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Antisemitism in Poland; is it safe for a Jew to live in Poland?


z_darius 14 | 3,968  
30 Jul 2008 /  #181
Indeed it is interesting that you chose Wroclaw as an example.

yehudi simply chose to ignore the fact that Wroclaw was Polish before Germans got hold of it. So in fact his statement bears little weight, as Germans didn't lose anything. They just failed to hold on to what wasn't theirs in the first place. Lucky bastards got to keep Berlin though.
yehudi 1 | 433  
31 Jul 2008 /  #182
yehudi simply chose to ignore the fact that Wroclaw was Polish before Germans got hold of it.

To the Germans Breslau was a German city. Yet no Polish goverment would think of giving it to Germany, even in the peaceful EU, since it was lost to them in a war that Germany started. Similarly, Whatever land the Arabs lost was the result of a war that they started. So why should Israel give it to them? And we're not talking about some peaceful EU situaiton here. We all saw what the Arabs did once they got control of Gaza - constant rockets on civilians in Israel proper.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
31 Jul 2008 /  #183
Spankin:
is it safe for a Jew to live in Poland?

NO ! End of topic.

OK... I wasn't serious... It is safe... you may come... just not too many of you...
Switezianka - | 463  
31 Jul 2008 /  #184
Yesterday I was out with two Jewish-looking Jews (beards, kippahs, tzitzits) in the centre of £ódź. We passed a lot of dresiarze and nobody payed attention to those guys. Maybe it's getting safer here?
MrBubbles 10 | 614  
31 Jul 2008 /  #185
yehudi simply chose to ignore the fact that Wroclaw was Polish

No it wasn't. Check your history books.

, Whatever land the Arabs lost was the result of a war that they started.

Well, that's not strictly true either. They lost their land (and it's good to see that you agree that the land was theirs) originally because of the 1947 UN plan. The land lost after the 1967 war (the first blow was struck by Israel by the way) has yet to be returned, despite a number of UN resolutions condemning Israel.

What happened at the King David hotel by the way? Wasn't this an act of Jewish terrorism? Could it be said that Israel was founded on terror? Shock!
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
31 Jul 2008 /  #186
No it wasn't. Check your history books.

Although I doubt if there were many Poles in Breslau at the end of WWII it was once a Polish city. No doubt about it.
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
31 Jul 2008 /  #187
o it wasn't. Check your history books.

I have. Have you?

Whatever land the Arabs lost was the result of a war that they started. S

It's all a question of how far back in time we go.

Jews were out of the area as a Jewish state for almost 2000 years. And even when they came to what is now Israel, it wasn't exactly an empty space a few thousand years ago. Israelis did quite a bit of ethnic cleansing of their own before they were able to settle there. I guess in today's terms it is sometimes referred to as crimes against humanity.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,436  
31 Jul 2008 /  #188
I have. Have you?

No you haven't or you would have known that:

wroclaw-life.com/wroclaw/history

The first permanent settlers in Wroclaw were the Slavic Slezan tribe, who built a stronghold on the island of Ostrow Tumski sometime in the 9th century. (Ostrow Tumski is no longer an island since an arm of the river Odra was filled in 1810). Later this settlement was absorbed into Czech territory from where the name Wroclaw is thought to have been derived - after a Czech leader by the name of Wrocislaw. It wasn't until around 990AD that Prince Mieszko I, of the Piast dynasty and founder of the Polish state, seized control of Wroclaw and incorporated the region of Silesia into Poland.

Lucky bastards got to keep Berlin though.

How generous of you!
What do you want to do? Expelling all those millions non-Poles like you did in Breslau?

Although I doubt if there were many Poles in Breslau at the end of WWII it was once a Polish city. No doubt about it

It's all a question of how far back you want to go, isn't it???

Thanks Admins...you cutted the important rest so here it is again:

Please check the rules about quoting the messages.

in 1336, the last of the Piast Princes died and the duchy of Silesia was annexed to Bohemia - despite the efforts of King Casimir III of Poland to hold onto it. His failure to do so meant that it was six hundred years until Wroclaw was returned to Polish hands.

Wroclaw, or Prezzla as it begins to be known as, continued to flourish under Bohemian rule and in 1387 gained admittance into the Hanseatic League, a powerful conglomeration of trading cities (think of it as a medieval version of G8!). The winds of change picked up again in the 16th century when King Ludwig died in battle, leaving no heirs, and the Bohemian estate elected Duke Ferdinand, of the Austrian line of Habsburgs, as King. Now Wroclaw was under Austrian rule.

It was polish for about 300 years...for far longer it was NOT polish but bohemian, austrian and german and inhabited mainly by Germans!
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
31 Jul 2008 /  #189
No you haven't or you would have known that:

I wrote it was Polish before it was German. Your post doesn't prove otherwise.

How generous of you!

Oh, don't mention it.

What do you want to do? Expelling all those millions non-Poles like you did in Breslau?

What are you smoking?
I didn't expel anybody from anywhere, except for my cat from my bed.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,436  
31 Jul 2008 /  #190
It was polish BEFORE it became Bohemian and Austrian and in the end German.
(And far BEFORE it was polish for mere 300 years it was inhabited by germanic and slavic tribes!)

...poor cat though....
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
31 Jul 2008 /  #191
OK... but the topic is about antisemitism in Poland...
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
31 Jul 2008 /  #192
It was polish BEFORE it became Bohemian and Austrian and in the end German.

actually, it was first bohemian, and in the end it is Polish yet again.

Berlin is next :)

OK... but the topic is about antisemitism in Poland...

seems like that topic does not offer a whole lot of material for discussion after all ;)
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,436  
31 Jul 2008 /  #193
Berlin is next :)

Please do!

(...as I move back to Breslau!l)

:)

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