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Can Polish people discover they have Jewish heritage themselves?


JustCurious
9 Sep 2023   #1
Paweł Bramson notoriously discovered his Jewish heritage. He used to be a racist neo-nazi (as CNN called him), but his family history and weirdly facial features like dark hair and big nose, indicated he is Jewish.

edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/09/23/poland.jewish/index.html

Same story with Csanad Szegedi:

bbc.com/news/magazine-32549099
Novichok  5 | 8509
9 Sep 2023   #2
Were Adam and Eve Jewish or Catholic?
OP JustCurious
9 Sep 2023   #3
@Novichok According to the scriptures they were Jewish as they were created by the Jewish God.
Novichok  5 | 8509
9 Sep 2023   #4
Did God convert to Catholicism? I was told that God is ours and a Catholic.

How many Gods are there? Something doesn't make sense...
jon357  73 | 23224
9 Sep 2023   #5
heritage

DNA tests don't seem very popular in PL.

That's a shame, because you can discover interesting things as well as finding distant relatives.
OP JustCurious
9 Sep 2023   #6
DNA tests don't seem very popular in PL.

A lot of Poles are concerned with the DNA privacy.
pawian  221 | 26014
9 Sep 2023   #7
Why? What do I lose if you know my DNA???
OP JustCurious
9 Sep 2023   #8
cnbc.com/2018/06/16/5-biggest-risks-of-sharing-dna-with-consumer-genetic-testing-companies.html
pawian  221 | 26014
9 Sep 2023   #9
Sorry, I almost never open such links. The forum rules allow you to paste the introduction of the article - just a few sentences are enough.
jon357  73 | 23224
9 Sep 2023   #10
the DNA privacy.

DNA privacy?

It's not America and you can find out a lot about your roots.
Nickidewbear  23 | 609
10 Sep 2023   #11
@Novichok, they were neither. The first Jew by ethnicity was Isaac. Adam and Eve believed in a Messiah to save them after they fell, though there was no Ethnic Jew before Isaac. There was also nobody Catholic or Non Catholic in terms of how Jesus is viewed, as who the Messiah exactly was would not be revealed until Roman times.
jon357  73 | 23224
10 Sep 2023   #12
Isaac. Adam and Eve

We can't know that any of those existed, especially Adam and Eve who are simply a creation myth.
Nickidewbear  23 | 609
10 Sep 2023   #13
@jon357, you apparently can't. A mitochondrial Eve has been confirmed, and Jews have lived for well over 3,000 years. You can ignore the evidence that upsets even the Darwinists all that you want, nonetheless.
jon357  73 | 23224
10 Sep 2023   #14
mitochondrial Eve has been confirmed

It's been theorised and none of the current theories point to gardens or talking snakes.

Nor was mitochondrial Eve either the first human or the only human of her time.
Nickidewbear  23 | 609
10 Sep 2023   #15
@jon357, there has been at least one fossil of a four-legged snake found. As I said, you can believe whatever you want. The fact that Jews blessed Poland alone (See, e.g., Genesis 12:1-3) should be enough evidence. You can thank us for, e.g., L.L. Zamenhof and the Warner Brothers, by the way (sadly not a part of my family among Israel, as I know, although they all have connections to the Podlaskie-area shtetlach).
jon357  73 | 23224
10 Sep 2023   #16
fossil of a four-legged snake found

From what period?

The fact that Jews blessed Poland alone (See, e.g., Genesis 12:1-3)

Hardly a 'fact' and that text certainly doesn't mention P9land.

Podlaskie-area

A very beautiful place. Do you know it?
Nickidewbear  23 | 609
10 Sep 2023   #17
@JustCurious, I certainly had to find out that I am a Jewish Chernetski and not of Polish szlatccy for myself. The more that I found out, the more interesting that what occurred gets. One cousin even alleged that her birth certificate was mistaken when it read "Mary" and should have read "Stephanie"-her mother was a Crypto-Jewish Supronowicz (Joszefina "Weronika" Czerniecka z Supronowiczów) and apparently genuinely Catholic, and Stephanie seems to have despised "Mary". Another cousin changed her name to "Joan", and still another went into another direction and changed her name from "Nellie" (from Nekhama in Jewish-Ukrainian custom) to "Valeria Lillian".
Alien  25 | 6012
10 Sep 2023   #18
Can Polish people discover they have Jewish heritage themselves?

Why would they do that? ........well, unless to escape from justice to Israel. 🤔
Nickidewbear  23 | 609
10 Sep 2023   #19
@jon357, look it up yourself, since you're clearly not going to believe me or drag me into a disputation. Also, the text mentions "all families", as in God "'will bless those who bless you [i.e., Abraham], and him who dishonors you [God] will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.'"

By the way, I know a little of Podlaskie. I'd stop there only if I could do so on my way to make aliyah. I'd stop there only for as long as I needed to see in person where exactly my paternal grandfather's paternal family ended up, and whence his paternal grandparents and his father left (A few of his relatives, including in-law relatives, returned for visits when they could do so, and some inexplicably returned permanently. If they intended to make aliyah from there, they never could make aliyah either way-as at least one died in the Holocaust, and two died before they could really consider being refuseniks. One died a widow and too vulnerable to make aliyah alone.)

(Conversely, Great-Granddad and his parents never set foot in Poland once they left it.).
jon357  73 | 23224
10 Sep 2023   #20
look it up yourself

Where? There's no reliable source.

Podlaskie

Podlasie?

It's a nice region, a very rich history and a melting pot of different cultures.

make aliyah

A friend recently did that.

He had to take a DNA test and join a religion.
OP JustCurious
10 Sep 2023   #21
well, unless to escape from justice to Israel.

I certainly would like to escape Poland, if this country accused me of offending religious feelings, spreading "misinformation", in reality being skeptical towards covid and stuff and if I got into situation that my reproductive health would be in threat. I don't know, if to Israel, there are many controversies.
Alien  25 | 6012
10 Sep 2023   #22
I certainly would like to escape Poland

If you have a valid reason then why not, but remember that Poland has extradition treaties with many countries.


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