Jewish Roots of Poland

Erm...you mean that?



thefreedictionary.com/Root


Poland the origin of the Jews? Do they descend from Poland? Nope and nope...
Hence no jewish roots! It can't be that hard, can't it....


I can't and I won't! But there is the difference..

Tell me Jonni, Poland had for many centuries millions of ethnical Germans between it's ever changing borders...would you call Poland having german roots?

*waits expectantly*

It wouldn't be wrong to say that some Poles are of German ancestry and therefore have German ROOTS.

I think there is a small confusion over the thread's tittle.

Poland as a country doesn't have Jewish roots, BUT more than a couple of Poles have Jewish blood in their veins, to some extent.

I think there is HUGE confusion over the thread title..


Agreed!

Who are you and what have you done with my Butcher???

The odd thing is, it was a place Khazars used to get to the rest of Europe and yet Polish Jews do not have Khazarian blood? How can a place with such a Khazarian influence not have any descendants of Khazars?

How many Poles have Khazarian ancestors who converted to Catholicism?

Jonni said there aren't any Khazar's...I have no idea about that if I'm honest....

Jonni has been brainwashed into believing Khazars are a bad thing and believing in their existence and influence means you don't support the Israeli state which is pure hogwash. You can acknowledge Khazaria and this Jewish state's significant influence on Jewish life and culture without condemning Israel, for the sake of historical accuracy...

There were about 2,500,000 Jews in Poland before Nazi Germany occupation, which doesn't even come CLOSE to 3/4 of the Jewish population at those times.

Besides, you guys are forgetting that Jews are generally forbidden to marry peolpe from other religions.
Considering the fact that most Jews in Poland were very religious, especially until the emancipation, I don't really think it's probable that most Poles have got Jewish roots.

What about converts?

Yeah, because Jews only moved to Poland right before Nazi occupation.

Cultural Roots. Not DNA ancestry. A culture has roots without reductionism on the basis of DNA.


Yes, culturally very much so. Poland has never been an island, with eyes closed to all around it. Nor has Germany.


Brainwashed by whom, PP? I'd really like to know.

For for the record, I don't now, nor have ever thought "Khazars are a bad thing". They are an anvient civilisation, long gone, and a long way from Poland. The Khazar Khanate died out centuries ago, and the descendents of the Khazars largely remained in that area. DNA evidence proves that. They did not become Aszkhenazi Jews, as some active racists like to claim. DNA proves that also.

I am still the same.


When will people stop refering to Khazars? They were always a minority and they dissapeared. Polish Jews had more in common with Arabs than with Turks.

By people who believe acknowledging Khazars is a threat to the legitimacy of Israel. What about historical accuracy?

How could they just disappear? I don't believe they did. They moved west :)

Who are they? Sounds like a crank theory. The ancient Khazars are irrelevant to Israel.


What about historical accuracy? Backed up by scientific proof?


They didn't disappear. Their culture largely did. They stayed where they always lived, and the local inhabitants of that region are their descendents.

From what I know, there weren't many of those in Poland.
As I said, Poland was a center of religious Judaism, unlike Germany, which saw the biggest movements of secular Jews.

vetala


Huh?
I was talking about the misinformed fact that was brought here before, that claimed Poland held more of 3/4 of the Jewish world.
5 million European Jews survived the Holocaust. Add it up to the 6 million that were killed, and the other few millions scattered across north Africa, the Arabian peninsula and America.

2.5 million is not really that big of a percentage.

Why so sure?
Although Jews haven't lost their connection to the ancient Israelites, they have indeed mixed at some stage of their history with other folks, even if it was at a small extent. So what if a Jew from Ukraine has Khazar and middle eastern ancestry? He is as Jewish as a black Jew from etiophia (who are considered one of the lost tribes of Israel).

Exactly. People feel threatened by that concept.

@ Jonni...I remember reading there was a war against Khazaria and they left.

Who feels threatened? Seems a bit paranoid.

Israeli Jews tend to feel threatened the most.

Threatened in what way?

The Khazars followed several religions and are not, repeat are not, the ancestors of Ashkenazi Jews.

Unless you have hard evidence to the contrary.

Israel has been threatened for so long that the only chicken thing about israel is in the soup.

We have no fear :)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Frank#Baptism_of_the_Frankists


It's not misinformed at all. Poland did hold 3/4 of the Jewish world. Centuries ago, when they were chased out of all other countries. Where else in the world could they live?

Yes. Poland's borders (Polish/Lithuanian Commonwealth) in the late middle ages went from the Baltic to the Black Sea. A very large area.


Never from Scotland. The only country in Europe to never at any point in history have any anti-semitic law or decree.

Pity it's not known for having the biggest Jewish diaspora in the world, then. But still, kudos to Scotland.

vetala

A small history, but an interesting one.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Scotland

Lol amazing! There have been JEws in EACH country of the world!

Are there Jews in skirts???

Even better:

I suspect you mean kilts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_tartan

Hmmm... three pages in just one day. Yeah, Jews really are special people. Everybody wants to discuss them all the time.

Unbelievable! :)