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Quran translation - I am from UK and looking for a muslim Polish man in UK


johnny reb 16 | 3,478
7 Jan 2018  #31
I wouldn't do that because I'm me.

I said that with tongue in cheek as like in all religions it is all in how you interpret it.
If it is convenient then it is used, if it is not convenient then it is twisted so it is convenient.
The Muslims stand as strong in the beliefs as strong as I stand in my Christian beliefs.
The only difference between the Cow and my Bible is nowhere in my Bible does it tell be to kill infidels.
kaprys 1 | 1,689
7 Jan 2018  #32
I believe any sort of radicalism and fundamentalism is wrong.
AliAli - | 13
7 Jan 2018  #33
About killing the non believers herb 100 versesand there is more.
openbible.info/topics/killing_non_believers
mafketis 17 | 6,908
7 Jan 2018  #34
Yes! I agree both the Bible and Koran are terrible guides for morality! they stink!
OP Truthfinder
7 Jan 2018  #35
Every one is different when it comes to their personalty if some muslim man treat a non muslim women wrong way that has nothing to do with the religious at all

same as if a Christin treat a muslim women badly that does not make Christianity responsible for his wrong doing or it does?

Its media which change your thinking and you start blaming to any one who has a muslim name for his wrong doing to his religious

why we dont do the same with Christianity if a Christin do any thing wrong you should say Christin man did this why double standards ???

Racialism , killing, or women has low status is wrong for sure all agree but what would you do if your bible teaches that ????

"The Muslims stand as strong in the beliefs as strong as I stand in my Christian beliefs.
The only difference between the Cow and my Bible is nowhere in my Bible does it tell be to kill infidels."

I appciate your honestly mate we both has our beliefs and let me tell you we are not much different if we follow our books for example a muslim cant be a muslim if he does not belive on Jesus a message of God

and let me correct you here christin and jews are not infidels because we do believe on same God with the few variations you says jesus is god we say he is not .

like jesus said my father our load and our God is one . He never said worship me as god

Now as far killing the infidels is concerned Quran does says that but its is if infidels comes for war then kill them in the battle field and if they want peace peace is better then the war. same like every army genral says to his army nothing wrong in that

If it was like you are saying there will not arab christin today we have in arab countried more then 6 million christine lives and they are christine from centeries they are free to follow their faith

Are muslim free in Christin countries to follow their belives poland is not an open society we get loads of christine attacking muslim in poland even in england .

now let me educate you that your own bible your Jesus said the same thing what God is saying in Quran

But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'" Luke 19:27

Same if you dont accept me as your king then all you infidels ll get dead thats what Jesus said
True or false
Bieganski 17 | 906
7 Jan 2018  #36
agree both the Bible and Koran are terrible guides for morality! they stink!

The source of their stench is the Torah. Look at the link prior to your post. Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy cited are all part of the Torah and were only made part of the Old Testament after the fact.

The figure Samuel and other cast of characters are also featured in each of the Abrahamic faiths.

All the evangelists were at one time Hebrew practitioners and Christianity itself wouldn't be alive today if it weren't for the fanatical Jewish convert to Christianity Saul (aka Paul) and all the proselytizing letters he wrote.
OP Truthfinder
7 Jan 2018  #37
@johnny reb
Thanks for that mate
Yes we still have our moral values for sure we would respect the women and run away not like christin man who ll enjoy and a women who got no issue to flash her assets :)

We still believe that our children should be a legit children not a bastard children even Clinton did not know who is his real father so good luck to chrisin they got hard work to do ahead to find their real father from 10 men i guess lol
OP Truthfinder
7 Jan 2018  #38
@Bieganski

If i buy a bible and its a holy book for Christens and Torah is part of bible if it was not worth any thing to christin it wound be the part of your holly book it ll be thrown out of bible and my links are not all of them from Torah some are what Luke or st Paul wrote.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,462
7 Jan 2018  #39
good luck to chrisin they got hard work to do ahead to find their real father from 10 men i guess lol

legit children not a bastard children

I can see the hate and bigotry in you from what you have written here, Is this what you want for Poland.
Bieganski 17 | 906
7 Jan 2018  #40
some are what Luke or st Paul wrote

Scholars who study religion found that both of these characters started life as practicing Jews who then split off to create Christianity. Same with islam; apart from the number of followers it has far more in common with judaism than any other religion.

