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ARE POLES ROMANTICS??


rychlik 41 | 373  
22 Dec 2009 /  #1
Hello Everyone,

I live in Toronto and have had the "pleasure" of getting to know two Germans (male and female) and a Swede (female). They are studying here but going back to their countries after the New Year. Anyways after hanging out with them on a few occasions I've learned that they are your stereotypically liberal thinking Western Europeans- mostly after casual sexual relationships and anti-family. Being raised Polish in Canada, I feel like I've had a greater sense of family values instilled in me- and I am proud of that. Also the two Germans and Swede do not seem to identify with Christianity (this does not surprise me). The German guy said that Germans do not really date. I found this hard to understand.

Some of the Poles I've known in Canada seem to to much more pro family and not so cold. So I would like to know if Poles in Poland are still the pro-family, romantic types? I would think for the most part they are. But I'm not joking when I say this- after meeting the Germans and Swede, I am not attracted to these kinds of cultures and people, if this is the norm that is. But I have read that the Germans are cold like this :)
BrutalButcher - | 391  
22 Dec 2009 /  #2
rychlik

I am a friend of stereotypes, to be honest , and you're right. I live in Germany and I can't assure you that Germans are cold and calculating when it comes to relationships. If they're on vacation, they will just go for one-night stands and casual sex. In here, the dating process is kind of weird. Germans are not romantic people. Other Europeans have told me that you may give a German girl a flower and she'd pretend that she didn't get it and if she did get it, she will not make a big deal out of it. I think Slavs in general are much more sensitive and warm-hearted than Germans, probably that's why they're my favourite Europeans.

If you're considering to date a German/Swedish girl, my advice is : be prepared. Those women tend to behave more manly than a man does.

As to whether Poles are romantic and family-oriented, I'd have to say that the ones I have known are.
Nathan 18 | 1,363  
22 Dec 2009 /  #3
I think that Swedes and Germans took it a step further. They realize immediately what is following our romanticism - brutal reality. So why waste time on ceremonies and eyelashes, when they can start with the business. Our mentality - Eastern European - is such that we take our time, pace things slowly, invest heavily in abstract ideas. The other cultures, in my opinion, are more practical. You don't have so much broken hearts drowned in a bottle like our countries do. Which way is better? It depends on your personality. Personally, I prefer romanticism in your sense of the word. But it seems like younger generations choose more "progressive" approach.
TheOther 6 | 3,818  
23 Dec 2009 /  #4
I can't assure you that Germans are cold and calculating when it comes to relationships

Good that you "can't" (see quote above...) assure that, because it is simply not true. Germans are just a little bit faster and uncomplicated when it comes to relationships/ sex, that's all. I've been together with a few German girls in my life and none of them has been cold as you imply. I guess you haven't had a German girl yet... :)
scrappleton - | 830  
23 Dec 2009 /  #5
few German girls in my life and none of them has been cold as you imply.

Nahh, surprisingly sweet natured women. Good fraus (frauen?) if you can hook one.

Again, assanine Hollywood can be thanked for these stupid perceptions.
TheOther 6 | 3,818  
23 Dec 2009 /  #6
for these stupid perceptions

Agreed, and it's interesting to see that these negative perceptions are still alive amongst the younger generations.
BrutalButcher - | 391  
23 Dec 2009 /  #7
I guess you haven't had a German girl yet... :)

And I wont either.
TheOther 6 | 3,818  
23 Dec 2009 /  #8
And I wont either

Okay, have a German man then... :)
scrappleton - | 830  
23 Dec 2009 /  #9
these negative perceptions are still alive amongst the younger generations.

I know.. they haven't traveled is why. It's sad and relatively dangerous to not know other cultures, etc. The European criticisim here is usually justified.
BrutalButcher - | 391  
23 Dec 2009 /  #10
Okay, have a German man then... :)

Neither. No German "love" for me :D

I am sorry, but I don't think Germans pay much attention to feelings. The German folk have decided to downplay their emotional side after 2 lost wars and the horrors of a genocide that will forever stain their history.

