Why do Poles come to England?

Whether you are right or not is immaterial.

jonni

Record levels of immigration have had "little or no impact" on the economic well-being of Britons, an influential House of Lords committee has said.

It says competition from immigrants has had a negative impact on the low paid and training for young UK workers, and has contributed to high house prices.

The peers want a limit on immigration levels - a view backed by the Tories.

We are delighted they say there should be an explicit target range for immigration through controls on non-EU applicants," he said.

"This is a policy that we have been arguing for, for years and which the government has consistently rejected."

Chris Huhne, the Lib Dem home affairs spokesman, said the report made clear that "the government has completely lost track of the number of people who live in this country".

"No wonder there is a total inability to manage immigration or create policies that deal with its effects."

'Motivated workers'

Ex-Tory chancellor Nigel Lawson said: "Population increases make countries bigger, but they don't make countries more prosperous.

"The increased size of the economy is neither here nor there if it doesn't bring increased prosperity. And the reason it doesn't is because there are more mouths to feed, more people there."

Massivly improved the amount of children raped on Irish soil in Irish catholic churches, Reverant K Nice commented "well take as many as we can get" its not a problem for the Irish Catholic church were always looking out for fresh young souls.

Thanks for that. I especially like the way that the real quote is "There is little or no economic benefit to Britain from the present high level of immigration." but you make it "no economic benefit".

Your original claim was that "A house of Lords study found that immigrants, in the UK, take more out of the system than they put in." Can you quote from the part which says that or shall we be forced to conclude that you've been caught lying for the third time in half an hour?

well its took a while but it has started to happen. the poles are finally getting laid off/sacked. and i could not be happier, the only problem is they will no doubt get a lot of benefits they dont deserve. but finishing these vermin is not enough as they will still clog up the health care/ housing system. but if we not only get a vote on the lisbon treaty but also to stay in europe and the people vote right, we could get rid. as i have said before we do not really need europe, the south east of england is the 7th biggest economy on its own. british tax payers pay the most per head for the least benefit unlike the polish. so if that happens ALL economic immigrants will have to leave. GOOD RIDDANCE

What are you talking about 'it took a while'? Lots of Polish people started to get laid off when the recession hit. Two of my friends got laid off in a week from tradesman jobs, that was months ago. British and Polish people have been getting laid off for months!

My two friends didn't claim any of the benefits they were entitled to, rather they tried to find jobs, moved back to Poland to work for a couple of months and came back here when the boss could take them back on recently when he had an upturn in work.

first of all, I hate the word vermin; second of all, Poles do not tend to clog housing system as much as you suggest (or shall I say - read in DM or other not-very-bright-Suns?). Most of them rent privately; it allows them to 'live in houses with lots in them' and, of course, 'bring the price down'.

Those who happen to live in council properties - work; on the contrary to many 'natives' on estates.

As for health care...There was a report about number of sickness taken in public sector only last year, and how much it cost. And I bet you, majority of them weren't Polish.


You won't. Mighty Cameron backed out of the idea. And to get Britain out of so called 'social chapter', he would need agreement of all 27 EU states.


It won't happen. And I'm staying, lol. No riddance, I'm afraid.

A French writer pitied once times when nincompoop tried to think. I can share his pain hundred years later.

And -hello to all.
I'm new. I read this forum from time to time. After reading laddy I suddenly felt an urge to register.

Welcome to the forum....from a Brit who is living in Poland...

Wow! I found this forum and registered last week and keep coming back to have a read of some of the existing posts, and like nincompoop_not after reading laddy and some of the other posts, here I am.

I am English, and proud to be so, but do not have the same problem that some my fellow countrymen (and women) seem to have with the Poles.

