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Antisemitism in Poland; is it safe for a Jew to live in Poland?


Arien  
18 Jul 2008 /  #31
One of my Polish friends actually is Jewish, and he was born there, lives there and really, the majority of the Polish people are hard-working, normal citizens like you and me.

Maybe next time you would bring your father and tell him that there's no need to be affraid because Poland is a nice pleace with good people. Or maybe after few days you would leave and wont ever come back. Take a chance.

pawian 175 | 13,552  
18 Jul 2008 /  #32
bring out the dancing girls.

Quit drinking tonight...
Przemas 1 | 101  
18 Jul 2008 /  #33
I once dated a girl whose cousin once saw a Jew crossing a street in Poland with some kind of “chosen people” strut to his step.

The Polish youth suddenly emerged on the scene and even though they did not acknowledge his presence, they sure had anti-Semitism in their hearts.

True story.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,699  
18 Jul 2008 /  #34
One guy got arrested for doing the Nazi salut

good serves him right, no need for stone throwing, just lock up the idiots who
want to be like the idiot who created the salute in the first place. :)
Wahldo  
18 Jul 2008 /  #35
bring out the dancing girls.

Hahaa.. if ever an event needed dancing girls it was this one. Christ, looks like New York.
LAGirl 9 | 496  
19 Jul 2008 /  #36
you should go to Poland but if I was you go to Krakow or £odź or Warsaw becuase you should live maybe in a jewish community there then get used to Poland. yes Poland had the most populus of jewish people ther ebecfore the bastards nazis came to power. that is good that Poland is getting back their fellow countrymen and culture they had once shared with the fellow borhter Poles who were gentiles and to those who are anti semtic are plain dumbass idiots so go for it.
Switezianka - | 463  
19 Jul 2008 /  #37
I would not jump to the idea it was because of their religion.

It is not sure but it's very probable. I've heard enough anti-Semitic talk from people of various age and background, including my own grandfather. I also got into conflicts by simply stating that I know a lot of Jews and even make some business with them. Also, there have been several cases when young men were beaten up in streets because of having long hair (and thus, betraying our race), so I think ethnic/religious motive is the most probable one if hair can be enough.

WoW! that's an opening?, they look bored stiff!

That's what Lodz community is like - getting more and more stiff and Orthodox. They can't have proper fun even at Purim. Anyway, I wonder who's gonna use that mikvah (bath)...
Eliza 1 | 1  
19 Jul 2008 /  #38
In my opinion anti-semitism in Poland isn't more problematic than in other countries.

When we look at figures with Poles murdered in UK for being Polish, inprisoned in concentration / work camps, anti Polish slogans on their houses, burned Polish shops ...

In Poland hate crimes are not serious problem.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,436  
19 Jul 2008 /  #39
Why don't Jews flock to Israel???

I mean that's what they always wanted, isn't it? Their holy land back...

Since 60 years now there is trouble because of this, wars...maybe the next will go nuclear.

People around the world get killed because of this ME conflict...and for what??? There still live more Jews in the US than in Israel, not to mention that many want to leave their hard fought for land again!

They should decide at last what they really want! I'm sick to my stomach to watch every day in the news something from this **** corner of the world again and again.

And I'm sick of these people too who have nothing better to do in their blogs or whole organization than to note scrupulous every real or perceived "anti-semitism" they can find and wriggling their fingers at the "criminal".

Every minute someone around the world get's joked about or even attacked because of what he is, what he looks like, his religion or whatever! And these orthodox Jews look funny, fact!

That's life!
Where are the polish blogger lamenting about polish jokes and demanding punishment for the teller for example?
And so on....nobody else does this!

Jews grate on my nerves, really!

PS: If I were Jew and would know the history of my people I would maybe start asking myself WHY they hate my people around the world wherever they did go...oops...am I now an anti-semite???

Rant over!
GaelForce - | 15  
19 Jul 2008 /  #40
Comes as a real surprise to me Sean as i was brought up in a Jewish household in Dublin and my mother thought the nazi bombs that rained on Terenure in 1941 were directed solely at her the housekeeper.

