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Poland: the most attractive European country for future investors

Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
9 Jun 2008 /  #1

, "Poland should take advantage of the fact that it is perceived as the most attractive investment location in Europe with regard to advancing the necessary reforms and radically improving the state of our technical infrastructure and the infrastructure of knowledge. This way, within the next few years, we will be able to maintain the leading position and attract more and more technologically advanced investments."

The report "European Attractiveness Survey 2008", published by Ernst & Young, shows that foreign investors are keen to include Poland in their investment plans. Furthermore, Poland ranks as the second largest country in Europe with regard to creating new workplaces, and takes seventh place in terms of investment projects in Europe.

in the ranking of preferred investment locations we came out first in Europe, ahead of Germany, Russia, France and Romania.

First in Europe, but we are losting in world. Europe is weak and there is to much bureaucracy.
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
9 Jun 2008 /  #2
Yeah, but isn't it the case that foreigners steal in and milk the profits, leaving the Poles to do all the donkey work? That's what I've heard.
OP Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
9 Jun 2008 /  #3
yes seanus I have noticed that you spend all days here proving that Poles buy in Tescos and that brits are winers in globalisation.

I don't care for me you can be the winner. ...

I have seen Poland 20 years ago ... there is postive change :) so we are winner too :)

maybe it is win-win situation.
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
9 Jun 2008 /  #4
What r u talking about? Brits are winners in globalisation? I was merely raising the point made by PolskiŻolnierz when he got angry that foreigners creamed the profits, leaving educated Poles to fight for the scraps.

I hardly see that as fair but that's life. U feelin me now?
OP Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
9 Jun 2008 /  #5
Maybe we are naive :)

In Poland we like foreign investors. It is good business for Poland :)
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
9 Jun 2008 /  #6
Or have learned to live on less, which is no bad thing. There is still materialism here though, it's the instinct of some to be so. Those who look for fast cash will get their come-uppance tho.

Foreign investment is welcome here. U look at cities that have attracted mass investment from outwith and see how beautiful they are. Kuala Lumpur and Shanghai are 2 such examples. Warsaw is a bit late for that but it will benefit in other ways.
OP Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
9 Jun 2008 /  #7

The following foreign companies placed
their research and development centres in Poland:

ABB Kraków
ADB Zielona Góra
Alstom Wrocław
Apriso Kraków
Avio Polska Bielsko - Biała
Avon Garwolin
Bombardier Katowice
Bosh - Siemens £ódź
CapGemini Polska Wrocław
Cederroth Radzymin
CH2M HILL Kraków
Compuware Gdańsk
Cooper-Standard Automotive Myślenice
Delphi Kraków
Diehl Wrocław
Faurecia Grójec
General Electric Aircraft Engines Warszawa
GlaxoSmithKline Poznań
Grace Chemicals Poznań
Hewlett - Packard Wrocław
Humax Warszawa, Pruszcz Gdański
IBM Kraków
Intel Gdańsk
LG Electronics Ciechanów
Lucent Technologies Bydgoszcz
Lurgi Kraków
Mentor Graphics Katowice
Microsoft Poznań, £ódź
Motorola Kraków
Ontrack Katowice
Oracle Warszawa
Philips PIła, Kętrzyn
Pliva Kraków
Pratt & Whitney Rzeszów
Remy Internationale Wrocław
RTS Network Szczecin
Sabre Kraków
Samsung Electronics Warszawa
SAS Institute Warszawa
Siemens Wrocław
TopGaN Warszawa
TietoEnator Wrocław
TRW Automotive Częstochowa
Volvo Wrocław
Polanglik 11 | 303  
9 Jun 2008 /  #8
I have seen Poland 20 years ago ... there is postive change :)

totally agree with you £ukasz ..... Polska is definitely on the way up and i see foreign investment in Polska as a good thing :o)
OP Lukasz 49 | 1,746  
25 Jul 2008 /  #9
In my opinion this phenomen is related to old Polish mathematic tradtitions continued after the war. Now there is possibility to use it in comercial purposes.