We have about 25 to 30 Poles working here, a number of whom have worked here for almost 4 years. In most cases they are more willing and much harder working than their English colleagues. I think that like with every nationality there are unfortunately a small minority that give everyone a bad name. However, those Poles that I have had the experience of working with are certainly not vermin, and it would be a shame if they all had to leave...not good riddance.

nincompoop_not

right.lets get this right. polish people should not qualify for any benefits or health care or housing. they do drive down house prices, packed into the rented accommodation like rats. and they certainly should not be employed if a native brit is qualified to do that job. as i have said in other post i am not totally against but it should of been controlled! but this will be resolved in the next year or so. as for the 27 states, dont you think one of the first things that will happen when the torys come to power is change every one of labours disastrous polices? that includes how we deal with europe. cameron has already hinted at a vote to stay in or depart, and with the lisbon treaty been forced down our necks it dosnt take a genius to work out how that will go. but knowing the polish they will just swarm onto the next country like the locusts they are.

for money.

I disagree,when they work and pay taxes they should be entilted to the same benefits as the rest.

laddy,
Tories are working closely with Poles and Czechs in EU parliament, they will sort things out, but not like you want to be sorted, thick bastard

Not straight away they shouldn't.

Maybe after three or four years or it should be based on NI contributions and the amount of tax paid.

The UK is not a cash-cow.

Why do Poles come to England?

You build one of these in your capital and didn't expect Poles to come????

They were drawn to the Gherkin, like moths to a flame.

In all fairness the British didnt worry about all the industrial jobs before the "Credit Crunch" when all of a sudden there wasnt enough work to go around... All the Polish i knew worked very hard and paid lots of tax and NI......

It annoys me when fellow British people insault the Polish for "taking jobs" most of the people who moan about it rarely work an spent most their time claming loads of benifts them selfs.

Many British have spent most there life living off the system, free houses free car and plenty of tax payers money and have done nothing.... given nothing to the sysem apart from there 5 kids bleading there own kind.

With out the Polsh people, Britian may be evan more in the shiettttt

A friend of mine made a mistake and called it the cucumber..:D


Ya reckon, I rather think you should learn to spell before slagging off Brits (are you sure you're British?)


We dont have "industry" as we once knew it in this country, we have a mass of under paid hospitality workers. As for not worrying, the building trade have been a wee bit miffed with immigrants (not just Poles) a long time before the recession hit hard, yet another Brit talking through his arrrrse..

I had to google to find out what the difference was :)
I really like that building though, really cool modern building.

Back on topic.
Why do Poles come to England?
I'd imagine most Poles go for work.

Most do, but I think there's a new breed that have come for different reasons (this has been said by a friend of mine who just so happens to be Polish).

I know you are not going to say tourism but I think many young Poles would like to see England, just thought I would through that in before you lay it on :)

Your generalisations are rather tired if you ask me.

Yes we have a problem with benefit culture in this country, but that is for us to sort out. Filling the country full of foreigners on the take, which many (but by no means all) are is not helping.

Not all of us. I’ve never been to Britain and have no plans to do so in the near future, Gherkin or no Gherkin; besides it looks like a giant you know what to me, perhaps if I was a woman.

Im not going to lay anything on. I was merely stating something on a Polish forum that a Polish person told me.

So what are the new breed and what are their reasons?
Lay it on me sister :) hahahaha


I made a joke, you are just pointing out how bad a joke it was.

The ones that turn up with at least two children and a pregnant wife that come for the welfare benefits.

There, I've said it !

He said it not me!

Correct me if I am wrong (as if I need to ask:) but can anyone from an E.U. state go to England and collect benefits?

Have you recently changed your law, as I know many Irish and Polish people in England, living and working and none of them collect any benifits.

Wasn't there a thing where you had to work and pay taxes for two years or something?

Relax, just massing with you. Looking at your picture please tell me that you have a problem with writing your sermon for next Sundays’ mass and not the water where you live.

12 months...but its easy to bring the clan over and claim for everything once that 12 months is done.

I am almost sure it used to be 2 years?

Well with any system some people are going to abuse it.


I took that photo years ago, when I was young and handsome :)


Well... :)