Jewish Roots of Poland

Well done.

BTW, I asked you before about a phrase in Hebrew or Yiddish - "OO-MAY"(phonetically), but I lost track. I heard it again in a documentary about a charismatic religious woman in Israel. You asked in what context did I hear it, so it was repeated many times during the play Fiddler on the Roof by the rabbi and chorused by his flock. I had a feeling it meant something to the effect of saying "That is so" or "That's true."

MC, why are you so active on these threads? Oh yes, you are a Sephardi Jew, that's right. Enlighten us with what you know, step up to the plate.

Yiddish is a language from the Germanic language family, just like the English language's predecessor Old-English.

That's your approach Seanus, and Yehudi has a different one. Personally I don't think either approach is better or worse than the other but I can respect that people want to treat these matters differently.

Exactly, Rogalski :) It's just a matter of preference.

I remember you asked me that and I had never heard that word. But now that you mention that in Fiddler the rabbi says it and the people repeat it, I now realize what you mean. The word is "umain". That's "Amen", which is what you answer to a blessing. ("So be it.")

The Jews from Galicia and Hungary pronounce it "Umain". Jews from Lithuania pronounce it "Omain". Sefaradi Jews and Israelis say "Ahmen."

Another mystery cleared up.

Yehudi, what are Israeli sources saying was confiscated from the flotilla that was raided? Netanyahu said it was a "ship of hate", how did he know? What actionable intel did the Shin Bet have here? On the face of it, it looks like paranoia and again a disproportionate use of force.

Causing a diplomatic row with Turkey really doesn't make much sense.

I always thought they said Amen, like "Amen" and not "Umain" or "Omain" thanks for the info :D

They didn't tell me.


We're causing a diplomatic row?! Turkey sends 6 boats with anti-Israel activists to break our blockade of terrorist-ruled Gaza and their prime minister curses us day after day, and we're the ones starting a row? We should have sent home the Turkish ambassador, not the other way around. We only did not do it because we know that the Turkish army and many of it s citizens are friendly to israel. We don't want to break off relations with a country just because they happen to have a stupid prime minister right now who wants to use tensions with israel as a political tactic. This is all part of Erdogan's move away from Europe and toward the Arab world. He didn't do all this because of the flotilla or any concern for human rights.

They didn't tell me, LOL. Nice one, yehudi. I like your humour and expected such a response :)

I can agree with what you are saying, yehudi, but you always ran the risk of the Gaza strip being run that way. Hamas came into power and that was that, it wasn't totally out of the blue.

If it indeed was an innocent raid as you seem to see it, why did the UN and even the ME quarter condemn your govt so openly?

I don't want to point the finger of blame here as I know how misleading the Press can be. I just didn't see there being an imminent threat to Israeli soldiers based on eyewitness reports.

Thank you. Another question: In Gela Sekstein's testament that was recovered as part of the Ringelblum Archives, she asked that her paintings of Jewish children and other portraits would be deposited at a future museum in Jerusalem. She was a talented painter and the wife of a historian Isreal Lichtenstein who as the member of Oneg Shabbat along with his two students hid the first part of the archive. She appologizes for the small format of the paintings, imagine, but sites the difficult situation in which she painted. As the archivists documented all events, including art and photographs, I wonder if these survived and are they known and displayed in Isreal?

Erdogan is Hitler resurrected. What a disgusting human being.

He was responsible for the Armenian genocide, was he? ;)

Comparing him to Hitler is just wrong!

I didn't know Erdogan was so well-known in Colombia ;)

1. He denies the Armenian genocide and wants Armenians living in Turkey to gtfo.
2. He even looks like him. He is an antisemite and a nationalist,too.
3. I was born in Colombia, but that doesn't mean I am automatically an ignorant Latino that doesn't know about the world he lives in.

1) Well, that is foolish. Hypocritical too, if true. He respects Ughyurs in China but not Armenians in Turkey?

2) An anti-Semite? So, Israel likes dialogues with anti-Semites? You don't know first thing about Israel in that case.

3) Did the Bogota drug barons finance your internet connection?

Why do you take such an interest in these matters, are you of Jewish descent?

