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Male form of female surname


cbehr 1 | 4
23 Jul 2022 #1
What is the male form of the female surname MRUCZKA? I assumed it was MRUCZEK, but could it be MRUK?
pawian 224 | 24,465
23 Jul 2022 #2
MRUCZKA?

Males can also be named Mruczka and have other female sounding surnames.
OP cbehr 1 | 4
23 Jul 2022 #3
My gr grandmother is listed as Katarzyna MRUCZKA, Is her husband's surname definitively MRUK or MRUCZEK or could it be either?
pawian 224 | 24,465
23 Jul 2022 #4
Is her husband's surname definitively MRUK or MRUCZEK

No, it is also Mruczka.
OP cbehr 1 | 4
23 Jul 2022 #5
Thanks for your time.
jon357 74 | 22,060
23 Jul 2022 #6
I assumed it was MRUCZEK

I was at primary school with a girl from my street whose surname was Mrócek
OP cbehr 1 | 4
24 Jul 2022 #7
So basically there is no grammatical rule to help trace back from the inflected form of the surname (MRUCZKA) to the inifinitive or male form of the surname (MRUK/MRUCZEK/MRUCZKA)?
pawian 224 | 24,465
24 Jul 2022 #8
no grammatical rule

There is but not not in his case. If the guy was called Mruczek, his wife is still Mruczek, but can be addressed as Mrs Mruczkowa. If they had a daughter, she could be addressed as Ms Mruczkówna.

However, Mruczka, Beczka, Paczka, etc and other feminine nouns stay the same both for males and females.
Alien 20 | 5,033
24 Jul 2022 #9
However, it's different in the case of a cat. Male cat is Mruczek, female cat is Mruczka.
pawian 224 | 24,465
24 Jul 2022 #10
Male cat is Mruczek, female cat is Mruczka.

Yes, like Puszek and Puszka.
Novichok 4 | 8,073
24 Jul 2022 #11
How about keeping the name what it is? He - Kowal. She - Kowal. Simple. Anna Kowal and the earth is still spinning...
Alien 20 | 5,033
24 Jul 2022 #12
Kowal is no go but there are over 140000 Kowalski/ska, 11 Trump and 3 Putin in Poland.
jon357 74 | 22,060
24 Jul 2022 #13
Kowal is no go

I know people here with that name. It isn't a 'no go'.
Novichok 4 | 8,073
24 Jul 2022 #14
Kowal is no go but there are over 140000 Kowalski/ska,

Why do you need that -ski and -ska? What if he feels like a woman tomorrow and a man the next day?

Will his -ski change to -ska? Kowal is non-binary and so simple.
ForumUser
24 Jul 2022 #15
I've heard of males having "-ska" surnames (such as surnames "Kluska" and "Kraska", etc) but those surnames use same declension as Feminine nouns in singular (As in, singular feminine declensions "-ski", "-sce", "-skę", "-ską", and "-sko") And same declension as Virile nouns (a.k.a. Masculine Personal nouns) in plural, suffixed onto the final consonants "-sk" (As in "-skowie", "-sków", "-skom", "-skami", and "-skach")
OP cbehr 1 | 4
24 Jul 2022 #16
So to be clear, as I fill in the names on my WikiTree profile pages, I will use Katarzyna Mruczka and her father Wojciech Mruczka. I grew up in the 1970's when everyone here called us dumb Pollacks. Seriously, any nation of people that can manage grammar as complex as this is certainly not dumb. Thank you all for your help.
Lenka 5 | 3,490
24 Jul 2022 #17
I will use Katarzyna Mruczka and her father Wojciech Mruczka

Correct

How about keeping the name what it is? He - Kowal. She - Kowal

For someone who spend all his young years in Poland it's interesting you didn't catch it is exactly as it is. The name Kowal stays the same.
pawian 224 | 24,465
24 Jul 2022 #18
Why do you need that -ski and -ska?

We need -ski like McDonalds need Mc. Can you imagine going to a Donald`s for a burger?
Alien 20 | 5,033
24 Jul 2022 #19
My niece always called "domek donaldsa".How this expression "Donald's house" come to be? Very simply. Idziemy do mek donaldsa. Until today Mc Donalds is domek Donaldsa.
pawian 224 | 24,465
27 Jul 2022 #20
Wojciech Mruczka

Yes, it sounds quite pleasant in Polish.

"Donald's house"

I immediately envision Donald Duck`s house.





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