Historical Influences
Over the centuries, Polish mathematicians have influenced the course of history. Copernicus used mathematics to buttress his revolutionary heliocentric theory. Four hundred years later, Marian Rejewski - subsequently assisted by fellow mathematician-cryptologists Jerzy Różycki and Henryk Zygalski - in December 1932 first broke the German Enigma machine cipher, thus laying the foundations for British World War II reading of Enigma ciphers ("Ultra"). After the war, Stanisław Ulam showed Edward Teller how to construct a practicable hydrogen bomb.

ski 7 | 140  
27 Aug 2008 /  #10
20th international olympiad in informatics
IOI 2008 Results

1st Poland and China the same result 3 gold 1 silver
2nd Russia 2 gold 2 silver
3rd USA 2 gold 1 silver

well done

In my opinion some members are not concious about processes in the world. It just to some members of this forum.
Prince 15 | 590  
13 Dec 2008 /  #11
Samsung to open mobile technology center in Warsaw

Samsung is opening a mobile technology centre in Poland this autumn. It will be the company's first in Central and Eastern Europe. In the first stage of investment - to the end of 2008 - the centre will employ more than 100 specialists. Located in Warsaw, it will mainly develop software for mobile phones, adapted to market needs. For the past seven years, Warsaw has also been home to a Samsung research and development centre, which develops software for digital satellite television.

SeanBM 35 | 5,806  
14 Dec 2008 /  #12
I know quite a few people who are currently investing a lot of money in Poland.
Despite what you may think Poland is still a good place to invest.
The trick is you have to know what to invest in.

Especially with 2012 just around the corner, Poland will hopefully have the 'Euro currency', the European football championships and the infrastructure to support it's development.

It already has highly skilled and educated people with a good work ethic.

Yeah, but isn't it the case that foreigners steal in and milk the profits, leaving the Poles to do all the donkey work? That's what I've heard.

I think that is a very unfair statement, I see that it is only what you heard.
Investors want to make profit, they employ Polish people, creating a competitive market and employment.
In Ireland we had/have may American multinationals because we made it very attractive for them to come to Ireland. Both the companies and Ireland have benefited hugely from this transaction.
Prince 15 | 590  
15 Dec 2008 /  #13
In my opinion it has something to do with it:

Successes of Polish programmers

Polish programmers have won the first place in the World Finals of the Association for Computing Machinery (ACM) International Collegiate Programming Contest which had place in Tokyo, Japan in March 12 - 16, 2007. The most talented students from the world's finest universities were competing in the annual contest supported by ACM and IBM.

In 2003 Warsaw University won the university team title in the ACM-ICPC in Texas and in 2004 the same university won bronze medal. In 2006 in ACM - ICPC Jagiellonian University took second place winning gold medal and on seventh place Warsaw University took silver medal.

In the Europe Championship in Team Programming 2005 polish students won first four places leaving behind 52 teams. Teams from Warsaw University took first two places, third took Jagiellonian University team and forth for the team from University of Wroclaw.

In the same year 2005 Poland took first place in Top Coder contest. The most prestigious programming company which holds the worldwide online contest for the best programmers and schools announced Poland as an "undeniable leader who left behind USA and other cyber powers".

The first place in Google Code Jam 2005 took polish student at Warsaw University and again polish student won first place in Code Jam Europe 2006.Google Cod Jam is another annual online coding competition consisting of a series of problem-solving challenges that invite participants to select a programming language and use their programming skills to code solutions to the problems.
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
15 Dec 2008 /  #14
This is what I like, Prince. My fiancee's brother was the Lead Designer for a company in Katowice. He showed me demos of stuff and I was impressed at just how technically advanced Poland is, relative to the perception of others.

It's quite fitting that a competition was held in Tokyo, a true centre for excellence. Technology there is mindblowing.

Polish programming goes back a long way. Poland should hold its head high here and fingers crossed that investment continues at the same level or higher.
15 Dec 2008 /  #15
Poland is attractive because its cheap, the same reason why india is attractive to western european investors.
Wroclaw Boy  
15 Dec 2008 /  #16
The trick is you have to know what to invest in.

Absolutely the Irish are great at that, put there money where the mouth is. I know of a Irish company that bought Cemet Ozarow back around 1996, a major player in national cement distribution. Those guys would have made millions by now.
Prince 15 | 590  
31 Dec 2008 /  #17
Or maybe we can see the begining at present time.

There is 38 milions people in Poland. 1 bilion in China and 300 milions in USA ... and Poland wins against their represenations in informatics ....
We will see what future will show.

btw read the names from last olimpics...