As regards antisemitism in Ireland there was a small outbreak in Limerick in 1904.

amazon.co.uk/Limerick-Boycott-Anti-Semitism-Ireland/dp/1856 354539

Today Irelands Jewish community has dwindled to a few thousand or less as the young have to travel to find co-religionist partners.

politics.ie/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=38659&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
Arien  
19 Jul 2008 /  #41
I've made loads of jokes about Jews. If you're not being hateful about it, most Jewish people will have absolutely no problem with you. From my personal experience, I know that most Jewish people value humour.

PS: If I were Jew and would know the history of my people I would maybe start asking myself WHY they hate my people around the world wherever they did go...

Why would they? There is never an excuse for misplaced hatred.

Give me one reason why I should hate a Jewish person? Or any other person for that matter?
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,436  
19 Jul 2008 /  #43
From my personal experience, I know that most Jewish people value humour.

They should put their "anti-semitism" screamer and finger wriggler on a leash if you ask me.
They don't help!

Why would they? There is never an excuse for misplaced hatred.

Excuse me, maybe my impression is wrong but in short jewish history seems to be one of suffering, persecution, pogroms, death, banishment, isolation, expulsion, oppression and some more suffering...that is not normal! Does nobody ever ask why?
Wroclaw Boy  
19 Jul 2008 /  #44
Ive had some jewish clients recently, well they werent clients actually more like leeches/parasites. They took my and my partners valuable time, used our knowledge messed around beyond belief when it came to parting with the cash. Then they fcuked off back to Israel and I never heard anything since.

I dont deal with Israeli Jews anymore. Very cunning race.
Arien  
19 Jul 2008 /  #45
Does nobody ever ask why?

I'm sure they're asking themselves why? I simply meant to say that maybe non-Jewish people should ask themselves why they've done all of this to the Jewish people? Why should Jewish people answer these questions? They're not the ones who started with the persecution..

I do agree with you that it's not normal, but hope you'll see my point?
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,436  
19 Jul 2008 /  #46
I simply meant to say that maybe non-Jewish people should ask themselves why they've done all of this to the Jewish people?

You see...I grew up with the notion it's all the gentiles fault (me a holocaust german you understand). So it was always the nice innocent Jews against the cruel non-Jews...but over the years I changed my view point. I frankly don't believe that anymore...

The whole history of mankind, of course here in Europe too people mingled, made war, made peace, made war again, mixed, fertilized each other, assimiliated...you know what I mean...but not the Jews! They stayed always out like a sore thumb.

It takes two to tango!
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
19 Jul 2008 /  #47
Remember how Borat guy (a Jew) showed Kazakhs ? Imagine how terrible oy vey would be If the same was done to Jews... But there Jews and Goys in the world... just read Talmud...
miranda  
19 Jul 2008 /  #48
Remember how Borat guy (a Jew) showed Kazakhs

it was a dig at being oversensitive to anisemitism. Mind you, if it came form a Goy it would not be so funny.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
19 Jul 2008 /  #49
it was a dig at being oversensitive to anisemitism.

Really ? But Kazakhs don't find It funny.
miranda  
19 Jul 2008 /  #50
yah, I agree. There is the Jewish humor not always funny,eh?
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
19 Jul 2008 /  #51
Comes as a real surprise to me Sean as i was brought up in a Jewish household in Dublin and my mother thought the nazi bombs that rained on Terenure in 1941 were directed solely at her the housekeeper.

How would what I said come as a surprise? because you were brought up in a Jewish house in Dublin? that does not make sense, there were very very very few Jews in Ireland, can you not agree about that?.

And as for your mother thinking it was the Nazi's out to get her, fair enough, if I were a Jew during WW2 I would have been paranoid too because people were out to get Jews. But it is the general belief about those air raids were that the Nazis had mistaken the Irish East coast for the British west coast.

As regards antisemitism in Ireland there was a small outbreak in Limerick in 1904.

What? what are you trying to say by showing this? a "small outbreak in 1904", I am sure If I search the web I can find a person from Kuala Lumpur that was picked on once by Irish people through out history.

Today Irelands Jewish community has dwindled to a few thousand or less as the young have to travel to find co-religionist partners.

This even proves my point, A Jew can not find another Jew to marry and have kids with because there are and were very very very few Jews in Ireland.

And any one from Kuala Lumpur who has been attacked by any Irish person in history, please note that my comment is just a co-incidence.