They weren't like that all the time, though. I read writings by SChiller and Goethe and I realize that Germans used to be sensitive...but hey, history changes people.
TheOther 6 | 3,818  
23 Dec 2009 /  #11
they haven't traveled is why

Yep. But you'll find these stupid prejudices amongst Europeans, who travel a whole lot more abroad than Americans, as well. IMHO, it's all a question of how the kids are brought up. If their parents were racist suckers, the children are usually, too.

I don't think Germans pay much attention to feelings

I guarantee you that your perception is wrong. Don't know if it's a personal "taboo" for you as a Jew to date a German girl, but if not I would at least give it a try. You will be pleasantly surprised.
BrutalButcher - | 391  
23 Dec 2009 /  #12
TheOther

I am sorry. I am not into:
-Blonde girls
-Cold girls
-Unpatriotic girls
-Girls who are into Arabs and turks
-Girls who are into Scat.
beckski 12 | 1,617  
23 Dec 2009 /  #13
ARE POLES ROMANTICS??

Does a bear $hit in the woods? My answer is hell yeah; especially the female gender.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702  
23 Dec 2009 /  #14
Anyways after hanging out with them on a few occasions I've learned that they are your stereotypically liberal thinking Western Europeans- mostly after casual sexual relationships and anti-family.

Yawn! They were students in a foreign country FFS - they were not thinking about marriage and kids!

I know.. they haven't traveled is why. It's sad and relatively dangerous to not know other cultures, etc. The European criticisim here is usually justified.

Scrappy, it has nothing to do with Europeans, the person that started this thread was born in Canada - most people I know dont make generalisations about the relationships and sexual behaviour of Germans and Swedes or the French or the Spanish...Why? Because most people really couldnt give a $hit thats why, unless its parked on my drive, its not my concern...
markcooper 4 | 80  
23 Dec 2009 /  #15
scrappleton:
they haven't traveled is why

They have tried travelling on mass, two times in recent history. Both times firmly put back into thier place.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,363  
23 Dec 2009 /  #16
Agreed, and it's interesting to see that these negative perceptions are still alive amongst the younger generations.

Well...so are polish jokes...
Some things never die! ;)

I guarantee you that your perception is wrong.

It's a stupid "fail" you are talking with, what do you expect!

They weren't like that all the time, though. I read writings by SChiller and Goethe and I realize that Germans used to be sensitive...but hey, history changes people

Well...it might be that you are the problem...
I can believe the only reaction you get from german girls are either repulsed looks or eye rolls - no wonder you think they are cold! But they just have their standards...

Germans can be quite passionate once our right buttons are pushed...you should know that!
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,444  
23 Dec 2009 /  #17
So I would like to know if Poles in Poland are still the pro-family, romantic types? I would think for the most part they are. But I'm not joking when I say this- after meeting the Germans and Swede, I am not attracted to these kinds of cultures and people, if this is the norm that is. But I have read that the Germans are cold like this :)

Poles are more family oriented and have very strong family values. So you might be onto something.
However, it seems that you were trying to ask them some very serious question eg. religion, commitment and you happened to find out that your views are very different from theirs. I guess it is OK to be friends with people, who have different upbringing, values that are not congruent with yours. It would be for me.

If I was looking for a partner, then I would be looking foe somebody with similar values- so were you hanging out with them, or were you interested in one of the women. Perhaps the German one????

unless its parked on my drive, its not my concern...

maybe it was parked in his driveway?
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,363  
23 Dec 2009 /  #18
Perhaps the German one????

Sure...there is a nice english expression for such a behavior: "Sour grapes" I believe!
Then of course the object of the desire isn't "worth it" anymore, has "bad taste" or is "cold" or anything else....;)
Nathan 18 | 1,363  
23 Dec 2009 /  #19
Germans can be quite passionate once our right buttons are pushed...you should know that!