Miroslaw Michalski was the best programer from United Kingdom on this competition.

Programming Gold in 2008 TopCoder Open opcoder-open/

Tomasz Czajka of Poland took first place in the $25,000 Algorithm competition; Tim Roberts of the United States finished with top honors in the Software Design event, earning $25,000 for his win; the Software Development champion was Romano Silva of Brazil

Czajka, known to the TopCoder Community by his handle 'tomek', won the Algorithm event with a score of 746 points. Czajka was the only competitor to successfully attempt the hard level problem. Petr Mitrichev, aka 'Petr' from the Russian Federation, placed second; and third place went to Eryk Kopczynski, aka "Eryx", also of Poland.

In the Marathon Match, Przemyslaw Debiak, aka 'Psyho', of Poland bested Tuomas Pelkonen, aka 'tpelkone', of Finland and Bohua Zhan, aka 'bhzhan', of the United States.

TopCoder tournaments are known worldwide as the most grueling, comprehensive test of skill in the field of competitive programming. The events allow competitors to solve complex algorithmic problems and design and develop working pieces of reusable software.

All current industry standard technologies are incorporated, including Java, C++, C#, VB.NET, UML, J2EE and .NET.

Seanus 15 | 19,674  
21 Jan 2009 /  #18
Poland is highly impressive in this field. It would be good if my brother could speak Polish and understand the nature of the competition. He is also highly proficient, he works for Conono-Phillips.

Flying the flag for Poland, Prince. Nice one!! :)
Prince 15 | 590  
24 Jan 2009 /  #19
Telcordia Opens Technology Research Center in Poland

Telcordia Technologies, a global leader in the development of IP, wireline and mobile telecommunications software and services, today announced that it has just opened a research center in Poznan, Poland. The Poznan Technology Research Center will play a critical role in extending Telcordia's research and collaboration capabilities across a wide range of government and commercial partnerships in Europe.

"This is a very important development for the science and technology community in Poland, creating opportunities for the next generations of engineers and innovators in our region," said Professor Wojciech Cellary, Head of the Information Technology Department at the Poznan University of Economics. "Telcordia is a leading American communications software and services company that has literally invented many of the core technologies that enable communications today and continue to create the communications technology of the future."

As I know after half of the year both sides are satisfied.
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
24 Jan 2009 /  #20
Another major development in communications technology. It seems like a mutually beneficial partnership.
Prince 15 | 590  
26 Jan 2009 /  #21
Peter and Wolf won OSCAR as the best Animated movie. Animations have been made in Poland.

Se-Ma-For £ódz.

Now this Polish studio is going to make new animations to the next movies ... this time "Chopin project".

Anny way ... we are back :)
David_18 66 | 969  
26 Jan 2009 /  #22
The thing is that the "normal" people in Europe don't like to see Poland rise and benefit to much. The only thing i read about is how irish and british people are so jealous that the polish people stole their favourite jobs like un-pair, toilet /street cleaner etc..

Just get used to it. Poland is pushing forward and will be the new big fish in the lake. And dont worry about to not be able to clean your toilets anymore or clean the streets for a penny or two. Poles are leaving and they hopefully wont come back.

I guess they got tired of bacon and egg!!

Bratwurst Boy 11 | 11,775  
27 Jan 2009 /  #23
The thing is that the "normal" people in Europe don't like to see Poland rise and benefit to much.

Any links for that?
Puzzler 9 | 1,088  
27 Jan 2009 /  #24
- Here comes another Polonophobic racist - this time from germany, the seat of nazism. Is this board a dumping ground for crap like that? If they were on a website of any other nationality, abusing the nationality, the folks running the website would kick them out and ban for life right on the spot. But they are allowed to stick around on this 'Polish' forum and puke their racist venom at us, Poles, at will. Why folks running this forum allow them to be here? Because they themselves are Polonophobes, right?
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
27 Jan 2009 /  #25
Yeah, some businesses just need the confidence to take the plunge and invest. It takes a long time to establish a reputation as a safe bet. There was talk of Tusk altering the tax levels to entice more prospective companies. Again, we hear nothing of this man. This is in stark contrast to British politics where the PM is almost always in the spotlight for one thing or another.
Prince 15 | 590  
27 Jan 2009 /  #26

Asseco Poland (ACP) is the largest IT company listed on the Warsaw Stock Exchange. In April 2008 the process of merging Asseco Poland and Prokom Software was completed. As a result of the merger, Asseco Poland became one of the ten largest IT companies in Europe in terms of capitalisation.

