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Half-free Christmas bigos. SMACZNEGO at Christmastime!


Lyzko 45 | 9,438
22 Dec 2022 #31
Although we don't celebrate, last year, after much nagging on my part, my wife finally made me two classic Polish Christmas favorites (I've been told): Kluski z makiem (noodles with poppy seeds) plus grzadki i koper, kinki z smietanka surowa aka beets with dill, caraway seeds and sour cream.

Yum-yum!!
WESOLYCH SWIAT ORAZ SZCZESLIWEGO NOWEGO ROKU
Przelotnyptak1 - | 293
22 Dec 2022 #32
I never trample on Polish traditions - I only modify them a bit

You could easily fool me. Holly cow!! Bigos, the pinnacle of Polish culinary traditions.What a f*ck ,konski zab does not qualify as corn on the cob. What Tradition are you supporting, picnic at the country fair? , Tradition excludes changes; that's what is called Tradition. Traditional Polish hunter's soup does not need additions; it is perfect in its original form, adding pepper borders on blasphemy. What's next, black bananas?Sh*t, In my vivid imagination, I picture Paw the Hunter traversing Puszcze Bialowieska trampling, dorodne borowiki in search of corn and peppers:::)))
pawian 224 | 24,465
22 Dec 2022 #33
What's next, black bananas?Sh*t,

Nope. I never overdo, just modify a little. Forgive me my need for diversion, it has saved me from sinking into complete madness many times. :):)

::)))

hahahaha :):):):) hihihihi

However, I see you entirely focus on me and refuse to comment on johhny`s nasty comment on bigos as dog vomit. Why??

grzadki i koper, kinki z smietanka surowa aka beets with dill, caraway seeds and sour cream.

Excellent! The dishes that were popular in medieval times. You are the most traditional of all.

Holly cow!! What a f*ck blasphemy. Sh*t,

:):):) Ptak, I have never read you so annoyed. Is bigos your fave dish?? I am so sorry, I really didn`t intend to unnerve you with that corn on the cob. I just like corn* and eat it with everything. Forgive me like a true Christian at Christmas time.

* My liking for corn originates from my stay in the USA. You should be even glad as a Polish American expat.

Please cut down on the number of quotes in your posts.
Przelotnyptak1 - | 293
22 Dec 2022 #34
corn on the cob. I just like corn*

Paw corn on the cob is delicious, the American kind. What I got in Warsaw, Poland, on my last visit was an abomination KONSKI ZAB not for human consumption.

Bigos, and corn combination should not be allowed. Are you trying to kill traditional delicacy, you murderer?
pawian 224 | 24,465
22 Dec 2022 #35
Paw corn on the cob is delicious, the American kind

Exactly!

What I got in Warsaw, Poland, on my last visit was an abomination

Why do you hold me responsible for what you got in Warsaw??? I live in southern Poland`s countryside, 350 kilometers from Warsaw. I love this city but their culinary customs aren`t the same as ours in my rural area.

Bigos, and corn combination should not be allowed

Why not?? It is still Polish traditional bigos, only a little enriched with unusual side stuff. We do need more diversion in our lives here, believe me. The war is so close and you still want to deprive me of having my fave corn???

Hey, I have an idea!!! Tomorrow I will eat my last portion of bigos with corn on TWO cobs!!! What do you think???????????????

you murderer?

Please, don`t use such strong words on me. It is Russians who are murderers. You should have known it by now.
pawian 224 | 24,465
22 Dec 2022 #36
Hey, Ptak, I asked you a question:
However, I see you entirely focus on me and refuse to comment on johhny`s nasty comment on bigos as dog vomit. Why??

Don`t forget to answer it coz I won`t forget prying this answer from you. :):):) I am not so forgetful after all. :):)
Przelotnyptak1 - | 293
22 Dec 2022 #37
culinary customs aren`t the same as ours in my rural area.

Well, that's better. what is remaining to be done, for you to distinguish between "konski zab" and proper sweet corn.

Why not?? It is still Polish traditional bigos, only a little enriched with unusual side stuff.

You see enriched where I see diminished by needles addition. Like Szczelec in the mirage of "progress, he has abandoned the decency given to him

at birth. Layer by layer, he left human behavior behind. That's what is left when one dismisses the rules of civility and traditions.