Yes, but where can he get a manual? ;) Could you at least leave love without buttons? ;)
OP rychlik 41 | 373  
23 Dec 2009 /  #21
so were you hanging out with them, or were you interested in one of the women.

Not interested in any of them. I am just judgmental and base my opinions on the experiences I've had with people for an extended period of time. What I was doing was comparing my mentality/beliefs to theirs. And funny enough they turned out to be these stereotypically Euro people who think Canada is too conservative :)

Look- it's not secret that a lot of women in Scandinavian/Western nations have turned their backs on family, etc. You know, the whole "liberated" women BS. Hence the question- are Poles still romantics at heart?
BrutalButcher - | 391  
23 Dec 2009 /  #22
are Poles still romantics at heart?

You should ask "are MOST of Poles romantic at heart?"...

I will take a guess and say that they are more conservative and family-oriented than Western Europeans.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,363  
23 Dec 2009 /  #23
rychlik

You talk crap, stereotypes grow over a long time and "liberation BS" has nothing to do with it.
And if, then polish women will develop the same way once the catholic church loses their grip...
nomaderol 5 | 726  
23 Dec 2009 /  #24
Romantism is belittled by young generations who are with little sex experience, but consider themselves much experienced ones.. from time to time, i have had conversations with different people having different life paths. among them, there are some prostitues, of whom some of them are working at brotels. i never been with them, but, just conversations.. these very experienced women are usually actually very romantics. so, romantism appears in two kinds of people: teenage girls who aren't experienced and women who are very experienced. Poles? i don't know. know of only one who is very silent, seem to be romantic. or, am i?
Arien 3 | 721  
23 Dec 2009 /  #25
Hello Everyone,

Hello.

I live in Toronto and have had the "pleasure" of getting to know two Germans (male and female) and a Swede (female).

Well, you don't have to socialize with people you dislike?

Anyways after hanging out with them on a few occasions I've learned that they are your stereotypically liberal thinking Western Europeans- mostly after casual sexual relationships and anti-family.

Listen, casual dating doesn't make you anti-family all of a sudden. It does make you a sexually active person. Seriously, people have always been like that, and there's not much wrong with that, unless you keep telling yourself everything is wrong with that.

It's nature way, because some women can't get pregnant, and for other women it takes quite a few times before they get pregnant aswell. Oh, and ofcourse some guys are infertile too.

Being raised Polish in Canada, I feel like I've had a greater sense of family values instilled in me- and I am proud of that.

How do you know you have a greater sense of family values instilled in you? Do you honestly believes you're a better father than someone else simply because you have a certain religion? Do you think you're a better father because you have little to no experience with different women? What if she will cheat on you? Will you forgive her? Divorce? Or kill her?

If you have more experience with dating and relationships, you'll get in touch with your human nature yourself, and it won't be as much as a shock to you if, or when you find out about such things. You should keep in mind no one's perfect, and that about 60% of all the men and women cheat sometimes. And yes, this includes Christians.

Also the two Germans and Swede do not seem to identify with Christianity (this does not surprise me).

Why should they? Oh, and I've got news for you, there are a lot of people who don't really identify with Christianity anymore, but ofcourse a lot of people still pretend like they do in certain regions and communities.

The German guy said that Germans do not really date. I found this hard to understand.

Me too, because they obviously do date. I've had a holiday romance with a German girl in Lloret de Marr once, and we got along really well in those three weeks. Ofcourse I've lost all contact with her, but hey, I get to keep the memories!

Some of the Poles I've known in Canada seem to to much more pro family and not so cold.

I've met a few Polish women who were married, and they wanted to come home with me, and I kept asking them about that ring they were wearing. You know what they did? They smiled, and shrugged their shoulders! They didn't care about their marriage. I didn't touch them. (Some of them don't wear their ring, and they won't tell you, so you can't blame me when that happens!) I believe that if you're married you've made a choice and a promise to someone else, and someone else trusts you with that promise, so you shouldn't do those things anymore, unless the two of you are having what they call an open relationship, or an open marriage.

