Polish-Islam Relationship Union

well islam is not what muslims do , its what they should do. and its not also what u see on TV nor read in the newspaper

I see a basic problem. You are saying that muslims don't follow the teachings of the Qar'an. They don't do what they are taught from their holy book or what they should do as taught in their holy book..

Then they are not followers of Islam, Are they ?

again i am so fustrated by all of you narowwed minded people out there not really knowing what the darn you are talking about ,it is that you just assume every muslim in the world is a terroist, why and what gives you this impreesion, bec ause i can tell you this that 90 % of crimes here iin the free usa are comitted by non muslim poelpe ie. raping of children and murder and all such terrble things that happen here in the good ole usa now tell me why are muslims to blame for all the bad things that happen? also remember the the bombing in oklahoma city was comitted by 2 christian extremist who hated our and theyre own government and killed hundreds of men women and children in theyre own country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!s

Who here has said that? I doubt that anybody outside of a lunatic asylum believes that all Muslims are terrorists.


So 10% of crimes in the USA are committed by Muslims, who make up only about 2% of the population? Are you seriously saying that Muslims in the USA commit five times as many crimes per person as non-Muslims? Are you some kind of Islamophobe?


They weren't able to cite Christian theology, or point to Biblical verses to support their actions.

for some,, those who choose to interpret it the right way


and crimes committed in muslim countries are committed by who? or are you saying
that muslim countries have no crime rates??


so muslims do not rape in their country? they do not kill? I didnt read that anyone said
they are to blame for everything. but dont act like muslim is the holy sinless people
of the earth because thats stupid..

I said that they misinterpret what islam is all about,. and some use the religion
as a scapegoat,, you deny that???

just like a stupid person from the united states who could be christian and use
that as a scapegoat, but there is more instances in the islam world, because they
use it to satisfy their own needs.. from killing to rape.. and if you think this is right
then you need serious help..


people are reading, seeing and its media,, just like you would believe something
about the president if you seen it on television that he was going to do something
bad ...


so you believe they were christian?? is that not narrowminded? anyone who is
christian knows that people do not kill. it was another scapegoat reason to get
people to believe they were doing a worthy cause.. yet in fact were hard core
killers... murder has no religion.

Where did I say that ?

It's not about every Muslim and not even so much about bin-Laden etc. The most important fact is that Islam is a very expansive religion, which is trying to dominate other religions and Muslims believe in their superiority ("the only truth" etc.) although It's really hard to find any rational reasons behind that If somebody looks at their countries and people.

I can see where the misinterpretation comes in just by this simple phrase.. how
someone could manipulate it to their benefit to get followers to do whatever it is
the want them to do to become one with him...

Excuse me? Narrow minded?
Aren't you the one who believes in only one god? With so many gods to chose from, how much narrow minded can you be? :)


hmmm, that says volumes of crimes by muslim people. 0.5% of US population (2001)
commits 10% of crimes. See, we knew there was something fishy about Isalm.


All extremists are nuts. From what I hear there is no shortgae of those in Islam.

listen i just said that 90% of crimes are comited by non muslims i did not say the rest are muslims comitting crimes!!!!!!!! anyways i m done in this nonsense forum all of u all are ignorant when comes to trash talking muslims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and just ur looking to minimize what others have to say about it so if it makes you feel good to point out others faults then whatever; i dont really care,i know that i am a good person an i mean no harm to anyone ,i just get upset at people trying to make others look stupid,and again if that makes you feel better about youselves i guess it is good for you; but as for myself; i am never coming into this polish forums . com again so peace to all of you....

I don't undertsand the point of converting. All you prove is that you never had very much faith in the first place. How are people supposed to see that you have faith in this new religion when you already changed your mind once. Doesn't make much sense to me...

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I dunno what kind of logic you are using but if 90% are non-muslim then the rest are muslim, whether you say so or not.

well it was


why dont you explain to us where all the good muslims went in iraq?

Yes. So how does that make the other 10% not muslims. How does that work? Do the math.

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news.yahoo/s/ap/20071209/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_women_killed

Vigilantes kill 40 women in Iraq's south

Disgusting article. This definitely will not help the moderate Muslims in trying to clear up their image. You know, you really have to wonder why those guys are doing this. I swear, they still live like its the 7th century over there.

we didnt say that either.. so whats your point.. everyone is capable .. we
are talking misinterpretations of it and that some take it to extreme.. least
thats where I was at.. anyone else pretty sure cubic was agreeing..

animals. outside of the muslims nowadays, which religions kill people just because people do not abide by it??

yeah totally agree

Agreed, I mean you get a fanatic in every religion every once in a while, but nothing as mainstream and "accepted" as murdering/torture in religious cases in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq etc..

You know its funny that Islam is the youngest of the major world religions, yet most of its followers really are stuck in time.

agree again.. was lookin for these words but you found emm.
or rather this is how I wanted to word it.. its sad really..

just to remind you.mohamad wed a wife who was i think 9 years old.ask any imam if sleeping with underage girls is allowed and most of them,if not all,would say"yes"

This was funny. You do this - and if it comes known before sunset, it would be your last night on this Earth (if she's not your wife).

That's what I'm talking about - people know nothing about Islam - they judge about it by so called Muslims actions. Well - that simply means you don't need to know, you just don't need it - so why all the fruitless dicussions? One more time assure yourself that everything will be great in your life because "your religion" is not like "religion of that murderers"? I'm telling you - nobody needs to find the truth - because it's very easy to pretend that "you're on the right side". Very easy to watch TV about "Islamic countries stuck in the past" and talk about everything "Islamic" - but it's nothing - you will never ever come to the Truth. To read the Holy Quran you have to know arabic - and you have to study many and many years - because if you read in in translation - nothing again, just for starters, you won't understand a thing. This book was given TO YOU also, because YOU'RE the one of human beings among others, who live on this Earth - YOU also has a right to read Tora, Bible and now The Holy Quran - all Books that was given. If you decide not digging into this but rely on others ideas about it, based on watching people behavour - up to you.

I think everybody knows this famous phrase of a scientist - "Thanks God I happened to know Islam before I happened to know muslims".

If my neighbor, who called himself a Muslim, will kill his sister, who changed her believe - it's not my problem, it's his. He will be responsible for that. But if I will throw away Islam because I saw my neighbour killed his sis based on his believe , this gonna be my problem and I will be responsible for my action.

I know for sure that anyone who cares about his life and who is trying to find answers will find 'em sooner or later. Why God puts veil on people's eyes - that's another great secret over which you could be pondering the whole life.

With peace to all of you reading.

Here is a monumental piece of music. Don't much care for the words, though.

A lot of fire and boling water in that clip.

On the button Mr R....

I though he married a widow who was possibly older than him and well off:).

That what I was taught in the sociology of religion:)

That too. But that for for the money.
However, he was also a pedofile:

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234:
Narrated Aisha:

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

source: usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/058.sbt.html#005.058.234

It seems he married more than once

He had sex with a nine year old..... he married her when she was six !!!!!

The result of a rather quick google search.

A great number of younger muslims agree and almost all interviewed agreed to a certain extent that if not killed they should be punished (recent documentary on).

A religion that as far as I am concerned is based on lies - man made lies - doesn't sit well with me. It insights hatred and oppression. Like people have said Christians are forgiving and because we are Westernised then we are more liberable in these matters, inbred pakistani muslims, however, are not.

In the Jewish religion it’s not look upon favourably to marry out of the faith but there are no murders and very rarely people are cut off financially these days whilst most cultures evolve and move on, Islam goes backwards....less forgiving and more controlling!