Poland's Future Includes Fewer Poles, More Foreigners

Id like to jump right in and say hello to Globalisation and the EU. Whats the problem Dupek? Name a country thats not the same as it was 10-15 years ago.

In some german cities they have taken over whole boroughs (Berlin-Neukölln for example), it was rather played down and ignored for far to long...

It's never people from other EU countries (not even not-EU european countries), it's either Arabs or Turks only!

Yeh but you fcukers actually deserve it

yes, it's very dangerous, bullets aren't rhetoric.

And why???

Guess he doesn't like Germans. But his attitude shows he doesn't like many people.

He is stil miffed about his "conquered loo" I guess...:):):)

Bratwurst... watch what you say.

Ja...okay...it's "still" not "stil"....these darn typos! :(

Poles, Germans, Russians and ALL white, Christian countries should be allies in the face of alien immigration. The petty conflicts of European nations are no longer important in the face of the colored Horde that is invading the West.

Unless this so-called coloured horde pick up on local customs such as not liking whichever neighbours it's traditional not to like. Some of this so-called coloured horde is not a new thing and have even been around for fifty, sixty, a hundred years.

Where does a white Muslim or a black Christian fit into this picture? Or what about someone whose heritage is both black and white? Or what about people who some call black, some call white and others call something else entirely?

I must plead some level of ignorance here – is Turkey any closer now to EU accession?

This is a fact of human existence. Different groups (religious, racial etc.) come into conflict when they occupy the same space. They compete for power and resources. This is not, contrary to your glib assumption, unique to Europe.

In Iraq, Sunni, Shia, and Kurd compete. In Africa Tutsi and Hutu slaughter each other with machetes. In South America the European elite is right-wing and the indigenous people embrace socialism and Communism. They struggle against each other. Tibetans and Chinese oppose each other in the East.

Welcome to reality.

In Europe there are serious gulfs between the native, indigenous people and many Islamic immigrants. The more homogeneous a country, the less fighting there is. Look at Japan, Finland, and, until recently, Norway, Sweden, and Denmark. All homogeneous nations with almost ZERO crime. When was the last time any of these countries had a civil war, or any serious internal conflict?

The more racial, religious, and linguistic differences there are in a country the more potential there is for conflict. That's why Europe doesn't need Africans, Chinese, Indians, etc. Europe is already populated. It already has a culture.

This house is occupied. Sorry.

Przemas, as I understand it, Germany is firmly against Turkish membership, and Sarkozy in France seems to be more open to Turkey, but still negative. Only the United States is aggressively pushing for Turkish membership in the EU. Europeans don't want it.

Funny about the US government backing Turkey's bid to join the EU...the last time I checked a map the United States was NOT a part of Europe. Let's hope the Europeans have the guts to tell the US government to "[censored] off."

You’re a good man Gary.

I guess another inquiry I would have is why the United States of America are so keen on Turkish integration into Europe?

I am trying to understand that angle.

They should implement a law in Germany, France or the UK where if you commit 3 crimes or more (ex. troubled Muslim youth rioting) of any sort and you're a FOREIGNER whose been in that country for 10 years or less, then you are deported out of that country. No more chances to f**k up. Deportation should be automatic depending on the severity of the crime (murder, beheading or act of terror). There should also be a limit to how many Mosques can be built in majour cities. I have faith in Poland that they won't lose their culture any time soon. But the stupid liberal western European countries have to open their eyes. I never want to see burkas in Warsaw or Krakow.

You are asking a great question here, and unfortunately I am not knowledgeable enough to give you a simple answer. It is clear that the US is pushing for Turkish membership, or at least it is doing so officially. It is harder to say why, considering that Europe's needs should far outweigh Turkey's.

Turkey has close relationships with the US and Israel, in military and commercial terms. Oil pipelines from the Caspian region are being built through Turkey to bypass Russia, and this is related to the war going on now between Georgia (a US client) and Russia. These pipelines benefit Israel, Turkey, and the US strategically at the expense of Russia.

