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Why do Poles come to England?


sledz 23 | 2,250  
10 Nov 2009 /  #481
ShelleyS:
Now, Id love to know how many illegal Brits there are in America in comparison to illegal Poles, I think we know who'll win that one.

Who knows? I don't know, do you?
I think that even USA authorities know, I would say that for a Brit is much easer to pass for an American.Don't you?

Probably not many, all the Brits Ive met were on vacation and not looking for jobs.

Brits dont need a Visa, only if you are planning on staying for over 3 months.

Its a bad time for anybody to find a Job
Ironside 51 | 11,339  
10 Nov 2009 /  #482
Probably not many, all the Brits Ive met were on vacation and not looking for jobs.

Probably?
?....you don't know either :)

We could assume that their number is lower then Poles but we don't know and that is that!
Slawek076 - | 81  
13 Nov 2009 /  #483
[quote=ShelleyS
I meant, there are 1,000s of Polish people doing well in Poland, if you think you are so smart and can do things better than we can in the UK, i.e. run our companies better, then why are you not living in Poland running a company? [/quote]

Maybe it is, because of the fu...d system in Poland where you have to pay for everything taxes much higher than in the UK. Try to open company in Poland and we will talk. I tried once. It was more in trouble than my company was worth. when you go through Polish ZUS, Customs, Registration Departments and City Councils, you will see how easy it is in Poland. The next thing is that many Polish are not as much rich as Brits are. Polish don't spend every penny to buy some goods they don't need. Many Polish don't have money for their bills, basic life expenses and other things including food and medications. Of course, the main guilty is our lovery Goverment that cares only about its asses. The most funniest thing is that Polish themself are not going to do anything with this mess. That's, why I'm here.

Of course, we've got 1000's of Polish doing well but many of them run businesses because of the fact that most of them is corrupted in any way and they've got enough contacts in government officess (there's always someone close from family)They just simply do not pay any penalties even if they have broken the law. It's still the war in Poland between the good and the evil.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
13 Nov 2009 /  #484
Sorrry, what was that, could you please repeat it again, only a bit clearer this time...OH I love it a bit cake!
Slawek076 - | 81  
13 Nov 2009 /  #485
Nevermind. You will never understand, even if it's spelled for you!

Except : It was more in trouble than my company was worth - it was more troubles than my company was worth. Polish themself are not going to... -brrr... Polish themselves are not going to... corrupted in any way - corrupted in many ways...

Sorry for stupid mistakes... I had couple beers lol. Nobody is perfect.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
13 Nov 2009 /  #486
I think the majority came for the money. What culture in England would really attract Poles?
laddy - | 22  
14 Nov 2009 /  #487
Seanus
that is all their came for. for the hand outs and to lower wages when are their going to get the point. frik off you scrounging tw@ts ha ha ha
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
14 Nov 2009 /  #488
Hearing England described as just a bailout option isn't nice. Some of my students have described it in that way. For the handouts? I don't know about that but for the salaries for sure.

If Poland is such a paradise then why are there not more smiling faces?
Slawek076 - | 81  
14 Nov 2009 /  #489
If Poland is such a paradise then why are there not more smiling faces?

Who said Poland is a paradise? If I could have a choice and money to go to a paradise I would definitely choose something with gold sand beaches and a lot of sun. The Bahamas or another paradise. Unfortunately, not everybody is rich with millions on bank account. So, we're just here in rainy England. In some points Poland is better, mostly it's about weather and nature. I think that England is better place to live anyway but English people could be a little more friendly. I know, it's hard time for everybody, not only for them (English).
Wroclaw Boy  
14 Nov 2009 /  #490
I think that England is better place to live anyway but English people could be a little more friendly.

Fcuk dude youve forgoten all about good old Poland havent you. Come on back for a few weeks you need a re-education son.

If I could have a choice and money to go to a paradise I would definitely choose something with gold sand beaches and a lot of sun. The Bahamas or another paradise.

Would you really? I dont think so, come on lets say you got £4 Million, where would you live and why?
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
14 Nov 2009 /  #491
A few Poles see Poland as sth of a paradise, Sławek. Many English folk are just reserved and that's just how they are. You shouldn't mistake this as some form of hostility. Go to a społem shop in Poland and you will see true hostility and stern faces. I was actually grinning away to myself at how seriously these people take themselves. They say dzień dobry to the floor half of the time. The look of contempt on their faces is awful. Sorry, Sławek, I very seldom encountered that in Scotland.

Why the word 'better'? Why not just 'different'? Poland has a lot of rain and dreary days too, Sławek. I have lived here for over 5 years and can tell you that as a fact.

Good point, WB. I bet he would say Poland.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
14 Nov 2009 /  #492
Poland has a lot of rain and dreary days too,

You forget what it was like on the islands, don't you?
There is no way there is as much dreary rainy days here then there, sorry I am not buying what you're selling ;p
Wroclaw Boy  
14 Nov 2009 /  #493
There is no way there is as much dreary rainy days here then there, sorry I am not buying what you're selling ;p

Rainy yes, dreary no. The sky is grey here much more than back home. Rainy days then sunshine or constant grey sky with no apparent reason, if its grey i want rain damn it or snow even better.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
14 Nov 2009 /  #494
I'm with WB on this one, Seanny. The sky is so often grey here and I DO see a fair bit of rain. I'm from Aberdeen which isn't in the rainshadow.