Please, don`t use such strong words on me. It is Russians who are murderers.

Russians, in the category of harvesting humans; you, on the other hand, in the less evil category, take delight in murdering long-honored Polish traditions:::)))

johhny`s nasty comment on bigos as dog vomit. Why??

You are so biased that the threes obstruct your view of the forest Johnny is well-versed in Polish culinary traditions. Dweller of beautiful Northern Michigan

AKA a Polish country, Johnny can't help but love Polish food, bigos included. The fault was yours, and you usually take beautiful pictures; food is tricky though

Instead of blaming Johnny, pay attention to the aesthetics of the picture:::)))
johnny reb 48 | 7,120
23 Dec 2022 #38
Johnny can't help but love Polish food, bigos included.

This is true Ptak.
I could make a meal out of just the sauerkraut and shredded fresh cabbage.
Bigos to me would be adding some nice ground venison to it.
Przelotnyptak1 - | 293
23 Dec 2022 #39
That's good, very good, Johnny, but the crazed innovator Paw insists on ruining perfect Bigos by overloading it with corn on the cob, not the sweet corn, by the kind designated for cow feed ::::)))
jon357 74 | 22,056
23 Dec 2022 #40
perfect Bigos

hard to describe bigos as 'perfect', however I find that most Polish food (apart from the cakes, and even then...) is lifted nicely by the addition of chillies.
pawian 224 | 24,465
23 Dec 2022 #41
murdering long-honored Polish traditions:

Amasing hysteria you are producing here. :):) Murdering bigos would be dropping it altogether. While I only added a tiny innocent piece of corn to it. It surely isn`t murdering. Ha!

Johnny can't help but love Polish food, bigos included.

Ha, you little twister! It was johhny who described bigos as dog vomit. And you gladly swallowed it. Ha!

The fault was yours,

Ha, twisting again? Bigos looks the same in all photos, so it wasn`t my fault. You are simply intent of defending your Am buddy coz you hate true Polishness, in fact. My bigos is a all Polish and that bothers you so much, trecherous ex-Pole. Ha!
johnny reb 48 | 7,120
23 Dec 2022 #42
It surely isn`t murdering.

Actually, it is and Ptak is correct, and you are wrong.
Ptak is an excellent Polish chef and bigos is one of his specialties.

and that bothers you

You are the one that is having the jealous meltdown because you were corrected by Ptak on a Christmas bigos dinner.
Learn to get over yourself.
pawian 224 | 24,465
23 Dec 2022 #43
Ptak is Polish chef

Bigos made in the US with local ingredients ceases to be originally Polish and turns into international mish mash. Ha!

jealous

Exactly. It was Ptak who was jealous of my truly Polish bigos, that is why he critisized it and happily endorsed your calling it dog vomit. Ha!
Przelotnyptak1 - | 293
23 Dec 2022 #44
s lifted nicely by the addition of chillies.

You might be correct, but in Poland, spicy food was not widely spread and newer very popular. Some of it is an acquired taste. In my case, seafood is the perfect example,

I was not able to swallow the cherrystone clam; it expanded in my mouth to gigantic proportions, making it impossible to swallow.
Now I love it
johnny reb 48 | 7,120
23 Dec 2022 #45
Bigos made in the US with local ingredients ceases to be originally Polish

Again, you seem to be an authority on something you know nothing about.
There are Polish food stores all over the place with imported Polish foods and spices but since you don't live here you wouldn't know that.

We have organic cabbage grown here which is much better than the cabbage grown in your backyard in Poland where dogs pee on it.
And unlike Poland, here in America, we grow it fresh year around.
It's not taken from some stored moldy root cellar or basement.

Ptak who was jealous of my truly Polish bigos, that is why he critisized it

He was anything but jealous of how you destroyed your dish of bigos with field corn.
Lyzko 45 | 9,438
23 Dec 2022 #46
I LOVE bigos, in fact, can't think of a mainstream Polish dish which I don't enjoy:-) Germans typically refer to it as "Jaegerkraut" or "hunter's cabbage".
Przelotnyptak1 - | 293
23 Dec 2022 #47
Ha, you little twister! It was johhny who described bigos as dog vomit. And you gladly swallowed it. Ha!