I can see the hate and bigotry in you from what you have written here, Is this what you want for Poland.

Of course. Look at what they have been doing in Rotherham and in other cities around the UK and the EU.
AliAli - | 13
7 Jan 2018  #41
@mafketis
With respect I don't agree with you. Quran claims its word of ALLAH, challenging people to find one single contradiction or mistake. full of miracles and prophecies that science confirm nowadays, unlike Bible or other scriptures
Bieganski 17 | 906
7 Jan 2018  #42
Quran claims its word of ALLAH, challenging people to find one single contradiction or mistake. full of miracles and prophecies that science confirm nowadays

No, like any religion it's a money maker for some and a distraction for most.

Science is a study based on observation and experimentation. Science didn't come about to prove the Bronze Age myths of Middle East fanatics. Science has disproved such fables centuries ago.

Indeed, here is what science has currently discovered about our place in the universe



Our very existence in the universe to put it kindly is minute and that means religion (at best culturally quaint) is so infinitesimal that beyond Earth's atmosphere it doesn't and will never register in the whole scheme of things.
G (undercover)
7 Jan 2018  #43
Every one is different when it comes to their personalty if some muslim man treat a non muslim women wrong way that has nothing to do with the religious at all

Who cares where it comes from ? The share of fanatics, terrorists, perverts, criminals, analphabets, parasites and crap of all kind is huge among muslims. These are not the people any sane society needs.
mafketis 17 | 6,908
7 Jan 2018  #44
challenging people to find one single contradiction or mistake

ants don't speak

horse don't have wings

sperm is not produced in the spin

the sun does not descend into a small pool of water

DONE!

Please find speaking ants or winged horses or stop saying there are no mistakes in the koran.
Vesko Vukovic - | 48
7 Jan 2018  #45
What kind of religion teaches its followers that if you strap on explosives and blow yourself up in the London metro, killing 45 innocent civilians (including women and children) that you will end up in paradise awaited by 72 virgins?
dolnoslask 5 | 2,462
7 Jan 2018  #46
And the hypocrisy continues, it appears that it is ok to spread Islam to western countries but western language and culture is not acceptable in Islamic states.

the libtards here would go bezerk if someone said that Islam was a "Invasion" but seem to be happy when Islamic countries ban western language culture and ideals.

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jon357 64 | 14,382
7 Jan 2018  #47
western language and culture is not acceptable in Islamic states.

Really?
mafketis 17 | 6,908
7 Jan 2018  #48
yup

washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/02/13/swedens-feminist-government-criticized-for-wearing-headscarves-in-iran/?utm_term=.8fac5ab9dc1a
dolnoslask 5 | 2,462
7 Jan 2018  #49
Really?

Just go ahead and kiss your boyfriend in the street in an Islamic country and see what happens.
OP Truthfinder
7 Jan 2018  #50
Of course. Look at what they have been doing in Rotherham and in other cities around the UK and the EU.

good point but let me tell you what christain are doing in muslim countries afghanistan pakistan iraq syria burma you name is millions are dead including children womens men old men etc is t that you are proud of ?? is that what your bible teaches you? and yet you lied about muslim

look what christain did to the world let see

christain kills natives in usa australia and become master of the land the local people were killed and wiped out of their country

let compare with muslims rulers here in spain muslims rules more then 800 years and yet its christain country
dolnoslask 5 | 2,462
7 Jan 2018  #51
Look at what they have been doing in Rotherham

What have they been doing please explain.
OP Truthfinder
7 Jan 2018  #52
And the hypocrisy continues, it appears that it is ok to spread Islam to western countries but western language and culture is not acceptable in Islamic states.

the libtards here would go bezerk if someone said that Islam was a "Invasion" but seem to be happy when Islamic countries ban western language culture and ideals.

