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TheOther   
13 Aug 2009
USA, Canada / Why Americans think that nobody likes them? [185]

yeah and of course such great leaders as Saddam Hussein

Of course, they lie. But you don't want to compare some weirdo dictator to GWB, Cheney and Rumsfeld, do you (cough, cough)? <g>

You can pick onthe west all you like but i see nothing better

Why would I pick on the west? I'm currently living on the west coast of the USA and I'm really loving it here. But that doesn't mean that I cannot criticize my host country on occasions.
TheOther   
13 Aug 2009
USA, Canada / Why Americans think that nobody likes them? [185]

as for WMD, lets be honest, of course there were none

I hate it when politicians openly lie to me. And look at the mess now - somewhat, Old Europe must have been right in the first place. You know, in my daughter's school district they have to lay off over 50 teachers - lack of funding they say. And then the feds spend $1 billion a month in that god-forsaken country for nothing, instead of investing that cash at home. Yes, Saddam was removed and that was a good thing. But what else has been achieved in all those years?

Hivemind, manipulative statement

That's what Republicans say... ;-)
TheOther   
13 Aug 2009
USA, Canada / Why Americans think that nobody likes them? [185]

but don't you dare to defend yourself, everyone is turning against you

Defended yourself against Iraq and its (non-existent) WMD? Very much debatable... :)

When the US went into Afghanistan to fight the Taliban and get Bin Laden, most nations were behind you. But when Bush and Cheney decided to invade Iraq and play the "Old Europe" and "If you are not for us, you're against us" card, support withered for a reason. Not the Americans were disliked abroad, but the arrogant US government of that time.
TheOther   
12 Aug 2009
USA, Canada / Why Americans think that nobody likes them? [185]

It was kind of hard to swallow after 9/11 a lot of Europeans singing "good, they deserved it"...

Exactly the opposite: right after 9/11 the USA had the sympathy of most Europeans and much of the rest of the world. The negative perception came when the Bushies started the war in Iraq.
TheOther   
12 Aug 2009
USA, Canada / Why Americans think that nobody likes them? [185]

self-glorification culture

Well, that's how quite a few on PF would characterize Poland... ;-)

But you're right, it is confusing sometimes how many Americans see their nation as "God's own country" and how many are completely ignorant about what's going on in the rest of the world.
TheOther   
11 Aug 2009
News / French and Poles [146]

However, they segregate themselves to such a degree

But isn't that a problem in itself? I mean, look at what happened in France last year, or think about the huge Turkish gettho Kreuzberg in Berlin. Just to name a few. What makes me feel uncomfortable is that first and second generation muslims seem to integrate quite well, whereas third and fourth generation kids increasingly separate themselves from society and become radicalized. Or is this just a false impression I have?
TheOther   
11 Aug 2009
News / French and Poles [146]

...does not equate to a valid reason for being so paranoid.

As a side note:
I have quite a few friends all over Europe who traveled for a year or longer around the globe when they were younger. These people were open-minded by default, so to say, but even them are turning into strong sceptics now when it comes to Muslims in their home countries. Makes me wonder.
TheOther   
11 Aug 2009
History / Who lost WWII (besides Poland)? [42]

That wasn't up to Russians if Hitler's gonna attack them or not. And you state it like it was.

That's not what I said. You were questioning my statement "The USSR was the one which brought Nazi Germany down to its knees militarily" and implying that it could as well have been the western allies who brought down the Germans. The latter is wrong in my eyes, simply because the western allies alone were not strong enough to fight the German military machine. D-Day was only possible because Hitler attacked the USSR and opened a second front in the east.
TheOther   
11 Aug 2009
History / Who lost WWII (besides Poland)? [42]

...it was a matter of common sense

I'm afraid, that's also correct. Simple and cold blooded calculation: better the Russians get slaughtered than us.
TheOther   
11 Aug 2009
History / Who lost WWII (besides Poland)? [42]

...but remember eastern Europe didn't want the Soviet Union.

They had no choice. IMHO, the western allies were not strong enough militarily to be faster than the Soviets in their advance.

That's a relative thing, as many opinions as there are people here.

Without Hitler attacking the USSR there would have been no D-Day; at least not in 1944.

Well I wonder why did they vote for Russia in the...

Ask yourself why the Americans sold the Russians almost half of the later GDR just to get a little piece of Berlin.
TheOther   
11 Aug 2009
History / Who lost WWII (besides Poland)? [42]

What would've been the better choice: 45 years of German occupation or of Russian?

