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Half-free Christmas bigos. SMACZNEGO at Christmastime!


pawian  221 | 25032
23 Dec 2022   #61
How are they different ?

US varieties are all F1 hybrids while in Poland most aren`t and traditional farmers use old Polish cultivars from decades ago.

This one is the best for Polish climate and for fermenting. Do you see Polish colours on the packet? Read and learn, głąbie kapuściany. Ha!


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pawian  221 | 25032
23 Dec 2022   #62
So why do you argue

Me? I never argue, remember. You are arguing all the time, berating Polish bigos and supporting your buddies who say it is dog vomit. Ha!

A. Mickiewicz said:

You shouldn`t mention Mickiewicz who was a political emigrant exiled by Russian authorities while you emigrated to the USA chasing money! Ha!

Now you understand, hadzie jeden?

Yes, I understand that as an emigrant, you have always been jealous of Poles who are living in Poland. Ha!
johnny reb  47 | 7568
23 Dec 2022   #63
US varieties are all F1 hybrids

Mine aren't.
You can buy Polish cabbage seeds here in the U.S.A.

US varieties are all F1 hybrids while in Poland most aren`t

While in Poland "most" aren't but some are.
In the U.S. most of our cabbage comes from Canada.
Sit you down blindfolded for a taste test of six different kinds and you couldn't tell the difference if it was grown in Poland, the U.S., Canada, Russia or if it was F1 or G2.

And the ones in the picture are hybrid seeds, aren't they ?
You are always an authority on things you know nothing about.
pawian  221 | 25032
23 Dec 2022   #64
Mine aren't.

Mine?? You don`t grow any veg. Stop twisting. :)

In the U.S. most of our cabbage comes from Canada.

hahaha Yes, Ptak`s bigos made with Canadian cabbage is really Polish.

And the ones in the picture are hybrid seeds, aren't they ?

Of course not. It is an old Polish cultivar, already used 50 years ago.
johnny reb  47 | 7568
23 Dec 2022   #65
You don`t grow any veg.

Prove it

Ptak`s bigos made with Canadian cabbage

Stop twisting it, I said "most" of our cabbage comes from Canada.
I am sure Ptak grows his own cabbage from Polish seed but he would never tell you just to keep you guessing.
Besides, what makes Polands cabbage so special.
My guess is that hey are very inferior to a hybrid.

It is an old Polish cultivar, already used 50 years ago.

So you are telling us that you are eating 50 year old used cabbage now.
My cabbage is bigger than your cabbage. Na Na Na !
pawian  221 | 25032
23 Dec 2022   #66
My cabbage is bigger than your cabbage.

Of course coz yours is GM. Simple.

Prove it

That you aren`t a grower? Coz you have never mentioned it since 2014, even when you commented on my posts in Farming threads.

I am sure Ptak grows his own cabbage from Polish seed

No, he doesn`t. He isn`t a hard-working farmer type, he prefers easy hunting. Blood is thicker than soil to him. :):)
johnny reb  47 | 7568
23 Dec 2022   #67
He is a tap endlessly turning,

Spot on.
If we ever had a bigos cook off, there is no doubt Ptak would win it hands down.
That sour bitter Polish cabbage just doesn't cut it compared to the sweet hybrid stuff.

That you aren`t a grower? Coz you have never mentioned it

Oh, so that is your proof ? lmao
Przelotnyptak1  - | 307
23 Dec 2022   #68
My cabbage is bigger than your cabbage. Na Na Na !

I suspect not only is your cabbage bigger, Heeeee. The world's most significant grown in Alaska is fifty pounds per head on average. Please keep it a secret from Paw

as his friend; I want to protect him from developing a hernia. Five-pounder is all he can safely handle:::)))
pawian  221 | 25032
23 Dec 2022   #69
Quickly google, Alaskan cabbage

OK, large and heavy, indeed. So you were right. I am sorry for suggesting it is made of ice. :):):)
Przelotnyptak1  - | 307
23 Dec 2022   #70
The first sign of humility, Good for the start. I hope this is the beginning of the long road to rehabilitation and continued friendship:::)))
amiga500  5 | 1493
24 Dec 2022   #71
Well it's time for swięta and that means a digital detox too. We have herrings, barscz and polish salad so keeping up the traditions. I wish all PFers a very happy holy days and a rocking new years eve. and remember to be nice on this forum over this sacred time.
GefreiterKania  31 | 1429
24 Dec 2022   #72
Merry Christmas everyone!

