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Antisemitism in Poland; is it safe for a Jew to live in Poland?


Dupek Stupak 3 | 43  
24 Jul 2008 /  #121
What does anti-semitism mean in today's world?
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,436  
24 Jul 2008 /  #122
An interesting article by a Jew about anti-semitism in history and nowadays USA and possible reasons and the future....I tend to agree with him.

Especially that sentence:

"...Xenophobia is a natural, positive attitude as people resist encroachment by aliens; societies strive to preserve their values against the onslaught of outsiders..."

On anti-Semitism in America
samsonblinded.org/blog/on-anti-semitism-in-america.htm
Dupek Stupak 3 | 43  
24 Jul 2008 /  #123
Antisemitism has changed in the last fifty years. The current definition is "Someone whom a Jew-person disagrees with". It has changed meaning, just like the "n" word "n****r". The new meaning holds less value.

As in, "Did you just finish reading the new book about the Israel Lobby and it's influence in American government?"

"Yes I did"

"Then you are antisemite."

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But I did live in Poland for a few years and I had daily dealings with American Jew-persons. None of them reported anything negative.

Though I suppose if you are a USA jew and you are wearing a "Star David" shirt you should perhaps avoid bad neighborhoods at nightttime. Just play up your American-ness. Poles love Americans. Most Poles have some distant Jewish relations in their family tree...so don't fear.

You are safer in Dworzec Centralny than in center of Philadelphia. Worst thing is you could get robbed. In Philly you could be shot.
Wahldo  
24 Jul 2008 /  #124
In Philly you could be shot.

In Philly anybody could be shot.
Dupek Stupak 3 | 43  
25 Jul 2008 /  #125
Philly referee shot during basketball game:

abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/take_action&id=6278698
tomek - | 134  
25 Jul 2008 /  #126
Most Poles have some distant Jewish relations in their family tree

I doubt that. Where is your source? Or do you just assume ...? Nowadays not even every 20th shows jewish characteristics. Thats 5% and not Most of them! Jews lived in Poland often divided from the rest, though there was intermating but not on a large scale as to justify the term most. You know what happened in Poland 60 years ago with People bearing jewish/sinti characteristics? Did they leave for Mars? Comme on, make up some facts butthead ...

But if we go 2000 years ago in our family trees some will find a jewish grandmother there, not me though. I doubt that.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
25 Jul 2008 /  #128
I still do not understand why we even have the word Antisemitism. (hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group)

We do not have a word for hostile twards Muslims or Eskimos etc.
Or at least if we do have a word for it then I am not aware of it and it is not in common usage.

So my question is why do we (in English) have this word?.
I can hypothesise but maybe someone else can explain it to me?
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
26 Jul 2008 /  #129
We do not have a word for hostile twards Muslims or Eskimos etc.

I've heard the word islamophobia a lot of times being used on BBC back in 2005.
osiol 55 | 3,922  
26 Jul 2008 /  #130
Eskimophobia? Antiinuitism?
Dupek Stupak 3 | 43  
26 Jul 2008 /  #131
Political correctness is cultural Marxism.

academia.org/lectures/lind1.html
yehudi 1 | 433  
27 Jul 2008 /  #132
The word "antisemitism" was coined in the late 19th century by jew-haters who wanted to give their ideology a pseudo-scientific aura. It is just another term for Jew hatred, which is a traditional part of European culture.

Someone asked about the words "Goy" and "Goyim". To clear thigns up: "Goyim" is the plural of "Goy". "Goy" means "nation" and Goyim" means "the Nations" referring to the nations of the world, as opposed to the nation of Israel. From the Jewish historical and religious perspective the world is divided into "Israel" (the people) and "the Nations" which is everyone else. Us and Them. It's not a perjoritive word. In many bibilical passages, such as where the Jews are referred to as a holy nation, the hebrew term used there is "Goy Kadosh", which means "a holy nation". In everyday speech the term has come to mean a person from the nations, or a non-Jew.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
27 Jul 2008 /  #133
"the Nations" referring to the nations of the world

The nations just waiting to be ripped off...
southern 75 | 7,096  
27 Jul 2008 /  #134
My preference are the Goys.
Dupek Stupak 3 | 43  
27 Jul 2008 /  #135
Well, I ain't Jewish. And I ain't 'Goy' either. Calling someone 'Goy' is demeaning. "I'm Chosen, you are Goyim. God loves me best, even though I am an athiest."

Everyone prefers their own kind. Except white liberals who prefer blacks & taco benders(as long as they don't live next to them). White teenage girls prefer black criminals. It's an MTV fact!
southern 75 | 7,096  
27 Jul 2008 /  #136
Calling someone 'Goy' is demeaning.