Anyway, weather isn't the main factor. Money is.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
14 Nov 2009 /  #495
The sky is grey here much more than back home.

Not where I am from, no way José.
Sure the earth gets incredible dry here, they have forest fires because of the dryness, my skin and hair feel much drier here.
And the sky is much clearer here.
Every time I am talking to people at home they say it has rained more than ever before.
Here you get the monsoon rain, belting out of the heavens for a few hours and then wham, gone as quickly as it came, lovely :)

Average annual rainfall: 600 mm

Average annual rainfall is between 800 and 1200mm in low lying areas but in mountainous areas it can exceed 2000mm.
Wroclaw Boy  
14 Nov 2009 /  #496
Sure the earth gets incredible dry here, they have forest fires because of the dryness, my skin and hair feel much drier here.

Thats the thing though we have grey skies 9/10 in winter with no rain or snow. It rains much less im not arguing that.

And the sky is much clearer here.

No its not, i guess we'll agree to disagree.

Every time I am talking to people at home they say it has rained more than ever before.

and quote the summer of 2008. Twas a rainy one.

I prefer the climate here, warmner summers colder winters.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
14 Nov 2009 /  #497
So how about all the thunderstorms over summer, Seanny? We had many here in Gliwice. It was rainy for a decent part of the month.

Sławek, what's wrong with the nature in England? They have many national parks and nice forests.

It's staggering how grey the sky is, Seanny. Maybe it has to do with living in the west of the country?
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
14 Nov 2009 /  #498
No its not, i guess we'll agree to disagree.

I get the feeling that because Ireland is out in the ocean more we are talking about slightly different things.

I prefer the climate here, warmner summers colder winters.

You bet, one of the great things, it is like living in a different country depending on what time of year it is :)

So how about all the thunderstorms over summer, Seanny?

Here you get the monsoon rain, belting out of the heavens for a few hours and then wham, gone as quickly as it came, lovely :)

We had many here in Gliwice. It was rainy for a decent part of the month.

hate that :p

It's staggering how grey the sky is, Seanny. Maybe it has to do with living in the west of the country?

maybe, it is not the same he south of Krakow as it is in Ireland, no sir.
Wroclaw Boy  
14 Nov 2009 /  #499
So how about all the thunderstorms over summer, Seanny?

Youre missing the point.

I get the feeling that because Ireland is out in the ocean more we are talking about slightly different things.

Perhaps, if Ireland has overcast skies as much as here were reverting back to the Polish/Irish similarities.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
14 Nov 2009 /  #500
if Ireland has overcast skies as much as here

It is by far much more over cast in Ireland (especially the west coast) than Krakow Zakopane area.

The weather in the west where youz are is hardly that different to here?
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
14 Nov 2009 /  #501
Ach, the point is that I see grey skies quite often with my own eyes. It is warmer than Britain but not consistently. Britain has experienced heatwaves on and off for a few years now.

It is not as overcast as Aberdeen, no, but not as strikingly different as Sławek may paint it. As WB said, he could use a reminder.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
14 Nov 2009 /  #502
Ach, the point is that I see grey skies quite often with my own eyes.

Wash your windows you dirty fecker!!!
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
14 Nov 2009 /  #503
Hehehe, the rain does that for me Seanny ;) ;) It's the Scottish way :)

I want to see the answers of Poles here. They leave their families, give up the food they love dearly for what they see as substandard stuff and go to a non-Catholic country. What on earth made them do that? Quite a sacrifice and for what?
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
14 Nov 2009 /  #504
So what has you here to begin with Seanus?
Wroclaw Boy  
14 Nov 2009 /  #505
The weather in the west where youz are is hardly that different to here?

I would have thought that the weather in East Ireland to be not that indifferent to that of the Southern UK either, but still i witness many more grey days here than home. As i mentioned before if its grey i want rain, i actually love the rain unless im playing golf in it. Perhaps memory distortions and dreams of distant lands are coming into play but i still claim Poland is much more grey in the winter than southern UK. Its like a constant grey blanket for five months with the occasional shine through.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
14 Nov 2009 /  #506
Honestly, curiosity and a solid base. I have seen many European countries now due to the base that Gliwice provides. Also, I have learned a new language, an interesting culture and met my wife here. My teaching has become more diverse too.
Wroclaw Boy  
14 Nov 2009 /  #507
10/10 for a totally unrelated post, you met your wife here? please do tell.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
14 Nov 2009 /  #508
WB, it's just the reverse of the thread and Seanny asked me about it, no doubt trying to lure me into the answer that I came for the money.

I met my wife on the rynek in Gliwice and got talking to her more and more. She also went to England for a while and guess what? She went for the money too. She has no love for many English people and the same rings true for many Poles. She came back to build on our relationship. I didn't know her that well when she left but absence makes the heart grow fonder.
Slawek076 - | 81  
15 Nov 2009 /  #509
Would you really? I dont think so, come on lets say you got £4 Million, where would you live and why?

No way! When I've got $4million there's no way I would spend this money to invest in Poland where in couple years our Polish friends from Customs could rip me off...I'm not gonna support Polish goverment for doing nothing. No Thanks. There are much better places than Poland and England and there's nothing to do with visiting my family. There's always some way to visit your family especially when you're rich.
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
15 Nov 2009 /  #510
Why have you chosen to stay in England, Sławek? Only for developing your English?

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