Are you not paying attention to my answer? Johnny loves Polish food, including bigos. However, objecting to your photography presentation is a different matter altogether.

The ecstatic part of the presentation can not be overstated, and if not careful, it might be disastrous; this was what Johnny was objecting to.
johnny reb 48 | 7,120
23 Dec 2022 #48
I love Polish food and bigos is one of my favorites.
Americans typically refer to it as, "Polish Stew".
To do it properly it should be done days in advance by heating and cooling several times for full flavor.
Lyzko 45 | 9,438
23 Dec 2022 #49
Still doesn't do justice to the dish, folks!
pawian 224 | 24,465
23 Dec 2022 #50
I love Polish food and bigos is one of my favorites.

Now you are twisting around. You saw and learnt about bigos only in this thread. When you commented on it, it was clear you didn`t know what you were talking about: here are your words again:

Looks like dog vomit and no doubt smells like it too.
I thought bathtub carp was the Polish dish at Christmas.


Americans typically refer to it as, "Polish Stew".

You just googled it. :)

objecting to your photography presentation

My photography presentation is standard like on thousands sites which contain such photos. Stop twisting coz you are defending johhny`s silly words only because he is your Am buddy while you are no longer a true Pole but an international mish mash after 40 years in the US. Ha!
Lenka 5 | 3,490
23 Dec 2022 #51
objecting to your photography presentation is a different matter altogether.

Bigos, even though delicious, never looks appetising.
Przelotnyptak1 - | 293
23 Dec 2022 #52
bigos made in the US with local ingredients ceases to be originally Polish and turns into an international mish mash

That is not where bigos is concerned. Sourcraut is no different than Polish. I make my own. My bigos is superior to anything you can make unless you are a hunter and smoke the venison before adding it to the percolating pot. Pork is a distant second, an imitation of the real thing. Notice the absence of corn and abundance of borowiki
johnny reb 48 | 7,120
23 Dec 2022 #53
You just googled it. :)

I admit it.
I just wanted to be one up on Lyzko's googling.

only because he is your Am buddy

See, you are jealous again since you have no Polish buddies or American buddies or any buddies period.
Make yourself useful and go make some Polish Stew, I mean bigos with Ptaks superior recipe compared to yours instead of fighting with everyone with your twisting of words.
pawian 224 | 24,465
23 Dec 2022 #54
Sourcraut is no different than Polish. I make my own.

Not really.. You have other varieties of cabbage in the US, they have different taste than Polish ones. Also, different soil and climate. Don`t tell us you make Polish bigos, then. :):):)
johnny reb 48 | 7,120
23 Dec 2022 #55
No, we have white cabbage too.
In fact we have more different kinds to choose from than Poland does.
Przelotnyptak1 - | 293
23 Dec 2022 #56
To do it properly it should be done days in advance by heating and cooling several times for full flavor.

Paw, you see how effortlessly Johnny shames you with a superior knowledge of Polish bigos. You Paw never mentions the fact that bigos taste is enhanced greatly after reheating. It took Johnny from Michigan to teach you the widely-known fact:::)))
pawian 224 | 24,465
23 Dec 2022 #57
You Paw never mentions the fact that bigos taste is enhanced greatly after reheating

I don`t need to say it. It is enough that I am doing it!! Today I am having my third portion of bigos which I made 2 days ago. Ha!

Hey, family, where are cobs??? Anybody saw two cobs???

It took Johnny from Michigan to teach

google based "teaching" doesn`t matter in true Polish circles. hahaha
Przelotnyptak1 - | 293
23 Dec 2022 #58
No, we have white cabbage too.In fact, we have more different kinds to choose from than Poland does.

In addition to Polish sauerkraut from all the supermarkets and thousands of mom-and-pop shops. Authentic from Poland, can you hear me now?
pawian 224 | 24,465
23 Dec 2022 #59
can you hear me now?

But you said you make your own sauerkraut from Am cabbage which is different from Polish one. Ha!
johnny reb 48 | 7,120
23 Dec 2022 #60
Am cabbage which is different from Polish one.

How are they different ?
Please provide your googled sources with your answer


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