Calling someone Jew is demeaning.Why not Semite-American?
yehudi 1 | 433  
28 Jul 2008 /  #137
Why is calling someone a Jew demeaning? I'm proud to be a Jew. Who wouldn't be? Most of western history and religious culture seems to be wrapped up in our story. We are generally successful in any country that allows us to be. In Israel, we built a wonderful country within a short time against difficult odds and a lot of opposition. We have more Nobel prize winners per capita than any other nation on earth. We're smart. We're funny. And we're good looking! You can call me a Jew any time.

Thank you.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808  
28 Jul 2008 /  #138
The word "antisemitism" was coined in the late 19th century by jew-haters who wanted to give their ideology a pseudo-scientific aura.

Cool, thanks for the reply.
Sounds about right, I mean it amazes me how humans can do such terrible things to other humans. I heard before that soldiers would not see their victims as human and giving a group a "scientific" word and further "proving" their inferiority as in the case of the Nazis would make it easier to treat people as animals, it is messed up.

Why is calling someone a Jew demeaning?

I thought southern was joking, political correctness and all.

Who wouldn't be? Most of western history and religious culture seems to be wrapped up in our story

Are we not part of each other's story?
Del boy 20 | 254  
28 Jul 2008 /  #139
In Israel, we built a wonderful country within a short time against difficult odds and a lot of opposition. We have more Nobel prize winners per capita than any other nation on earth. We're smart. We're funny. And we're good looking! You can call me a Jew any time.

you are a clown that what I can say , You are not too far away from some guys who post some sleazy comments about polish gals. I bet u are not ashkenazi jid :)
Dupek Stupak 3 | 43  
28 Jul 2008 /  #140
I bet u are not ashkenazi jid

Damn right, yer Fenian c _ _ t. ;)
yehudi 1 | 433  
28 Jul 2008 /  #141
I'm a clown? That's an odd comment! I am Ashkenazi. And I have no sleazy comments to make about Polish girls.
MrBubbles 10 | 614  
28 Jul 2008 /  #142
we built a wonderful country

With other people's money at the expense of the native inhabitants
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
28 Jul 2008 /  #143
Talmud... I told you...
yehudi 1 | 433  
28 Jul 2008 /  #144
Are we not part of each other's story?

I suppose we are. But what I mean is that all of western civilization is based in part on the Bible, which is the story of the people of israel. Half the world has Hebrew names, like David Samuel, John, Abe, Jake, Jonathan, Matthew, Saul, Joshua, Miriam, Rachel, Sarah, etc. Most of the world works in a 7 day weekly cycle, which is rooted in the Biblical sabbath. Through religion and through the fact of the Jewish dispersion, we are part of almost every culture. It makes me proud. The Greeks and the Italians (Romans?) by the way, can also claim an influence on most of western civilization. They should also be proud.
southern 75 | 7,096  
28 Jul 2008 /  #145
The Greeks

There was always conflict between greek civilization and jewish culture.
yehudi 1 | 433  
28 Jul 2008 /  #146
Talmud... I told you...

Talmud? What does that have to do with anything I've said? Why don't you try to disprove what I've said instead of throwing around words you don't even understand.

at the expense of the native inhabitants

We are the native inhabitants. Look it up in your Bible.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
28 Jul 2008 /  #147
What does that have to do with anything I've said?

Almost everything.
MrBubbles 10 | 614  
28 Jul 2008 /  #148
We are the native inhabitants. Look it up in your Bible.

What was Israel called before 1947?
yehudi 1 | 433  
28 Jul 2008 /  #149
There was always conflict between greek civilization and jewish culture.

Not always. The conflict was mainly during the hellenistic period, when the seleucids tried to force their culture down our throats (see Maccabees in your bible), but during the middle ages there was a big flourishing of Greek philosophy, mostly Aristotle, among Jews and Muslims. Most of the Arabic works on Aristotle that were written during the middle ages were translated by Jews into Latin and made their way into the Christian world. And even if my religion is opposed to what ancient greek culture stood for, we have a respect for their wisdom. Anyway, the modern greeks worship a Jew. So I guess you could say we won.

What was Israel called before 1947?

Before it was ever called Palestine, it was called Israel. What was Jesus, an Arab?
MrBubbles 10 | 614  
28 Jul 2008 /  #150
Before it was ever called Palestine, it was called Israel.

Actually it probably wasn't. 4000 years ago the area was occupied by Canaanites and other tries. The Jewish forces invaded an occupied the area towards the end of the millennium. The Romans invaded later and exiled the Jewish population. Since then there have been a number of invasions by Christians, Persians, Mongols, Ottomans and many more. For the past 2000 years, the area has been occupied by all sorts.

Why do you say this is Jewish land?

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