Asseco Poland specialises in the production and development of software for various sectors of economy. Asseco Poland is one of the few companies in Poland that develops and implements its own centralised, comprehensive IT systems for the banking sector used by more than a half of the banks operating in Poland. The company also provides solutions for the insurance sector, enterprises and public administration.

Asseco Poland leads the development of the international Asseco Capital Group, which embraces European IT companies. The Asseco Group companies are present in ten-odd countries, including Poland, Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Germany, Austria, Lithuania, Romania, Serbia and Croatia. The company plans further international expansion in the near future. It analyses the markets of the following countries: the United Kingdom, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, France, and Italy.

Software Centre in CEE-C – a federation of IT companies from the region, specializing in developing proprietary software.

Major companies of Asseco Capital Group

Asseco Poland
Asseco Systems (100%)
Asseco Business Solutions (46,47%)
Anica System (100%)
NOVUM (51,00%)
Sintagma (61,64%)
ABG (32,99%)
DRQ (100%)
Kom-Pakt (100%)
INSI (100%)
OptiX Polska (100%)
PIW Postinfo (60%)
Serum Software (64%)
KKI-BCI (98,02%)
Combidata (83,80%)
Postdata (49,00%)
Asseco Slovakia (40,09%)
Slovanet (51,00%)
DATALOCK (51,04%)
MPI Slovakia (51,00%)
Disig (51,00%)
UniQuare (60,00%)
TEDIS (34,00%)
Axera (40,00%)
Crystal Consulting (30,22%)

Asseco Czech Republic (100%)
Prvni Certifikacni Autorita (23,25%)
LCS (95,78%)
BERIT (55,43%)

Asseco Germany (93,00%)
AP Automation+Productivity AG (80,00%)
matrix42 AG (97,53%)

Asseco South Eastern Europe (93,00%)
FIBa Software (70,00%)
Net Consulting (70,00%)
Pexim (60,00%)
Pexim Cardinfo (60,00%)
Arbor Informatika (70,00%)
Logos (60,00%)
Antegra (70,00%)
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
27 Jan 2009 /  #27
Nice link, Prince. Poland is also active in the field of ID cards. OP.Team, a subsidiary of Geralto, is looking to maximise the benefits of these cards through the incorporation of state-of-the-art electronic options. E-Purse and E-Ticketing are 2 key initiatives. Such practical options are user friendly.

There were concerns about data protection but fears have been allayed due to the close collaboration of relevant personnel. This is a positive step for Poland as it is a country burdened by excessive bureaucracy. The removal of the need for screeds of paperwork is a healthy development.

So, another success story.
Prince 15 | 590  
31 Jan 2009 /  #28
Tusk at Davos to encourage investment in Poland.

Of course, there is no stable [financial] haven in the world, but, actually, Poland is in one of the best economic situations of all European countries,"
Seanus 15 | 19,674  
31 Jan 2009 /  #29
Putin, as the nominated leading speaker, chose to talk generally about the economic predicament. This will have knock-on effects in due course on Poland.

How short-sighted you appear, Prince. A dent in confidence directly affects the propensity to trade with others. Are you saying that you have no trade with Russia and will not have in the future? How about those Russian businessmen, do you naively assume that they will just sidestep Poland altogether as a viable business proposition?
Prince 15 | 590  
5 Feb 2009 /  #30ński

Tomasz Bagiński (To-mash Ba-geen-skee), Tomek Baginski (born January 10, 1976, Białystok) is a BAFTA Award-winning Polish artist and animator, best known for his Oscar-nominated short movie, The Cathedral (2002). For his newest short, Fallen Art (2004), he received a BAFTA Award for Best Short Animation and Grand Prix for Digital Shorts at Golden Horse Film Festival 2005 (shared with: Jarek Sawko and Piotr Sikora). Bagiński also created cinematics for The Witcher computer game based on the books of Andrzej Sapkowski.

ir: Tomek Baginski / Poland / 2005 In an old forgotten military base far from civilization, a group of deranged military officers nurture their insanity.

After success of The Witcher on global market it seems that we are going to have next part of this game.

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