Poland's Future Includes Fewer Poles, More Foreigners

Judaism is a religion, not a nationality - there is no such thing as a historical Jewish nation.


Most modern day Israelis are of Russian descent, no?

You really mean life is wishy-washy?

Are they? And Im not talking about modern day Jews.


Really? I think most Jews will dissagree with you on that one.


No

The Jews are living in several errors, about the world, about deities, about themself. Nevertheless Judaism is a religion.

If living in Russia as a Jew to Jewish parents, to Jewish grandparents makes you a Russian, then possibly. Many people don't see it as being a problem having more than one nationality at the same time, However, Jewish history has involved a lot of people moving around, so how many Israelis are Roman, Spanish, English, Dutch, German, Polish and Russian all at the same time?

Is a way of life and more than just a Religion...that is how it has survived for so long.

So?


Well, if you are born in Russia then you can choose to be a Russian citizen I suppose


Don't know. How many?

I would have answered sooner, but I've been trying to find out how long a piece of string is. I still don't know, but this thread is eight pages long.

I am sure that you are aware of British history and colonialism....if so then you MUST understand why I am in England....born and bred may I add....

How to survive? How to repress women, how to go for the domination of world by being tricky against all other people, how to get corrupted by German SS and so on.

We Anarchists do not like that way of life.

In Germany the Jews are organized in the "Zentralrat der Juden in Deutschland". Barely nobody knows it, but the first "Zentralrat der Juden" was founded by Himmlers SS and was the only allowed organisation of the Jews in Nazi-Germany. The "Zentralrat" was supposed to support the deportations of the Jews to the KZ as Auschwitz, and the "Zentralrat" has done this job very well: Without this support the SS would not have been able to run the "Endlösung" so perfectly while Germany had to fight against soldiers of other countries at all frontlines.

During the Eichmann-proceeding there were loud protests of Jews while Jews of the old "Zentralrat" gave their statements against Eichmann.

And today? The German Jews are corrupted from head to feet and do everything what the German SS-Satanists do want. Ignaz Bubis saw that clear months before he had to die. That was the reason that he wanted to be buried in Israel.

You know something Warsaw8, we all have an opinion about things and if you hate people like me, so be it, I can’t change that. I respect your views although I don’t agree with them and it doesn’t seem like they are going to change any day soon.

I really don’t have space in my head to hate and despise a group of people……anyway happy forum posting!

@ Equator: I had to search for an entry of Warsaw8 and for the reason for him to hate You.

Equator, black is a beautiful colour, and You should know why Warszaw8 only means that he would hate You: Because he is frustrated about the circumstances of his own life. Have You ever seen the movie "The deviant ones"?

Equator, if Warszaw8 would meet a coloured woman that would fall in love with him and that would know how to do to him - he would love her more than any other people in this world with the exception of himself: He would love her as he would love himself!

Equator, there is no chance for true peace in this world as long as there is only one human being frustrated. We Anarchists are fighting for the sake of all people because there is no chance to fight for the sake of some people only. Don't You want to be an Anarchist, too, Equator? We Anarchists don't look at the colour of human beings, we look only into their hearts!

Never really thought about being an Anarchist……..

Anarchy is the nature of mankind, Equator. There is no leader in natural societies, the societies are ruled by love to one another! In natural societies no one has to think about his own advantage - he gives his best for the community, and the community gives him really all he needs to live happily!

If there is any problem - all members of the community talk about that, everyone has to same right to give his arguments. And the last word lies in the hands of the women - in natural societies are living wonderful women, You can say divine women: They are feeling for all and thinking for all, as really good mothers do for their families.

Such a wonderful woman lives deep in every woman - and it is possible to awake her!

Women in natural societies are highly respected, no man would dare to do anything that could hurt them!

Equator, the mankind needs such women, as many as possible! We male Anarchists want to lay down the world to their feet!

Winfried Sobottka, a speaker of German Anachists in Austria and in FRG

To warszaw8:

It has been a white Polish Pope who told the African people that it would be a sin against God to use means of birth control. That costed millions of Africans the death by starvation up to now.

It has been white Germans who had terrified Poland over years in a really diabolical way, killing millions of Poles, torturing Poles, robbing them their children and putting them in most evil kind of slavery.

It has been white Russians who had killed thousands of Poles and marauded Poland over decades.

It is crazy white Germans who are lieing Poles and who are giving their best to lead Poland in slavery by others means.

Warszaw8, Equator has never done anything wrong to You. You should tell her that You don't hate her and that You didn't want to hurt You, that is the way a true man would go in this situation.

Sorry, it was too late to correct it by using edit:

Warszaw8, Equator has never done anything wrong to You. You should tell her that You don't hate her and that You didn't want to hurt her, that is the way a true man would go in this situation.

Sobottka…..Warsaw8 never said that he hated 'me' - however as he seems to hate all people of colour of which I am one, obviously I am included in the equation. My comments to him were meant as a general statement.

If someone hates me because I am black, really I don't give a damn, why should I? I am certainly not going to get angry, to do that would demonstrate that a nerve had been hit...no chance of that happening!