To put it as best I can, Turkey is very close to the US and Israel commercially and strategically, and the US is rewarding Turkey's cooperation by backing their bid to join the EU.


Absolutely right, Rychlik!

Thanks for the support Gary.
What happened to your acting acting career?

LOL! It went downhill, Rychlik. Domestic troubles, arrest warrants...Now I'm devoting my time to supporting Pan-European Nationalism on PolishForums.com.

But thanks for the recognition, my friend! : )

Most people benefit from globalisation, but please let the foreigners out. How stupid can people be!

I am sure you have an idea how stupid people can be.

Black everywhere.

Firstly please define "globalisation" as it pertains to immigration.
Then could you please provide some evidence of this claim?

When people have to move in order to make just a little more and still live near the poverty line then i question the benefits. So many people are saying "hey there's a problem here." Maybe they don't have all the facts but i wouldn't be so quick to label people "stupid" for noticing a connection between a rise in 3rd world immigration and rises in crime or dischord within european borders.

I'm not saying western wealth and 3rd world poverty are not interconnected but i can't fault the average european for not being overly welcoming in an already very full house.

Correction .. Globalization – what is it firstly? It could be conceived as a process (or rather a set of) that set about changes occurring across many areas of society from the social to the political to the economic structure of all regions and continents. Over the years globalization of the economy and the growing pace of worldwide web has changed the face society. It is often thought of as a widening and intensifying growing impact of inter-connectness stretching worldwide. But in conceiving globalization this way you are able to map empirically patterns forming in ways of links and relations across humanity from the military to the cultural.

(the above taken from my own 1500 word essay on the subject of globalization)

those that stand to benefits are those country that give their own agenda on the world like USA .... Asia countries like Japan and Western European countries

There will always be those that gain and those that dont caused by globalization, immigration contributes to globalization in different ways as quoted by Sassen and Brah et al ....

Globalization is about global distribution of poverty.

did i not use quotation marks love?

Regarding your definition:

sorry but that's a bunch of words that says very little in regards to what globalization is in terms of immigration.

that being said let's look at how we can improve your essay:


is this a word (if it is my bad by i presumed it is inter-connectedness)?


...
it is a process or it could be conceived as one? it just as easily couldn't be for that matter. you really can't stick a quantifiable definition hinged with the word "could."

why does your definition allow one to "map patterns," why not just say it's an increase in hegemony or sameness and be done with it?

Oh, come on F4, she just quoted the essay for info , not for correction;)

Would everyone like to go back in the past? Let me tell you something about the past. British Empire has been supported by a global British seapower. When British warships explored the world in th 17th century (of course later than other European countries) lots of people in Africa didn't know what poverty was. When imperialism started in 19th century globalisation had another face. Slavery and exploitation were two sides of one coin. British history is full of that stuff, similar to other European countries. If you foreigner 4 and all the others talk about poverty and full houses here, I can only laugh. I correct my statement a little bit:

There has never been a time so many people can benefit from globalisation. It is only possible because we have peaceful times apart from a few exceptions. So don't tell us stories here!

you mean UFO? So it is true then.

you're right. I was being a *****.

GodandBrown, what's with the strawman approach- that's disingenuous.


Poverty:
Where was i talking about poverty and in what context? Are you denying that many immigrants, legal or not, live near the poverty line in their new "homes?" A "yes" or "no" will suffice.

Full House:
Europe is the second most densly populated continent (1st if you only include e.u. countries) on the planet. Are you denying this? A "yes" or "no" will suffice.


Who's tellling stories (if you like i can offer you one)? Why would you be so ready to disregard what others are saying they are seeing?

I never said nobody is benefitting but we can discuss who is benefitting, who isn't and who's footing the bill after you define what you mean by globalization as it directly relates to immigration.

precisely ... some people just like being on high horses ...

nevermind ;)