Israel seems to like dialogues with people that hate the country. See negotiations with Egyptians, Jordanians, Lebanese and Turks.


There haven't been drug barons in 10 years. I am sorry, but for a grown-up man, you have both the intelligence and behaviour of a 9-year-old.

And weren't you the guy who started calling me Jewish or "sephardic Ape" (as if you were something superior, which you clearly aren't). Yes, I am of Jewish descent, so what?

People like you are, with all due respect, useless.

I never heard of this artist, although I did read the Ringelblum diaries. I'm not aware of any exhibits here in Israel but I see there's an exhibit in Warsaw: jewishinstitute.org.pl/en/wystawy/czasowe/5.html

Geez, lad, have you ever read up on the relations between Egypt and Israel? They improved markedly under different leaders and Mubarak is really clamping down on any weapons getting into Gaza. Egypt is a puppet state favourable to the US.

Jordanians? Remind me of the Jordanian equivalent of Hezbollah or Hamas! They are not hostile towards Israel to any meaningful extent. Ask Yehudi :)

Lebanese? Granted but they need to agree to bare minimums. I don't see much evidence of fruitful dialogue, if any.

Turkey is an ally of Israel, MC. Can't you see this? Erdogan himself even stressed the need to keep tourism and trade very much alive.

There haven't been drug barons for 10 years? LOL. The CIA wouldn't agree with you. And you are useful? How?

I do know that, but you can't deny most Egyptians are israel-hating humans; the same goes to Turkey.


Erdogan says many things.


I don't give a damn about the CIA. And I am not from Bogota.


I am a student and I work at an asylum. I am not a middle-aged man engaging in pointless discussions with random people on the internet, while pretending to know it all. Truly cringeworthy.

You wouldnt think that after visiting for a holiday its all Russia imo.


Whats cringe worthy about it? Its only conversation, youre making out like Seanus is a peadophile something.

I don't pretend to know what most Egyptians think but I guess you are right. Again I state, please separate the government from the people more explicitly.

Indeed he does! Just like Ahmedinejad who says he wants to destroy Israel and then he retracts it by saying that he doesn't want nukes. It's just politics!

Well, the CIA do seem to have a lot of business there for money laundering purposes. Just ask the NYC banks and Mike Ruppert.

Is 32 middle-aged IYHO? In Japan, maybe, but not here. Well, you are on the same threads as me so what does that make you? Random people? I dislike that element as much as you do but it's a welcome break from teaching on a face-to-face basis.

I don't pretend to know it all, I'm just discussing which is the point.

Russia and Germany too, WB. Russia even more so. German tourism was rocked after the events of Dresden where they harshly treated that Muslim lady.

You asked me why I am so interested in whatever happens to Israel and I gave you a logic answer. Now you're next. Why do you give a damn about Israel, not being jewish/muslim, not living in the Middle east and so on?

Because I am interested in humanitarian issues and international law. Simple?

Thats what they call a no brainer i believe, those dudes have nukes and they are very hostile right now thats what worries me but the list is pretty long.

That actually reminds me of the statement you made to me about music under your old screen name, you said "who are you to comment on music when you dont play an instrument". So by that logic because we are not Muslim or Jewish we should not be interested in Isreal? Not the sharpest tool in the tool box.

Interesting. I would really like to know if you also post on forums where issues in North Korea or Saudi Arabia, or Turkey, or Africa are discussed.

Or is 100% of your attention focused on Israel?

No, human atrocities in the Balkans is also an area which I pay attention to. A bit like Robert Fisk, journalist for The Independent.

WB said it above, B But. Is Roger Waters a Jew or an Arab? No. Is George Galloway? No. Are countless others of activists? No. Yet they still take a keen interest in human rights and decency. Are you ignorant? Seemingly

I am sorry, but your "insults" to my intelligence have no resonance at all.

And what is B But? Funny.

Insults to your intelligence? Do tell.

You are asuming I am an ignorant merely because I don't agree with you or refuse to understand people constantly criticizing Israel for everything.

Yesterday I came to the conclusion that for a Jew to be good in the eyes of European media and/or activists like you, he has to be a victim and not fight back.