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BEATS OF FREEDOM - A HISTORY OF POLISH ROCK MUSIC


mafketis 37 | 10,905
10 Aug 2020 #61
just educate yourself

I do, I just educate myself about things I'm not especially interested in and anything with the word 'rock' in it (unless a catchword like 'punk' or 'glitter' or 'gothic' or 'roots' is there too....)

Behold the magnificence of Poison 13 who mixed punk with blues slide guitars...

(Poison 13 - My biggest mistake)

youtube.com/watch?v=fVIWfWY9Ttk
gumishu 13 | 6,138
10 Aug 2020 #62
(Poison 13 - My biggest mistake)

not for me maf - maybe you are right about grandiosity in metal after all

btw have you heard this Polish band: youtu.be/fJbMU3B-nw8
mafketis 37 | 10,905
10 Aug 2020 #63
have you heard this Polish band

Maybe, pretty good and I would have loved to see them live back in the day (I always enjoyed live punk shows more than records - many great times were had at those)
Zlatko
10 Aug 2020 #64
Are there any Polish bands/singers or songs in the lines of Europe's The Final Countdown, a-ha, Rainbow circa Can't Let You Go, Dire Straits?

Also what's the Polish equivalent of Nena, Heaven 17, Madness?
gumishu 13 | 6,138
10 Aug 2020 #65
I always enjoyed live punk shows more than records

I almost universally prefer studio music to concerts
mafketis 37 | 10,905
10 Aug 2020 #66
I'm kind of the way except for punk, the crowd is what makes it magic....
gumishu 13 | 6,138
10 Aug 2020 #67
@mafketis

do you like Toy Dolls, maf?
Miloslaw 19 | 4,971
10 Aug 2020 #68
I promoted gigs in London in the early eighties and Punk Rock was nothing but trouble.
Them and Reggae gigs.
It is part of the reason that Hard Rock came back, because the punters did not cause trouble and drank beer.
Unlike the Punks and Rastas who caused trouble and took drugs....
Pubs banned the Punks and Rastas and started booking proper Rock bands.
jon357 74 | 22,042
10 Aug 2020 #69
Them and Reggae gigs.

A friend has reggae gigs now in their venue up north. They were worried at first however most of the people who go are 60+.

Rastas who caused trouble and took drugs....

If it's ganja, they're too chilled to cause hassle.
mafketis 37 | 10,905
11 Aug 2020 #70
in London in the early eighties and Punk Rock was nothing but troubl

AFAICT European and American punks were very different, in the college town I lived in they were careful not to do much damage (shows were organized by a member of of a local band that everyone knew and they didn't want her to lose her deposits). A few shows were held in houses (when the few local venues were unavailable). There wasn't much in the way of drugs since "straight edge" was a thing then.

This wasn't any kind of commercial enterprise - there was a sort of small punk band... circuit in the 1980s (into the early 1990s at which point I lost track) followed by a bunch of never-to-be-famous-groups who were touring more for fun than for fame and fortune.

The band members would pile in a van and drive from city to city, crashing in the living rooms of locals who organized the shows (there was an informal network so they knew what bands were coming and when). The locals would also make up fliers and post them so people knew when and where the next show was.The bands also sold their privately printed lps and t-shirts to help get gas money to the next town.
jon357 74 | 22,042
11 Aug 2020 #71
Ours just used to spraypaint 'sham 69' on walls and spit at each other. Yours sound interesting.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,920
12 Aug 2020 #72
spit at each other.

Disgusting little left wing miscreants , they are all guardian readers now.
pawian 224 | 24,455
3 Oct 2021 #73
I remember this pastiche song from 1982. It was really crazy. Now I am reading the communist authorities soon took it off air and TV coz they thought it mocked their martial law.

Sadistic Dentist, by Rose Mohawks


meee
14 Oct 2021 #74
Polish rock was always ******
jon357 74 | 22,042
14 Oct 2021 #75
It's not for everyone and hasn't produced any worldwide hits. They have Chopin for international excellence in music instead...

Disgusting little left wing miscreants , they are all guardian readers now.

Usually no. The 80s delinquents are mostly bald brexit gammons now.
Alien 20 | 5,019
14 Oct 2021 #76
The best Polish rockband ever was Dżem with Ryszard Riedel as a frontman. Who know him?
Miloslaw 19 | 4,971
14 Oct 2021 #77
Who know him?

I do.
But, although he was good, he was not the best.
I prefer Wilki and Coma.
pawian 224 | 24,455
14 Oct 2021 #78
Who know him?

Rather who knew him coz he is long dead due to his addiction to heroin. He was a music genius.

I prefer Wilki

Good but not the best ones.
pawian 224 | 24,455
6 Feb 2022 #79
KSU - that was a cult punk rock group from Bieszczady Mountains.

They still do gigs today. That makes them the oldest rock group in Poland coz they launched in 1977. Amazing.

One of their hits from communist times:

Dead trees Amazing music and pessimistic but wise lyrics

Live and studio





Faster, faster
On the way to its own failure
A naked monkey is running
And it destroys its world
Faster, faster
Obsessed clock
Crazy monkey
Seconds count down
Dead trees ask for mercy
Dead trees scream before they die

It's time

Slower and slower
Insanity or sense
It's time to choose the way
The deadline is approaching
Closer, closer
You can see the end
The series "Great Man"
ceased to delight us
pawian 224 | 24,455
3 Jan 2023 #80
KSU - one of my fave groups whose several old songs I have already presented in this thread.