I think people need to stop being so serious, some people are Jews, so what, going marching around shouting things is too much trouble for such an unworthy cause. There are plenty of causes worth the effort, live and let live.
GaelForce - | 15  
19 Jul 2008 /  #52
Yes, but you said "there were never any Jews in Ireland" which was plain wrong. There was always a small (and very well liked)community. Most seemed to be there by accident btw, having got off the ship in Cork thinking they were in America and settled because they had no money left to move on. It's a testament to their talents that so many became very successful within a generation having had such an inauspicious start. Neutral Ireland was by far the safest place in Europe for Jews of this period.
LAGirl 9 | 496  
19 Jul 2008 /  #53
some of you guys are really ignorant fools. sounds like nazi talk on here. everyone of of every race ripps people off I am not jewish but only can imagine what they went through still to this day nobody understands a struggle they have to go through havent we all learned from history or are people stupid still this is sad.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
19 Jul 2008 /  #54
Yes, but you said "there were never any Jews in Ireland" which was plain wrong.

It was not "plain wrong" right there were a very very very small community, so small in fact that even in the link you sent it states

at what point does it stop being a community and just become a group of people who happen to be Jewish

politics.ie/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=38659&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
Arien  
19 Jul 2008 /  #55
You see...I grew up with the notion it's all the gentiles fault (me a holocaust german you understand). So it was always the nice innocent Jews against the cruel non-Jews...but over the years I changed my view point. I frankly don't believe that anymore...

Me neither. But for me this is still no reason to hate a Jewish person? I mean, should I hate you just for being a German? (Your parents know how it feels like to be hated just for being a German don't they?) Well, it's exactly the same thing as when you would hate a person just for being Jewish.

The whole history of mankind, of course here in Europe too people mingled, made war, made peace, made war again, mixed, fertilized each other, assimiliated...you know what I mean...but not the Jews! They stayed always out like a sore thumb.

I've slept with a Jewish lady. One of my buddies has already slept with two Jewish girls. (Sorry ladies, but we guys gossip too!) Oh, and I know two Jewish guys who are happily married to a Dutch woman, but according to you they're always staying out?

People are people you know, and we could discuss an infinite number of stories and articles on the internet about our past all day long but this doesn't really help anyone?

It takes two to tango!

Well, some do, some don't..
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,436  
19 Jul 2008 /  #56
Why should I hate Jews???

I said they grate on my nerves! They make much to much fuss for such a tiny people...not only "according to me"!

I mean, should I hate you just for being a German?

And even if you do I'm not founding a watch organization and point a virtual finger at you or suing you or demanding apologies or what not....see the difference?
GaelForce - | 15  
19 Jul 2008 /  #57
It was not "plain wrong" right there were a very very very small community, so small in fact that even in the link you sent it states

5000 in the late 40's, 2000 today. Yes a very small community but in no sense 'none ever' as you claimed.
Arien  
19 Jul 2008 /  #58
Hey now, I've never said that you did? I've simply asked you why you or someone else should because of your comment?

PS: If I were Jew and would know the history of my people I would maybe start asking myself WHY they hate my people around the world wherever they did go...

So I just answered that maybe non-Jewish people should ask themselves why they should hate Jewish people, because as you may already know it weren't the Jewish people who have started the prosecutions?

Why should I hate Jews???

Exactly my point?

And even if you do I'm not founding a watch organization and point a virtual finger at you or suing you or demanding apologies or what not....see the difference?

Yes, I do, but it's not like Jewish people are the only ones who do this. Cartoons anyone?
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,436  
19 Jul 2008 /  #59
I think this question was far to long only directed at non-jews, don't you think?

If in a group of totally different humans over 1500 years one get's always shunned it can't be only always the fault of the others, can't it.

Try to compare it with a class of kids or a work group in an office (just an example).
The work environment changes steadily but still wherever this person goes he is disliked and mistrusted...always only the fault of his co-workers??? Come on...

(Yes I know it's a broad generalization but I think many Jews see their history the same)
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
19 Jul 2008 /  #60
Yes a very small community but in no sense 'none ever' as you claimed.

I already agreed that there was a very very small amount of Jews. what's the matter?
Anyway someone else already posted a list of Jews in Irish History...

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