So I would like to know if Poles in Poland are still the pro-family, romantic types? I would think for the most part they are. But I'm not joking when I say this- after meeting the Germans and Swede, I am not attracted to these kinds of cultures and people, if this is the norm that is. But I have read that the Germans are cold like this :)

You've read wrong. People aren't cold because they date. I know a woman who lives just a few houses away. She had five marriages, and now she says she treasures her children, and enjoys her life. Is it her fault these guys ran off? Is she better off than someone who dates casually?

Rychlik, morals and sex are two different things, and having sex doesn't make you a cold person. Sex and romance often go hand in hand, but true love is so much different, and so much deeper if the feeling's mutual.

I know it would treasure it if I ever found it with someone, but for as long as I'm single, I'm just going to be brutally honest with everyone. I'm a young man, and I can see there are a lot of beautiful women out there. I'm not making anyone pregnant, I'm not running away for my responsibilities, and I'm not pretending anymore, like so many others still are. Do whatever makes you happy, but please don't try to tell me that someone is a cold person, or morally wrong, simply because he or she dates.

You can find true love after many dates, and you can find true love as a virgin, but it all depends on who you find. You can be a good mother when you really feel you're ready to be one, and you can be a good father when you really feel you're ready to be one. (It's just the simple truth!)

I won't lie, a broken heart isn't funny, and a broken heart can really hurt you sometimes, but it usually starts with what you're telling yourself. The more you expect from people around you, the harder people will let you down. The more you believe in fairytales, the uglier reality becomes. Just be you, and let someone else be the same. I respect your vieuws, and I won't tell you to see things my way, but I won't respect your lies about Germans and Swedish people. You say they're cold people, but the truth is that you don't know all of these people personally.

:)
southern 75 | 7,096  
23 Dec 2009 /  #26
I've met a few Polish women who were married, and they wanted to come home with me,

Polish women?Strange.

they wanted to come home with me, and I kept asking them about that ring they were wearing.

Typical Dutch.
Arien 3 | 721  
23 Dec 2009 /  #27
Polish women?Strange.

Yeah, isn't it weird?

Typical Dutch.

Not really, no. I know plenty of people who simply wouldn't care about such things.

;)
southern 75 | 7,096  
23 Dec 2009 /  #28
Yes,polish married women need some refresh from time to time.
BrutalButcher - | 391  
23 Dec 2009 /  #29
I've met a few Polish women who were married, and they wanted to come home with me

You've read wrong. People aren't cold because they date. I know a woman who lives just a few houses away.

You are the one who read wrong. He didn't say that people who date are against family.

Are you Moroccan?

And he was talkinga bout Poles iN Canada :D there must be a differnece!
Arien 3 | 721  
23 Dec 2009 /  #30
You are the one who read wrong. He didn't say that people who date are against family.

Oh really?

I've learned that they are your stereotypically liberal thinking Western Europeans- mostly after casual sexual relationships and anti-family.

I know how some Christians tend to go around the bush like that, but ofcourse here you can see for yourself how he mentions liberal thinking, and even though liberal thinking doesn't have anything to do with sexual activity whatsoever, he manages to attach this way of thinking to having casual sexual relationships anyway, idiotically connecting a word like anti-family to this sentence. Preposterous really.

Do you need glasses?

Are you Moroccan?

Do I look like a Moroccan? (Yup, I'm 100% sure you need glasses!)

:)

Yes,polish married women need some refresh from time to time.

I actually wouldn't have any problems with that, if only I knew they were completely honest about it to their own partners. Such women should either tell their husbands that they're wild things who really feel the need to swing from time to time, or tell them how they wished they were single again. A lot of men cheat aswell, and I'm just wondering why so many people still lie about such things in this day and age.

We've had sexual liberation you know.. I'm just saying that it's better to be brutally honest about yourself and your feelings before you get into a serious relationship with someone, than to be brutally honest about yourself and your feelings after you've made eachother a promise.

I do realize this way of thinking would be too much to take for most people, but it would definitely be a more honest approach.

:)

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