Do you at least enjoy Zubrówka?

What makes you feel Polish?

My reaction to "kurwa mac".

what do people here have against Jews ...

You need to be more specific: which Jews? Polish, Israeli or American?

Actually we don't like only russian Z Jews. And you?

Polish antisemitism's about as old as the Church in Europe itself.
It all stems naturally from the misreading of Scripture and the alleged crucifying of the Christ by the Jews, rather than the Romans!
The latter did the deed but the former took the blame and not until the first Polish Pope did the Vatican "exonerate" the Jews.

As the Church strictly forbade the Christians from any type of money lending, that thankless task fell to the Jews who were stuck with the role of tax collectors and later pawnbrokers. This created the Frankenstein's Monster into which the Jews were forced through no apparent fault of their own, if only for their sheer survival.

Thank God it isn't Polish antisemitism, what makes me feel Polish. It is much more semitic antipolonism especially in last few years what makes us (polish expats) feel Polish.

What that? It some kind of trope, some people use in the USA?
I haven't seen German antisemitism, American antisemitism, French antisemitism or Russian antisemitism used with such a constant fury? One would think it is well orchestrated propgada campain with such slogan on forefront.

As old as the Church? Really? That's why persecuted Jews from all over Europe were running away to Poland? That's why Poland before WW2 had the largest Jewish population in Europe? Interesting...

Those Jews must be some sort of masochists - running away in droves from enlightened, tolerant countries to backward, anti-semitic Poland.

Surely you aren't denying that there was considerable antisemitism in Poland?

There was but no worse than in many other countries.
It's annoying that Poland is picked out so often.
Look at France,the UK,Russia and especially Germany of course.
Poland had less antisemitism than some of those countries.

I suspect that due to its location in the centre of Europe and it's size, Poland naturally had a larger Jewish population and there was therefore more to say.

There were many horrible things that happened in, for example, Austria, however the numbers were smaller and outward migration probably less.

I suspect that it all has little to do with facts and more with politics and prejudise.
After all there almost no Jews in Poland and Poles are not going around attacking Jews everywhere.
That happens in Germany and other places including England or USA. No much is getting on the news is it - no slogans about today reality.

There was that appalling display in Kalisz last year where a group were marching through the streets carrying placards saying "Death To Jews".

I've never heard of that happening elsewhere in modern Europe.

Fortunately the town's Mayor publicly apologised and there was a march of reconciliation condemning the racists a few days afterwards with thousands more attending than the few hundred scum on the original march.

I gather the matter is still with the prosecutor. Hopefully the organisers of the racist march will be failed for a very long time

What they did was to burn Statut Kaliski - en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Statute_of_Kalisz&oldid=1082857612 - privileges for Jews in Poland.

It is easier to talk rubish than addmit you people are prejudiced dicks against Poles. I get it. You should know living in Poland who was it. Same fake entity on youtube. He mostly like got paid for it.

Ok, it is not my job, you people should know better, so only a one example each.
USA:
The Pittsburgh synagogue shooting on October 27, 2018.46-year-old Robert Gregory Bowers killed eleven people and wounded six.
the UK:
From 8 May to 7 June2021, 460 incidents were reported to the charity - the highest monthly total since records began in 1984 - with 316 happening offline and 144 online.

( I chose this one becasue direct attack seems to be forte of British Muslims like hiting Jews with a bottle or punching them to the ground).

Germany:
The Halle synagogue shooting 2019 27-year-old Stephan Balliet,a German neo-Nazi from Saxony-Anhalt.After unsuccessfully trying to enter the synagogue fatally shot two people nearby and later injured two others.

France:
The AJC Paris survey found that 70 percent of French Jews say they have been victims of at least one anti-Semitic incident in their lifetime, 64% have suffered anti-Semitic verbal abuse at least once, and 23% have been targets of physical violence on at least one occasion, with 10 percent saying they were attacked several times. ( as with the UK I don't want to point out one incident due to the fact that born and rised in France, French citizen are often of Algerian origin, I'm sure they are French of French origin that are involved but I'm not going to search for it. I say that stabbings, killings, murders with tortures in France are really big, if `1/4 of that would happened in Poland, you and people like you and all those racist people in your countries would have a field day with top news agencies talking about it all the time).

What makes a Pole feel Polish should be reading "Pan Tadeusz" or select verses of Jaroslaw Iwaszkiewicz aloud.

At least one of those is relatively modern. What contemporary writers could be mentioned instead.


And not only, unfortunately. That however in its own was appalling.


A lot of anti-Semitic rabble rousers are basically Geoffrey's in it for money or attention. The dangers is when they get supporters like those on the march.

@Cojestdocholery
I notice you mention other countries. They aren't relevant; it's basically whataboutism. Not great either when someone feels the need to explain away something awful by saying that bad things happen in other places too.

Can Poland not stand alone or does it always need to be compared to other places?

I'd say Myśliwski and Rylski.

I think that comparison to other countries is important.

It can be.

I see it a lot in Poland though and even more in places with huge problems.

There's the 'Anglo Saxon' thing about just not caring and there's, for example, North Africa where the countries all in a row are either slagging each other off or bemoaning that next door is better.

Poland falls between the two.

There's a tendency though that if someone points out an issue or problem here, within minutes someone will mention France Germany or the UK.

But I think with good.reason.
Poland, historically, has not been worse than other nations.

Coming and going as a country is a big part of it.

Sorry Jon, but I just don't get that.

And of course the recent nobel laureate..