Now two newer ones.

This one is simply brilliant. Musically, coz the message is a bit too leftist to me. Amiga will like it, though. :)

Who will defend you, Poland



They sucked the life out of many
They took away our dignity
They created a country of beggars
that everything is fine
With a smile on the screen
The mockers are playing the show
Predatory mouths open
They still want to devour
No one defends you Poland
When hungry dogs are around
Humiliated nation
Suffering, misery, tears

When their muzzles get fat
The next ones are pushing
They will put their snouts into the troughs
And they will start to milk you
But the food will soon run out
And they will stick their fangs in the stools
And the roles will turn around
And we will kick them out
pawian 224 | 24,455
6 Jan 2023 #81
Now two newer ones.

The other one:
Music is amazing as usual, most of the lyrics is a bit exaggared but the combination of music and lyrics in the chorus is simply genial. Thank you, KSU. You have made history with your artistry.

KSU Techno Techno



Techno techno technocrats
They spin leaves on lettuce
There are poppy seed cakes without poppy seed
And young old sheep
They spin leaves, they melt ice cream
Specialists of bad weather
Genetic front is coming
Gotta get out of here

Chorus (at 0:31)
And nothing changes in Tahiti
Gauguin women are sitting on the beach
And in Tahiti the sails are in half shade
Verlain maids are picking flowers


Techno techno technocrats
They would like to enrich our world
Technoidiot will make rat-ape, cat-hedgehog
Transgenic sperm whales
will go to work for us
We will live with, unfortunately
What the technocretin will come up with

'Cause in Tahiti nothing changes
Gauguin women are dancing on the grass
Because Tahiti's aurora is in flames
Verlain maidens are picking fruit


Techno techno technocrats
Virtual semi-neuters
Technofool will confess love
in a cell phone message

Virtual reproduction
Give them god, technomaster
And we need to make a government
And quickly get out of here

'Cause in Tahiti nothing changes
Gauguin women are sitting on the beach
Because in Tahiti the sails are in half-shadows
Verlain maids are braiding their hair




pawian 224 | 24,455
22 Apr 2023 #82
The average lyrics to this average rock song is quite interesting coz it expresses the feelings of an incorrigible Polish patriot in an ironic way.

The group is Dr Misio - Dr Teddy Bear. Quite unusual as it was started by a known actor - Arkadiusz Jakubik (excellent role in the sitcom 13 Police Presinct).



When I think about her I look her straight in the eye
It's an unpleasant day after a bad night's sleep
When I think about her I'm honest to the core
Gray-gray streets full of dark secrets
So little is happening I'm getting more and more angry
I can't live enough for a little freedom

My ailment is Poland......

When I think about her, I have no doubts
A generation without a chance deprived of youth
I won't have enough life to heal from Poland

My ailment is Poland......

So little happens, almost nothing changes
Life is not enough for me to fulfill my dreams
So little happens time of carefree promises
Life is not enough for me to heal from Poland
Life is not enough for me to heal from Poland

My ailment is Poland......

pawian 224 | 24,455
6 Oct 2023 #83
I can be a hopeless pessimist or an incorrigible optimist depending on the mood. :):):) hahaha

Which one am I before the coming elections? Optimist, of course. :):):)

Here is Kukiz and his band`s song with a very positive message. Check it out coz music is great as usual - energetic melodic post punk.



Sometimes there is sun
Sometimes there is rain
Sometimes there is darkness
Sometimes there is poetry

Everything changes alternately
Sometimes it is OK and sometimes it is not
The sun rises and sets
Always every other day
It will be fine if you want it
If you only want it

Sometimes there is love
Sometimes there is not
Sometimes it is OK
Sometimes it is not

Miloslaw 19 | 4,971
6 Oct 2023 #84
I can be a hopeless pessimist or an incorrigible optimist depending on the mood.

That is a lie.
You are a hopeless pessimist as your choice of music shows..... all nihilistic punk/new wave nonsense and rubbish Polish bands to boot!
There is optimism in Polish Music if you care to search for it.
pawian 224 | 24,455
7 Oct 2023 #85
You are a hopeless pessimist

Hmm, who knows? You can be right. That is why I need to joke and pull legs all the time to prevent that pessimism from taking control of me. :):):)

all nihilistic punk/

Very good music. I prefer heavy metal but hardcore post punk which is fast, energetic and still melodic is the runner- up in my musical preferences.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,971
7 Oct 2023 #86
I prefer heavy metal

Me too, Punk Rock was amateur crap.
pawian 224 | 24,455
7 Oct 2023 #87
Punk Rock was amateur crap.

At its beginnings, yes. Later it evolved into sth much better.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,971
8 Oct 2023 #88
@pawian

Do you like these guys?


mafketis 37 | 10,905
9 Oct 2023 #89
Punk Rock was amateur crap.

How could you?

youtube.com/watch?v=7VnPOE8y3xQ
pawian 224 | 24,455
9 Oct 2023 #90
Do you like these guys?

No, I don`t. This song is too insipid - slow, with boring melody, silly lyrics and irritating howling of the lead singer. Simply speaking, it lacks everything what I appreciate in music.

I don`t know this group, never heard it or of it. If you like it, it means you seriously disengaged yourself from hard rock/ heavy metal trends. :):):):)


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