The USSR was the one which brought Nazi Germany down to its knees militarily, not the USA and UK. While the latter two were busy dropping bombs on civilians from the safety of their airplanes, Russian soldiers got killed by the millions. D-Day wouldn't have been possible without the sacrifice of those Russian soldiers. A fact that certain western politicians love to forget when they celebrate themselves as the "liberators of Europe".

That Stalin had other plans with the countries his troops occupied - well, some of his allies knew that beforehand, I guess.

To answer the original question: the whole world lost.
TheOther   
11 Aug 2009
History / Poland and Lithuania [161]

State schools are the tools of brainwashing and propaganda especially in the chauvinistic and corrupted state such as Lithuania

What about Polish state schools? You really believe they tell you the truth and nothing but the truth?
TheOther   
6 Aug 2009
News / Rydzyk gets away with racism yet again [198]

joepilsudski

So, because there are other parts of the world where racism abounds it is acceptable to have racism in Poland?
TheOther   
1 Aug 2009
Australia / "A team will respond to any anti-Polish comments or acts." [16]

...are the masters of whining

I was actually talking about the fact that the state of Israel and Jewish organizations were very successful after WW2 to build a powerful lobbyist network that took (takes) care of their political agenda. The posting on the web site looks to me as if Poland and Polish organizations are trying to copy the Israeli/Jewish approach. Poland must at least support the ideas of the Polish Community Council of Australia and New Zealand. Otherwise the article wouldn't have been published on an official web site like the one of the Polish embassy in Australia.

Wow, nothing like freedom of speech

But don't say anything negative about Poland as long as you are in Downunder. They might come and get you... ;-)
TheOther   
1 Aug 2009
Australia / "A team will respond to any anti-Polish comments or acts." [16]

kinda sorta like ADL?

Funny that you mention it. First thing that crossed my mind when I read the announcement on the Polish embassy's web site was 'Is this going to be the Polish version of the World Jewish Congress?' Kind of irritating, IMHO.
TheOther   
31 Jul 2009
Australia / "A team will respond to any anti-Polish comments or acts." [16]

Let's have the 'Whinging Pole' instead of the 'Whinging Pom' for a change, or what? <g>

Quote:

"...protecting the good name of Poland and Poles. Following the proposal of Mr E.Bajkowski from Canberra, it was decided to create a team with representatives all over the country, who will respond to any anti-Polish comments or acts."
TheOther   
27 Jul 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish view on Ireland. [32]

And they do so in tens of hundreds of thousands.

You mean millions? <vbg>
TheOther   
27 Jul 2009
News / Polish-American Edward Moskal [6]

I would suggest some involvement in an organization such as PAC

Yet another lobbyist group in D.C. buying American politicians. Aren't there already enough of those leeches active in Washington?
TheOther   
25 Jul 2009
News / Poland among the greatest enemies of Russia [112]

the extent to which it goes in Russia is terryfying

I've never been to Russia, so I can't tell. It's kind of hard to believe though that the majority over there is still "indoctrinated" after 20 years. Are you sure it's not just a few die-hards who cannot get over the fall of the USSR?
TheOther   
25 Jul 2009
News / POLAND'S POPULATION IS SHRINKING... [62]

Forget about global warming and all the other problems - the exploding population growth and demand for resources will kill Earth (and us all). So, it might be unfavourable for Poland, Germany and many other nations with declining populations, but for the planet it's a good development. We have to start somewhere.
TheOther   
24 Jul 2009
News / New York Post : "Polish" Death Camps and more [278]

But I'm not asking you to follow my 'argumentation'

Honestly, if you don't want a response from me or simply refuse to understand what I was saying, what sense does it make to put any more effort into this thread?

What a disappointing...

thread.

You know, if one cannot voice a controversial (but valid) opinion without being called a Nazi for example, then give me one reason why I should hold back and refrain from insulting those nuts.

Please mate - don't join the lunatic fringe of people who come on this forum bashing Poland its people.

That has never been my intention and will never be. Otherwise I would've stayed a guest instead of becoming a member of PF.

Anyway, I will stay away from this thread now. If you're interested, follow the link that I posted in #131. You will see that there are quite a few (Polish) people out there who are actually willing to seriously deal with their past or talk about it, respectively.

Cheers, mate.