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Polish-German alliance.


pawian 181 | 17,079
21 Aug 2019 #481
Hitlers biggest mistake he told me "not allying with Poland". So would such an alliance be a bad or a good thing, opinions?

Very bad. Germany would be defeated this way or another - the USA developed an atomic bomb and was ready to use it. If Germans were too stubborn and refused unconditional surrender, Hamburg would have become a European Hiroshima. And then next German cities.

Secondly, Polish German alliance would directly involve Poles in Nazi crimes: the Holocaust and those committed in the lands occupied by Nazis.

After the war, Poles as accomplices would lose their Eastern territory but wouldn`t be granted Western ex German lands. Poland would look like in 11th century.



Vlad1234 16 | 756
21 Aug 2019 #482
Hamburg would have become a European Hiroshima

I agree that most likely Germans would be caught unwarned and loose. But theoretically there exists a small possibility that if German intelligence (Abver) would warn them beforehand they had a small chance to invent something. For example they could thoroughly mix ethnic German population with population of occupied countries. If they would occupy entire USSR such move would be especially needed. To have many guards and administrators in occupied lands. In this case Americans would need to kill many more non-Germans then Germans while dropping bombs and attempts to target "German Center" would also get in trouble.
Miloslaw 12 | 3,328
21 Aug 2019 #483
Poles as accomplices would lose their Eastern territory but wouldn`t be granted Western ex German lands. Poland would look like in 11th century

Complete agreement.
In any case, Poles would never have been even capable of thinking of siding with Germans, even despite some fascistic Polish thinking at the time.
Lyzko 32 | 7,927
21 Aug 2019 #484
Right on, Milo.
Vlad1234 16 | 756
22 Aug 2019 #485
Poles as accomplices would lose their Eastern territory

And who would gain this territory? Do you think US would create independent Ukraine and Belarus on this territory?
Crow 152 | 9,747
22 Aug 2019 #486
Poles as accomplices would lose their Eastern territory but wouldn`t be granted Western ex German lands. Poland would look like in 11th century.

Yes, think how would Poland look like with all its stolen Western territories returned. Would be almost double bigger then it is now.

Its because Popes and Vatican who s****d Poland on this and played on Germanics.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,535
22 Aug 2019 #487
Poland would look like in 11th century.

An interesting map. The map seems to show the situation after the invasion of Bretislav of Bohemia in 1039 who captured Silesia as a result of the invasion. At that time Silesia was yet far from becoming German. Can you indicate the exact year for the map?
Crow 152 | 9,747
22 Aug 2019 #488
Polish-German alliance

Nonsensical concept that suggests eternal subjugation of Poland to ``older`` partner- Germany.

Anyway, ask yourself why did great Pilsudski wanted Intermarium to guaranty safety to Poland, from both, from East and West. And then ask yourself why somebody wants to promote Intermarium as anti-Russian creation. Who needs that? Ask yourself! Don`t be deaf, ignorant, hypocrite. Double standards, that`s what we see. And you know why? Because Pope wants to stimulate missionary work on East. That is why they pushing Poland on East. No, not pushing. Rather using Poland as condom. Then canes the Russia`s respond and Poland finds itself in the middle.

Face facts my sisters and brothers. We Slavs do have our differences but we do share people who wish to control, use and rule us. Not to use words such are- that they wish to ruin and destroy us. Sure, nothing personal. They only think Slavs are infidels, while Germanics and western Europeans have that God given right and talent to prosper.

Only respond is Central European Union. Only.
pawian 181 | 17,079
3 Jun 2021 #489
Can you indicate the exact year for the map?

It was 1047, you are very close. See it in the video below at 1:18

youtu.be/JhwGW8JzH8g


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