Catch you soon…I’m off……

Dear Equator, if You wouldn't mind please call me Winfried. You are wrong to say it wouldn't heart You if anyone would defame You because of Your colour - of course it hits a nerve if someone defames You even it is without true reason. And it is wrong do ignore it if other people do wrong, they have to be edutcated by telling them what they have done wrong and by telling them what it means in the result.

The errors of Warszaw8 will give him no sake, he would go better to give them up and to search for the real reasons for the problems in his life so that he can find solutions. It is true that my words to him will move him to think and he will recognize that I don't want to do him wrong, but that my words are to his advantage as they are to Yours: He will feel better if he follows them and he has not to be ashamed to follow them: It isn't a disgrace to beg for pardon, if You have done wrong, it is a disgrace if You do it not if You have done wrong. If Warszaw8 should be really a Pole, and I think so, then he will think about my words and will recognize that his problems have nothing to do with coloured people and then he will, so I hope, recognize that You, Equator, are a woman without evil intentions, a woman as any other woman without evil intentions. A woman with feelings as any other woman, as his sister, if there is one, as his mother, as his grandmothers. No one has the right to depreciate any other one without any reason. If a Pole depriciates coloured people he does the same as SS does by calling Poles subhuman beings.

One of the definition of Religion is that it is a way of life.

He's a nutter.


For a none Jew it is hard to understand about "jewishness" lets leave it at that, shall we.

Jesus himself was just a Jew, leading a group of followers. He never started a new religion - that was done by his followers after his death. Christianity started as a heretical group of Jews. Non-Jews were accepted later. (Boy was that a mistake!)

And for those who want to know - Jews are both a nation and a religion. We are a nation that has its own religion. People can join the nation by accepting the religion. (That has nothing to do with Israeli citizenship, which has different rules).

Go Jews !! Jew Power !

Are you a Jew?


Ok

Sorry it's taken me so long to get back, but i've had things to do. Anyway, while i'm not disputing your information, you gotta admit Reader's Digest isn't really a definitive source, nor is it impartial. It's just one publication.


You'll get no argument from me on what you've seen in documentaries but again you've failed to take into account the scope of what I am questioning here. Large scale immigration isn't only from India and China, it's from Nigeria, from Vietnam, from Somalia, Congo, Romania, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Iraq and from Poland. What did your documentary say about students from all of those countries? And before you answer I'm well aware of the high standards of Polish students so gimme what your documentary stated about the other countries.


You're being ironic right?

If anything that would be a strong case of indigenous workers losing out in favour of immigrant labour. Yes it is a better performing team, I'm not arguing against that (and for the record i couldn't give a rat's about footballers) but the discussion had been centered on the wheres and whys of dissatisfaction in host countries. So now France has a bunch of unemployed indigenous footballers with no market to use their skills and at present are on public assistance. How does that benefit the host nation again?


I suggest you think about it a little more but from a different perspective.

You seem to be suggesting that immigration of the kind we'd been discussing doesn't bring any negatives along with it. Yet so many people seem to be suggesting there are negative effects, I guess they're just wrong or haven't seen your documentaries or read that article you did.

Let's see the comparison between how much only immigrants from 3rd world and developing economies bring into a given country in terms of the economy (filling labour shortages, increasing the local standard of living, helping to improve the infrastructure, contributions to education, science and technology) vs. the costs they bring with public assistance, legal issues, displacing local workers (more public assistance) plus language and skills training. So you might have a point but my hunch is that you don't.


That's your opinion and I can't really agree or disagree unless i know what you're basing it on. Maybe in the long run they can't but don't tell them that.

ShelleyS you know what I think that I am going to cut this one short and refrain from commenting on this thread, as it is getting a bit out of hand, as I have no beef with Warsaw8 or anyone for that matter. I think that I will steer clear of getting into something with Sobottka which is so unnecessary.

I really don’t care who hates who, as people will hate each other for a variety of reasons. As for Sobottka being a nutter, well….I will reserve judgement on that one…

We all have our opinions and my point is, cool that’s each individual’s prerogative.

Please pay attention my Jewish friend, You will be riding the warsaw8, shortly :)

Im not Jewish - my GG Grand father was :) But I know a little about it - I don't get in to arguments with antisemetic fools either.


What I was trying to say.


Apologies, my mistake.

I knew that ;)

I dont see how, it's not something I band about the forum - and i don't get in to arguments on the "Jews are taking over the world" threads either!

Yep, UK is always seen as an easy game, as even Your Great Grandfather decided to immigrate over there from israel. I think English people should have started cracking down on these people since the time of the dinosaurs :D

Not quite - he wasn't israeli - it's all a bit complicated and he was born in the UK.


In byegone years it was seen as an opportunity for people to make an honest living - for the vast amount of immigrants that moved here - recent immigrantion (past 20 years) has seen more undesireables enter the UK both legally and illegally.


We're a very liberal country and took people on face value, very very silly indeed.

A Strange Kind of Jew :D


So it was an opportunity when Your G Grandfather entered UK from middle east, but now its undesirable since You're a british already :D