Crest and the meaning of last name Sumski

Im looking for any information on the last name Sumski . I know that it was shortened when they came to the usa. Think there may have been a z in it. any information will help. Thanks

Could have been Szumski.
"Szum" has several meanings, it is a town in Poland, a river, it also means noise, sometimes unwanted noise, a hiss or hum.

SUMSKI: as already stated it could be a 'Masurianised' pronunciation of Szumski from, szum (rustle, murmur, metaphorically commotion as in 'narobić szumu'); or from sum (sheatfish), now the largest sweet-water fish in Poland (often 7 ft in length and 150 lbs).

Thank you .... do you happen to know what part of poland that name was most popular.

does anyone know where i could find the family crest for "Sumski" or what the meaning of the family crest is?

You can find (and buy) it on EBay.

ok Thanks

What would be the polish spelling for Sumski.... I was told it was a longer name and that is why it was shortened.

No seriously - why do you think that there is any family crest associated with this surname?

The only crest I found is actually a Slovakian one. Taking under consideration that currently of 18 people with this surname, 10 lives in Krakow - it may be right clue. Are you sure, you are of Polish ancestry?

On the other hand - the "Szumski" surname is associated with at least three different coats of arms.

No coat of arms for Sumski, but there were nobles amongst the Szumskis who belonged to two separate clans: Poronia and Jastrzębiec.

My wife's family has got a crest, but she's so embarrassed she's never shown me it.

What's the clan-name of her family coat of arms? If unknown, what is her maiden name?

I know Sumski is not the original name ... i was told it was very long with a z and maybe a p and ch in it... im trying to find out what the original name was but no one who would know is still living. I do know there is a family crest because it is in the family but im unable to contact the person who we think has it. If i do find it how do you figure out the meaning of it are there certain symbols that mean certain things and is there a website that might be able to help me do that?

If you say it was with a zed (or sz in other words) and was longer, then it might have been: Szumkowski, Szumiłowski Szumiński, Szumliński, Szumotalski, Szumicki; Szumnarski, etc.

But 'might have been' is prue guesswork. You would have to come up with some documents or other evidence pointing to one of those names, otherwise you'll be off on a wild goose chase.

Szumski was my grand mother's maiden name (she was from a noble family) living in 1920's in Novogrodek area of Poland (currently Belarus).

There were two noble lines amongst the bearers of the Szumski surname belonging either to the Jastrzębiec or Poronia clans. Google Jastrząbiec coat of arms and Poronia coat of arms to see what those heraldic devices look like.

Szumiloswki

SUMSKI: probably a surname of toponymic origin from several localities called Sumy (catfish), now in Ukraine and Belarus. No coat of arms. Sum and Sumowski did have gentry lines amongst their members.

My last name is Zumski. When my great grandfather and his brother came over from Poland they changed the last name to Zumski from Szumski. I had no idea that the Szumski's were of noble blood. That's pretty cool. I've been trying to track down some of my extended family myself.

Came to which country?


The English word "noble" is used in an inflationary was sometimes in translatiuon from Polish. A closer translation of Szlachta is "gentlefolk" since there between 12 and 18% of the population were szlachta, a rather high proportion to be noble in the sense that English-speakers would use the word.

My name is Szumski and l live in England. My father was born in 1920 in Wilno.

Not necessarily, you would need to check it out. It is possible to have that names have nothing to do with nobility.

Sumy is a city in Ukraine.

Sumski, meaning "from Sumy", is a popular last name in Ukraine. More often for Jews.

These types of threads are a good argument against emigration. Within two generations, people haven't the faintest clue of what their homeland is, and have to ask people on Internet forums.

@Bobko, it looks like Szumski is a Polish surname:

waw4free.pl/wydarzenie-54407-bogumil-szumski-brat-marii-dabrowskiej-zolnierz-beliny-i-generala-maczka

First of all, "szum" in Polish means "hum, noise" etc. And this surname comes from those place names: Szumsk (Wilno region, among others), Szumsko (Opatów region), Szum (regions in Poland and Ukraine) or Szumy (Belarus):

genezanazwisk.pl/content/szumski

In Russian and Ukrainian it is the same, «шум». Then it would be Shumsky/Shumski/Shumov/Shumelev/Shumko. He said it was Sumski.

It sounds like you've been living too long in the US and you "forgot" how history in this part of Europe messed with borders and family histories. 🤨


You mean OP? I meant Reesh1 - he wrote "Szumski".
And as for OP - read his post again. He wrote: "it was shortened when they came to the usa. Think there may have been a z in it."

It could not mess with it, to a point you don't even know what country, let alone city, your ancestors lived in.

I know my family history going back to the 12th century. Which region we came from, whom we served, what my great-great-great grandfather did to earn his surname, etc.

These kinda rootless, homeless, clueless people really irritate me. I commend them for at least showing the curiosity, but it really is spitting in the face of your ancestors not to know where your grandparents emigrated from less than 200 years ago.

Of course it could.


Good for you lol But many people don't bother to research their family history. Also, people's families can have different histories. Different than yours.


From what I understand the OP isn't "rootless, homeless". Since her ancestors came to the US - I'm guessing that she's an American.

Sorry, may have been a bit unfair. The blame lies with their parents.


WTF does that mean?

Is this some consumer brand? An advertising campaign?

What does American mean?

I'm talking about blood and memory.

Ask Novichok lol

Novichok is a convinced emigrant.

I would shoot myself before accepting an American passport.

What can I discuss with him on this front?

He'll probably tell me it's a condition of the soul and a framework of the mind. That's all well and good, but what am I to do with that when I have 800 years of documented family history tying me to a place?

Some of the friends I made through college in the States, are from other European countries, where they know their history going back to the 9th century - not 12th.

Don't even bring up the Central Asians and the Chinese which can give lectures about what their ancestor did in the 5th century.

Americans are without roots, a bastard child of history.

And I'm guessing that tlckrsum's ancestors came to the US years ago and she was born in the US.


I don't know... How about... go back where you belong...? lol You clearly aren't and don't consider yourself to be an American, so I don't know what you and your family history has anything to do with it.


Nonsense - of course they have roots, like everyone else. And it's a young country built by immigrants, so I don't know what you expect... o_O