As far languages are concerned i dont think any one has any issue how ever like in germany or france they dont like english so if iran is same row whats your problem in it

now western culture has no issue if its based upon bible how ever bible does not allow bastard child or sex before marriage but its part of western culture now

so rather then telling us i think you need to correct your self and follow you book at least you can do that if you think you are christin
Wulkan - | 3,255
7 Jan 2018  #53
good point but let me tell you what christain are doing in muslim countries afghanistan pakistan iraq syria burma you name is millions are dead including children womens men old men

First thing they don't do it for religious reasons, second thing, the intentions are good, they kill talibans, not their fault that sometimes innocent people get in a way and die too. Most of those countries asked for help anyway.

muslims rulers here in spain muslims rules more then 800 years and yet its christain country

Thanks god! otherwise Spain would be the Egypt of Europe, a place to avoid.
OP Truthfinder
7 Jan 2018  #54
dolnoslask 2 |

tell me what your bible says about sex before marriage ??? your problem is you dont know what to do ....
if you do not have any issue that your own sister and daughter sleep with any men she wants and become a public property good luck with that i know so many christin single mothers how their lives are now

now the question is bible does not allow this then why do you ????
dolnoslask 5 | 2,462
7 Jan 2018  #55
follow you book at least you can do that if you think you are christin

What makes you think I am a christian or even follow the bible, from what I have seen here on this thread is that you have an obsessive and unhealthy view that anyone who questions or enters into debate with you must be a a bible bashing Christian.

It seems to me that you have problem with Christians, do you also have a bias and problems with Shia and Sunni muslims?
Wulkan - | 3,255
7 Jan 2018  #56
Getting back to the topic. Nobody in his sane mind is going to translate the whole quran into Polish for £200, Islam has no future in Poland anyway so don't waste your time.
OP Truthfinder
7 Jan 2018  #57
It seems to me that you have problem with Christians, do you also have a bias and problems with Shia and Sunni muslims?

I am just trying to educate christin here nothing more is that wrong if i quote you guys from your own book and tell what its says

i am not against to any one at all except people who say some thing with out proof and carry on blaming any religious
Christain have done quite many good work so other religious did

now if you ask me a question i have to answer you said problems with shai or sunnis muslims

Both of them follow the 5 pillars of islam holding one book no difference
only difference about the law on few points thats all nothing serious comparing with catholics vs protestant and so many other sets
every one claim he follows the truth and deny others bible
all bible are different one group says this bible is word of God other claim no his bible is word of God and later on i find out

that only 1 and half page of bible contains Jesus words rest of unknow people for example mark luke etc no one even know their surname but believe on them no knowing if its truth or not

All i am saying is please and with all the respect to every one here that please read the book and try to find out the truth

We muslims love Jesus as much you do we never disrespect him so please dont think we are your enemies by listen some one sitting in usa and telling you what you ahve to think via media

I hope i have made a point and thanks for the this site which let me share my point of view
We worship one God and he is the one who send 4 books to mankind to show us the right path please read his last book let the book say about jesus mother merry

Have a good day

I have found some one who can help me in my project its my writing here Thanks
OP Truthfinder
7 Jan 2018  #58
Btw £200 was an idea thinking how much a polish person earn in a month how ever it was never been an issue for me to pay more to some one who could help
dolnoslask 5 | 2,462
8 Jan 2018  #59
please read the book and try to find out the truth

I have read it 2 times, and you are quite right I would also urge everyone to read the Quran, but readers must understand abrogation when reading the verses (thats why I had to read it a second time).

The Quran is not open to interpretation pick and mix of conflicting passages as in the bible.
kaprys 1 | 1,689
8 Jan 2018  #60
@Truthfinder
Yes, we earn 200 pounds a month, eat kieĊ‚basa and pierogi for every meal and keep polar bears as pets :)

Face it, the Quran has been translated to Polish. If you want a Polish Muslim with good diction you need to pay really good money.

Also, 200 pounds for an unspecified number of hours is little - in Poland, too. It's far less from the minimum wage even. And if you really want someone from Poland, are you going to fund their flight and accommodation?


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