that means a digital detox too

Good idea! :)
Przelotnyptak1  - | 307
24 Dec 2022   #73
No, he doesn`t. He isn`t a hard-working farmer type; he prefers easy hunting. Blood is thicker than soil to him. :):)

I will answer the hunting question after the Holidays. It is impossible to discuss a subject you know very little about and not get frustrated, leading to coarse language. Peace on earth. Platonic love, understanding, and tolerance. God is borne.
pawian  221 | 25032
24 Dec 2022   #75
continued friendship:

Only on condition you stop critisizing my amasing Polish bigos. You did it here and how did it end?? - with your emotional breakdown and abuse of other posters. We don`t need anymore of it. Ha!

get frustrated, leading to coarse language.

Try to stay calm, for God`s sake. :):)

Everyone, please stick to the topic of the thread.
pawian  221 | 25032
26 Dec 2022   #76
Paw corn on the cob is delicious, the American kind.

Exactly. That is why I decided to have my Polish bigos with corn on TWO cobs. Just to honour you, a Polish expat in America. I added two avocado halves with bigos filling, I hope you won`t mind coz Mexico is America`s closest neighbour and you surely know a lot of good Mexicans in your neighbourhood.

The taste - incomparable to anything you have eaten so far.


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Alien  23 | 5618
26 Dec 2022   #77
@pawian
Now I know why your last post was so long ago. You got indigestion.🥘
pawian  221 | 25032
26 Dec 2022   #78
indigestion.

What is it???

your last post was so long ago

I was spending time with family.
Alien  23 | 5618
26 Dec 2022   #79
What is it???

Dyspepsia.....
pawian  221 | 25032
26 Dec 2022   #80
A German dish? I don`t know how to cook it.
Alien  23 | 5618
26 Dec 2022   #81
@pawian
Take Kartoffelsalat, mix with Wiener würstchen, drink Kräuterlikör, then smoke a one. Dyspepsia is fertig.
Lenka  5 | 3497
26 Dec 2022   #82
@Pawian

Your bigos looks very pale...
pawian  221 | 25032
26 Dec 2022   #83
very pale...

Yes, coz I used a flash while taking a photo. And my camera settings were on enhanced light, too.
How about now?
If it still looks too pale, the reason might be that I eventually didn`t add tomato paste. I can be so forgetful.

Forgive me, please. Bang, bang, bang - the sound that my head is producing while contacting the surface of my desk.


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Joker  2 | 2171
26 Dec 2022   #84
It looks like something from a homeless food pantry. LOL
pawian  221 | 25032
26 Dec 2022   #85
You are an expert on homelessness, we presume. Very well! :):)
I mean very well that you can share your expertise in the forum. But we pity your condition nevertheless.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 307
26 Dec 2022   #86
Your bigos looks very pale...

You are right; the color resembles mizeria , much closer than bigos, Not to mention the crazy additions. However, bigos is perfect the way it is; his experimenting is a great subtraction instead of multiplication.

Consider the afront to delicious razowiec, the only allowable addition.
pawian  221 | 25032
26 Dec 2022   #87
You are right; the color resembles mizeria ,

Don`t be silly, change your monitor colour settings and you will see it in normal colour again. :):):)

the only allowable addition.

Who set the only allowable additions??? :):):)

his experimenting

My experimenting is a result of my general versatility. which also encompasses taste. Experiment in my second name.
With or without experiments, it is still classical Polish bigos. Anybody who denies it is an azhole. Simple.
Przelotnyptak1  - | 307
26 Dec 2022   #88
Anybody who denies it is an azhole. Simple.

Yeah? I retort: Anyone who excepts avocado and corn as excepted additions is a quadruple azhole Heeeee
pawian  221 | 25032
27 Dec 2022   #89
Anyone who excepts avocado and corn as excepted additions

I can add anything as a side dish and it is still Polish bigos. Ha!
jon357  73 | 22999
27 Dec 2022   #90
the colour resembles mizeria

I didn't think it looked much like mizeria (one of the nicer Polish dishes). I've seen bigos that pale a few times, though the darker one with red wine is always better.

anything as a side dish and it is still Polish bigos.

It works well served in giant Yorkshire puddings (as does anything really).

Who set the only allowable additions?

Juliusz Słowacki. After his famous food fight with Marie Skłodowska-Curie (who always microwaved hers).


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